Rayray

That was the original intention of this guide. To help newbies. Everyone who knew me since 2007 know that I help newbies. I helped them ever since my old guild PsychoSamuraiz help me as a newbie. Everyone that was part of my guild Tears of Blood knew that. That's just the way it is. If this guide helped you, it was my pleasure. The reason that this guide was a full guide and not just a guide where people put up gear, cards and stats is because I wanted the community to stop being elitist. The older guys should help the newer ones. And the newer ones should stop begging. New guys, farm, quest,vote and gear yourself up, the veterans do not have an obligation to gear you up just because we are here first. Most of us help people that help themselves :)

no it wouldn't work, sorry. :(

in pvp room the best way is to strip them using strip armor card(wikebine tres) and use a weapon with stormy knight in it(if you cant turn effects on) so that when you see them freeze, you know they dont have armor. spamming bolts is also an option if your hp is around 280k. chances are, if you spam seeds with bolts, you will kill him if he uses maya because with gr rsx his hp is low, using maya shield increases the damage of bolts since he dont have usakoring. just keep in mind that only do it if your hp is above 280k

I should start using my gunsling so i can be added here

http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22464 already suggested and accepted bro.

Damnit shane, when did I ever bully anyone of you? You bully me more than I bully you :p.

That's the reason they became OP now, because of all the new weapons and stuff. Way back when we only had elites, they are decent. Now it became a little too much(add the rings in the equation). As I said, i never agreed on a full scale nerfing, just at least not make spiral pierce damage that much and it will be fine honestly. On clowns being the most OP class, This, i can agree to some extent. Clowns are by far, along with LK imo, the only class that could fight any class because of their skill set. However, they do not have the same HP with LK, and can carry a limited number of seeds, cannot spam endlessly using AV while LKs can on spiral pierce. The only reason Clown seem OP is because of the scary tarot coma and the fact that you can't just GTB outright to it.

Lowest SP? how in the hell is that a disadvantage? Lowest sp, i give that to gunslinger, one cast of desperado costs around 55 sp if i am not mistaken.

^ I disagree on bombin there, he stays in PvP room. You don't expect him to just chill in there if he is laddering. Giap, i also disagree since, well he hits everyone even me if he wanted. He just really random.

Hmm, if your definition of bullies are : 1. people who only hit ungeared newbies and then trashtalks 2. people who needs feeding in pvp room 3. people who run away/warp if a good player fights them then yeah, I will include you on that list then.

I hit them before they hit me normally, and mostly, people will ask this only in for_fild01 if possible.

Funny, that doesn't happen to me since my wizard default GTB when farming(since i know everyone is using wizard when farming).

LK is widely known as the most OP class in the game. High HP, High DPS and the ability to counter almost every class in the game. Add the Parry skill they have,oh and they can use shield with it. Giving spiral pierce a huge delay,in my opinion, will kill the class entirely. The sad thing is, Spiral Pierce is as close to acid bomb in terms of the flinching, however, acid bomb's damage is easier to reduce, add the fact that bios don't have tons of HP. Pneuma is useless, using RSX is suicidal. Most classes chance to kill an LK is to coma, which doesn't work as good as it does against the others, since frankly if an LK gtb and you hit him with your skill, his HP is so high he won't die instantly unlike other classes. If we reduce the range of spiral pierce, it becomes a melee skill correct? if it does, that means the noxious card that most people use for LK will be nulled, BUT it gives chance for other classes to dispel the LK. (Valk Randgris card on weapon + any form of reflect). Now, considering Spiral's speed, valk randgris would go off always, making the LK using tons of converters just in one fight. Way disadvantageous i guess. RSX card against an LK is stupid really. Even if I go reflect to try and kill the LK, the only way it would work is if I was using Paladin. Only weakness of LK now is Full Strip, BUT THEN AGAIN IT IS EASY TO GET FCP. So virtually no weakness. It is hard to balance out the LK class. That one handed sword made him OP more. Spiral Pierce spam rate is ridiculous. Their HP is ridiculous. We have a ton of LK that would shut this suggestion. I can go on and on. I can suggest a few fix though 1. Reduce the range of cell of Spiral pierce but still classify it as a Range Attack. 2. Reduce the buttload of damage that Spiral Pierce do 3. Reduce the effect of some cards for LK (Hey, we nerfed WS card and Valk Randgris for SinX, why not do something of the same sort for LKs? like making TG just give 15% damage)

