Rayray

The problem is he is not from the US. his ping I assume is around 200-300 as he is from PH. And as far as I know, 6 SB's are pretty much impossible even with good ping. you probably hit 4-5 which is doable on low ping. @Victoria we don't have top 5 sb sinx because every sb sinx that comes out uses buffs. If one sb sinx actually laddered and win it without feeding, then he might be our best sb sinx.

I am pretty sure it was a guy :D I don't really mind dying in for_fild as well, it's just that people get annoyed by it sometimes. And I think he is nice to you because you use a prof :D OH and the ONLY reason why he can kill people in for_fild is because of him getting almost every buff he could get. Even if I challenge him to a fight in the PvP room, I am pretty sure he will chicken out of it. In fact, if opening multiple clients isn't allowed here, I doubt if we would be talking about him. There was nothing clever about it. I am a little skeptical about his spam as he killed my alternate paladin that basically have 650k hp almost instantly. and even with buffs, 3sbs shouldnt be able to kill my paladin. I don't really mind him. Because as far as I know, people think of me as one of the best biochemists around, and people will only think of him as the sb sinx that buffs himself and/or do not have a legit spam.

Been here for so long, I gotta tell you guys, economy is going stable right now. You don't see TG and other basic MVP cards besides kiel and tgk being sold at 100 tokens each right? I was able to live through the worst economy we had, where thanatos costs 10k, emps costs 2k(green, purple,orange) 4k blue emp, mvp cards at 100+ tokens each. Lowering thana rate. I disagree for a few reasons. one is it is already low. The reason Thana is going 2.5k nowadays is not because there are tons of thana card around, it is because fewer classes NEED thana, hence the card is not being bought. 2nd reason is if we lower the rate now, price will go up, which will not help newbies but only help those rich enough that has a few thanas they do not need. 3rd is once you get a thana card, you wouldn't need another one(unless you are a champ). you probably would just decard it if you need it for another character, which makes thana less desirable for people who has it making thana costs less because it is not being bought. Again, the reason Thana becoming cheap is not because of a sudden influx in supply, it is just that people do not really need thana. We got crit sinx, int biochemists, FAS snipers, Spiral Pierce LKs, Full bolter profs, and Paladins that populate the server that does not need thana to be effective. Add the fact that we have skoll which makes thana useless most of the time. Lowering the rate of thana makes no sense at all.

I still vote for Airi. I saw her trash Dragon's Fury, so if he was considered the best, then I vote for Airi.

I gotta be honest with you. I never had trouble switching mainhand weapon without using katars. But then again, I can equip using double click on the inventory window so yeah people might use that tip of yours. Switching is the only thing you have to learn in dagger sinx. Because let us be honest, it is a point and click class. If you can't switch in the middle of a battle without using hotkeys, you shouldn't play the class at all.

On that list, only number 2 seems to get most hate because of the alleged illegal spam of SB. Others seem to be enemies you made yourself because of your constant randoming. Jwan dar doesn't random much, he doesn't hit me on my bio, although he hits me on gunsling because he didn't know it was me. :D I am pretty sure Jeff would make this list LOL

Champs only jobs in woe is to move around, kill people or ecall if they can. That's it. So I don't think it is necessary to remove one of them. Traps are fairly easy to counter, I myself let me get trapped since I do not need to be in the emp anyway. Bomb is a nice way to slow people, there are tons of things to slow people up, even kill them. Wizards can spam meteor to stagger people, gunslingers and grandcross pally can team up to protect an entrance way, Acolyte class's decrease agi, and many more among others. Combine it with traps and we got one hell of a good defense.

There are two "Ray"s. One is me, the other is Switch. :p That is why I tell people that if they see both of us, just call me rayray so I would know, as that is the nickname given to me by Lena and commonly used by Shreya and Jayjay(Amicable).

I don't really think Creator is the class you are looking for, as I am thinking of gunslinger to be the easiest to gear up and go pvp at the fastest time possible. Sure, Acid Bomb will kill targets ONLY if you break their armor or they are not wearing GR. But sure, if you plan on going creator, then here. http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=23142 Creator isn't so cheap though. Just look for me and I will teach you if you really want biochemist.

Tons of people uses daggers to break as far as I know, especially if they had thana. That's the reason why forsaken elite sinx daggers were still expensive as well. Just replace the skel workers with breaker cards like desert wolf and use an armor with gloom, use cursed water and you are probably good to go.

You just really have to find what setup you are comfortable with on biochem: fkeys- will have my offensive skills and seeds. qwe or 2nd skill bar slot- will have my homunculus skills, acid terror and bomb, and other random stuff asd or 3rd skill bar slot- Gears. I usually go Shields first as I switch them alot, then cloak, then armor, boots and lastly headgear that has sight lvl 1. on other characters, my gears are on the qwe though. I am weird, i really have different bm setup for every character i have.

This is a really nice guide for new champs. Good Job. :)

I will make this guide short and sweet. I was not using dagger sinx for a long time but I decided to use it again in the past weeks. It may not be as strong, burst damage wise, as an SB sinx, not as high damaging as crit sinx, but at least It has more survivability than either two. So let's get to it. GEARS I will not advice people that uses ND gear to try dagger sinx. It needs tons of items to be effective as you will do a lot of switching around. So, this guide is done thinking you are using at least king set(vote or donate, it doesn't matter), an fdagger(2-3 of them for good measure), loki's blade OR legendary sinx blade, your aura should also be at least original zodiac. Upper: Should have 2x kiel. WIth the delays in place, it just isn't worth it to use seyren windsor on helm Having a drooping valk is also good. mid- aura should have fsoldier or maya p lower- whatever card you didn't use in mid. I suggest having scarf here or better yet, Balloon or Avian wing or Eidelic. Right hand- always use dagger on right hand. You should have two ideally but if you are not rich enough, you can skip the thana dagger. Cards should be- Incant, phree, x2 TG, and the other right hand dagger should have - thana phree tg tg Left hand weapons- Loki's blade/legendary blade is your extra damage weapon, so you put x2tg and x2 skelworker in it. Having strip cards in an extra dagger helps a ton against other sinx's as most of them are crit and you will strip them fast enough even with 150 total dex. cards I mainly use are metaling, whitesmith card(even if it's chance is lowered), valk randgris(skip this if you have drooping valk), dragoon warlord, lord of death card, thanatos maero, stormy knight. Be creative. Shield- 3 shields, usakoring, gtb, maya Armor- tons of armor, but mainly gr tao, gr rsx, tao tao, OL OL, evil druid tao, tao puppetring, angeling tao cloak- have at least 2 with 2x skolls and 2x raydrics. noxious, devilings are alternative cloaks but aren't that much needed boots- 2x fbh, fbh dwiz, dwiz amon ra acc- this is where it depends on your build. Going higher damage, get loki's seals. Going balanced? get mix a belts(I do not know if there is a mix a belt with a slot, if there is, get that.). Cards to put are whichever combination of this. Owl Baron, Horong, Errende Ebecee, Wikebine tres, str runes, vit runes, also keep a blue ifrit ring in hand STATS I will post a few stat builds that I use, feel free to make changes. High STR- use loki's seals STR- around 280 base, or until you make your attack in the stat window more than 2k(2 weapons). make str divisible by 10 agi- 195 aspd(add dex first) vit- put the rest here dex- total 150 luk-1 Balanced- use mix a STR- around 260 base or until your attack in the stat window is 1.8k(2 weapons). same, make str divisible by 10 agi- 195 aspd(add dex first) vit- put rest here dex- total 150 luk-1 High Vit-mix a or vit belts STR- around 220-240 base or until your attack in the stat window is 1.4k- 1.6k.(2 weapons) str divisible by 10 agi- 195 aspd vit-put rest here dex- total 150 luk-1 STRATEGY 1. Rule 1 of dagger play is learn battlemode. Or else you will have a hard time. 2nd is KEEP SWITCHING. Throw them off their ygg rhythm by going one hand damage> backslide> cloak. hit them with 2 hand for 2-3 seconds> backslide> cloak> one hand. Repeat until you throw them off. Making them guess on that will make them spam faster on their seeds. 2. You know what makes it fun fighting crit sinx? THEY CANT UN CLOAK YOU. they have no hit whatsoever, they can only wait for you to attack. While you can go cloak>meteor assault> cloak to reveal them. (that is why kiels are needed) 3. Crit sinx also are easily stripped. 4. Abuse double attack. It doesnt really show when fighting players but it works. crit sinx HAS to go dual on you(your hp should be high enough that they need to). dont go dual by then. keep using one hand dagger and shield and switch to OL armor. Chances are, they die instantly since anyone not using shield will get hit by around 16k attack from a dagger(x2 that for double attack) add the reflect and if you are spamming envenom as well. 5. You are less prone to strip, but still is a good idea to go fcp first 6. Some people say that you need to get a little more agi so that if you get hit by decrease agi ,your aspd won't go down. If someone told you that, and he is using a sinx, he don't know what he is talking about. If you get decreased agi and need aspd, drink poison bottle and should give you back your aspd. 7. Sand attack reveals people using the hide skill, meteor assault reveals the ones using cloak skill. 8. have more than one converter 9. never go dual against someone you know have a high hp and high burst damage. 10. Abuse your 8 weapon card slots. not everything is about damage. he has too much hp? go use dagger+ edge + kyrie shoe. he doesn't have skolls? use thanatos card or ice pick. 11. Fighting against an SB sinx. SB sinx should deal around 12k each sonic blow(lowest) up to 16k unless they go full buffs. You should fully know that you cannot go dual weapons on them or you die. Best way is use horong card for sight, use speed potions to chase him, and just attack with one dagger while spamming on seeds(wearing tao OL at this point OR DUAL TAO.). At this point, only 2 things can happen. 1. He dies from the burst of dagger double attack. 2. You die from the seemingly instant spams of tons of sonic blow. Now if number 2 happened, I gotta say that something might be wrong with your spamming of seeds(might be a little slow) or it is just that the SB SinX MAGICALLY HAPPENS TO BE ABLE TO SPAM 4 or 5 SB, SO FAST THAT YOU CANT OUT YGG IT EVEN WITH 400k+ HP. Take a hint. Most SB sinx cant even half my 380k hp build when i spam seeds. 12. Going Full Buffs is the gayest thing ever. Don't follow them. 13. Backslide and Cloak is there on your skill list to be used. Do not be afraid to use it. I fought people that called me tons of stuff when I use cloaking(they are crit sinx). Let them rage. 14. Use Sand attack on champs that spam Root(will be awesome if you are using thana dagger). 15. my default shoes are FBH DWIZ. I have always used this ever since I was part of Psychosamuraiz guild, it was the way Date and Inamoto and Supre Onvi taught me. Until now, it is still the best balanced shoe card combo for me. as I said, not everything is on damage. This guide is incomplete. I just wanted to put my draft here since some people asked. This guide will be changed from time to time. CREDITS 1. Date, Inamoto, Supre Onvi of Psychosamuraiz. 2. Epic(Ken) for the awesome tips, being a good friend and a great guild master. I still hope to fight you in one more LMS. 3. Rei, Amanz, Skull, Shreya, Kaito, Hansen, Lena, and the past members of Psychosamuraiz and Tears of Blood for letting me test on them. 4. To the countless dagger, sb and crit sinx I fought back in 2008-2010.