I love it when the people that disagrees say that it might hurt the farmers O_O He said that warp should be disable if HIT BY A PLAYER, not mobs, I don't really see this hindering farmers unless you farm in for_fild01 Ok, this cannot be implemented, even if I like the idea. The reason is there are tons of players that warp out of a fight compared to the ones that finish the fight even with a losing effort. Hence, the people that would want this suggestion would get outnumbered by the people that would disagree since they need the warp. Even if we only implement this in for_fild01, people wouldn't agree on it. If you stayed in for_fild01 for long periods of time, chances are you will meet 7 warpers out of 10 players. As I said before in the other thread that wants this, people who disagreed on being unable to warp after getting hit or hitting other players are the ones that uses and abuses the warp command to run away. And it's not like we can force them to go to the PvP room. No warper would put themselves in a position where they cannot warp :p So in conclusion, this suggestion will never gain the support of most in the community because around 70% of them abuses the warp command. But for the heck of it, and since I get annoyed by it as well. +1

I'm not putting GOLLS in there sadly, he is good though, but he has the habit of getting his champ when his GS can't kill someone and vice versa. In short, i havent seen him fight that long. I just can't put my finger on the one that was a really good gunsling sorry. I only have 2 on my list and i forgot their names.

I myself do not consider myself the best creator around. Sure I was good, but I spend less time than others and I rarely go PvP as serious as Bombin is(I remember just going in pvp room with 50 seeds just for the heck of it.). Almost all the stuff I say, I already taught it to the Bios I talk to including Bombin, so it isn't really a trade secret :) Amelia Kaori(Nas) do deserve a place here, but he rarely uses the bio for pvp. I do agree on Bombin here where having allies inside the pvp room sometimes hinders you laddering. I never won first place in pvp room as a bio as i don't have that much time to spend on it.

LOL,well, I played sinx for the first half of my years here, and i was never a breaker as a sinx. I was a PvP sinx, and I practically hit everyone in anthell01(that was the pvp hang out place when i played sinx). That taught me tons of things, including the weaknesses of melee classes. I never tried sniper and champ, but those two gave me a hard time as a sinx, so when i went to biochemist, I made sure that every class there is, i have some sort of defense. No need to get super offensive, you need something to be able to fight every class, even if you can't beat them. You guys need to pvp, don't care what others say about randoming being annoying. annoy them. Kill everyone, not just the ungeared if you are just starting. That way you will know what is the weakness of your class, and put some kind of fix for it (cards and skills). I'll give another example. RSX armor screws bios, so i have one acc that has strip armor. knowing pvp room dispells fcp, i know that if i cant break their armor, they are using rsx(add the fact that if my storm gust dont push them around). in fact, i normally cart revo them first, if they dont get pushed back, i switch to strip armor and strip away their armor and weapon using metalling card too. and once they get frozen by SG , i know they dont have armor. i use this strategy against SN too, i know for a fact that they have low vit and 500k hp with two tao, even if i spam i cant kill that, so ill remove the armor then spam. There are tons of things i can't say outright since i will be giving all the stuff i use. but frankly they are not secret combo cards, most of the stuff I use are pretty basic. (HINT: some of it are custom cards :p).

I am part of Endeavor and I see quite differently. Sure, Endeavor takes WoE seriously, but i haven't seen us ignore the new guys that we had. Although i kinda see some of their point since they might have asked us in guildchat when we were all AFK. To those who thinks we are snobs: WE. AFK. A. LOT. that's about it.

the only sinx type that I have trouble with is SB sinx. Dagger sinx is a rare kind and kinda needs pretty expensive stuff. So imma say SB sinx if you wanna pvp and kill fast. Crit sinx kinda gets screwed by dispel so easily.

I think I voted rice picker on this thread, but I too lazy to check :D

It all starts the same, every class except the popular ones(SinX,Champs, Sniper) went through that phase where everyone kills you. About 6 months ago when I came back and decided to main Biochemist, there are only 2 of us that uses it extensively, me and enrique(Rusty Trombone). Now look, because of what I did back then, there are a few more Biochems around. If you like wizard, go use it and just use it. eventually you will know how to fight any class there is.

My sniper standards are pretty high, as I fought snipers in the old days that are really, really good despite having 2 handed bows(iHunt and Kuoch) All snipers now are the same. All they do is just spam FAS/DS until someone dies. so if we make a top 5 list, any sniper you see with identical gear can be put in it. no one in pvp uses traps anymore.

you need tons of gear to pvp as a wizard, but it isn't impossible. Just find the class you are most comfortable with :D