you can't call that a duel since the pally will not be able to damage the biochemist in any other way.

0 def emperium means that no matter what weapon you use, you will do damage, it now became a fight on who has the better card set. In all honesty, a dual dagger breaker that uses basic cards for breaking or a stalker that copied raging trifecta could break the emp more easily than crit sinx breakers now.

It would, but not enough to kill me. if he goes reflect on armor, ill just AD him and he will receive tons of damage.

Isnt biochemist the anti paladin? O_O even with fcp, ill probably hit him high enough

Someone basically used this guide the moment he saw me. And I was testing hybrid biochemist earlier. Needless to say, my thana mammonite hits him so hard he died instantly. Good job.

People want PK back in tur_dun because they get KOSed in for_fild? this is the most contradicting response I read. If you don't want to get PKed then don't go to a PK enabled map. Why go to tur_dun and want PK there if you are just gonna sit around and talk to people? It just doesn't make real sense. We all know that people want PK enabled in tur_dun because so many newbies go in there that you guys can easily kill. Nothing wrong with that, it is a PK server, I don't care if you kill people, but at least give them a chance to get geared first.

At the moment, for some reason, attack skills don't work from any of the homunculus i tried, even if I used a homun AI, it still doesn't let it use any skills. I feel your pain as well,

I've been in 5 automated LMS that no one won because a sinx kept using backslide end to end. they will rage about that, and we can enable that since LMS map is small enough to corner the ninja,

Also, FAS only works with cards that actually make the crit rate in your stat window 100. so if you use vanberks, you have to attack first to get it to work then hit with fas, and as they said, you need kiels for fas.

^ the problem is in the GM hosted LMS, running is prohibited, anyone doing so can be disqualified by the Game Master. Last Man Standing is the name of the event, not Last Man Running. It kinda defeats the purpose of trying to win the LMS event when the enemy has no intention of winning and just runs(doesn't even try to fight back).