Stalker Bless(dex) need some slight buff

[Maiimaii]

2 hours ago, p3wp3w said:

idk why do you keep pushing your int build. read again the topic name.

+1

[Maiimaii]

17 hours ago, niemono89 said:

Another thingy about skills copier of stalker, I think u all should knew the fact *it shouldn't be as strong as the original classes*

"coz its versatile right?" :3

 

Omgggg, im asking for da damage or after cast delay im not asking for damage overall boost, you dont even know what the old stalker is. People just complain too much and then got nerf'd and leave it like that. Ex gs has good spam of desperado before but then people complain about lag in woe in the end it got nerfd but "Boost the damage instead" , hope you have idea what im trying to suggest now?

they nerfd stalker and just it leave like that.  Thats why its so dead . I made this suggestion so that stalker lovers would also can play stalker as their main again.

 

[SweetTooth]

6 hours ago, Maiimaii said:

Omgggg, im asking for da damage or after cast delay im not asking for damage overall boost, you dont even know what the old stalker is. People just complain too much and then got nerf'd and leave it like that. Ex gs has good spam of desperado before but then people complain about lag in woe in the end it got nerfd but "Boost the damage instead" , hope you have idea what im trying to suggest now?

they nerfd stalker and just it leave like that.  Thats why its so dead . I made this suggestion so that stalker lovers would also can play stalker as their main again.

 

lets ask her... have she ever seen a decent stalker dex build or either both bless and curse that can go toe to toe to other class without having any problem??? no. seriously. Let us Repeat

"STALKER IS DEAD" 

people use stalker this days just to troll people with no fcp. they cant even fight decently today.

you got dispell by VR or Prof and accidentally get a skill that you dont need and replace the important skill you are holding. we can say default DS stalker. look at the dmg. DS and flip tatami yes......... dispell ...... goodbye to your tatami. As a experience RO player .. i seen stalker on other server that can go toe to toe with other class. stalker should also benefit from team fight like woe. stalker this days is used just to ecall.

 

fyi (niemon and other people). DS dmg Should be increase. who said that ds came from sniper or just copy versatile class? even clown has ds. stalker didnt copy ds its their main skill unlike magical stalker that only copy magic skill and doesnt have main magical skill. stalker magic is bad cause 1 dispell their main source of dmg will be gone.

Edited November 21, 2016 by SweetTooth

[Yatogami]

3 hours ago, SweetTooth said:

lets ask her... have she ever seen a decent stalker dex build or either both bless and curse that can go toe to toe to other class without having any problem??? no. seriously. Let us Repeat

"STALKER IS DEAD" 

people use stalker this days just to troll people with no fcp. they cant even fight decently today.

you got dispell by VR or Prof and accidentally get a skill that you dont need and replace the important skill you are holding. we can say default DS stalker. look at the dmg. DS and flip tatami yes......... dispell ...... goodbye to your tatami. As a experience RO player .. i seen stalker on other server that can go toe to toe with other class. stalker should also benefit from team fight like woe. stalker this days is used just to ecall.

 

fyi (niemon and other people). DS dmg Should be increase. who said that ds came from sniper or just copy versatile class? even clown has ds. stalker didnt copy ds its their main skill unlike magical stalker that only copy magic skill and doesnt have main magical skill. stalker magic is bad cause 1 dispell their main source of dmg will be gone.

Hmm just putting this out there. I totally agree with boosting the DS/Dex bonus for stalker, but it being a versatile class by means of copying skills that can "assist" in battle. Like Flip tatami, Acid Bomb, Martyr's Reckoning, FAS, or even charge attack. DS should be the main killing skill of a dex stalker and it should be a means to be able to kill.

As for magic stalkers, its only good as a support killer in team fights. you force your opponents to go GTB so physical attacks hurt more. But thats it. Other than grand cross (which is good sometimes), It can copy a really good selection of magic skills. but as @SweetTooth said here, once they're on GTB, and FCP, or get dispelled, you cant do anything but die. It only has its perks in team fights.

[SweetTooth]

Just now, Yatogami said:

Hmm just putting this out there. I totally agree with boosting the DS/Dex bonus for stalker, but it being a versatile class by means of copying skills that can "assist" in battle. Like Flip tatami, Acid Bomb, Martyr's Reckoning, FAS, or even charge attack. DS should be the main killing skill of a dex stalker and it should be a means to be able to kill.

As for magic stalkers, its only good as a support killer in team fights. you force your opponents to go GTB so physical attacks hurt more. But thats it. Other than grand cross (which is good sometimes), It can copy a really good selection of magic skills. but as @SweetTooth said here, once they're on GTB, and FCP, or get dispelled, you cant do anything but die. It only has its perks in team fights.

ya you said it. if they are against increasing the dmg of other skill like martyr, shield chain and etc. im okay with it. but, we are talking about DS here the Main skill of Stalker. it should be increased. its one of the only offensive skill and fundamental of stalker that makes it one of the unique character. yah, stalker is a versatile class if we are talking about or the main idea is copying other skill. but, DS is an important part of the stalker. if its damage too low, how can it suppose to survive. without DS its like a Bow without an arrow. you know what i mean. HAHAHAHAH

Edited November 21, 2016 by SweetTooth

[niemono89]

If u all still think that stalker's ds were still lacking(compared to originals archer's ds)

I'm still have some good idea:

1. make a new 'quest' legendary arrow set specially for stalkers dex type(re-adjust it btw :3)

2. make new acces* runes just for stalker dex type :3

Edited November 21, 2016 by niemono89

[p3wp3w]

There she goes again with her BRILLIANT Marketing Plan

[Yatogami]

6 hours ago, niemono89 said:

If u all still think that stalker's ds were still lacking(compared to originals archer's ds)

I'm still have some good idea:

1. make a new 'quest' legendary arrow set specially for stalkers dex type(re-adjust it btw :3)

2. make new acces* runes just for stalker dex type :3

Wait wait wait wait... WHY?!

1. Why make another arrow set for just stalkers?

2. We already have pouring cards and Dex Runes

Its not easy to just implement the ideas you want. You're just gonna give more work to Genesis and Ares in coding. It would be easier if they would just change the dex value in the code instead of making a whole new code for new items. You also need to consider the work load of the GMs who does the updates for us.

7 hours ago, SweetTooth said:

ya you said it. if they are against increasing the dmg of other skill like martyr, shield chain and etc. im okay with it. but, we are talking about DS here the Main skill of Stalker. it should be increased. its one of the only offensive skill and fundamental of stalker that makes it one of the unique character. yah, stalker is a versatile class if we are talking about or the main idea is copying other skill. but, DS is an important part of the stalker. if its damage too low, how can it suppose to survive. without DS its like a Bow without an arrow. you know what i mean. HAHAHAHAH

ye ye :D

Edited November 21, 2016 by Yatogami
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[SweetTooth]

Just now, niemono89 said:

If u all still think that stalker's ds were still lacking(compared to originals archer's ds)

I'm still have some good idea:

1. make a new 'quest' legendary arrow set specially for stalkers dex type(re-adjust it btw :3)

2. make new acces* runes just for stalker dex type :3

WTF no... Just NO!

now you agree...... but, That wont work cause increasing dmg on ds is easier.

you are making GMs work OVERLOAD

[niemono89]

Well, the current L.arrow status were just *the best* for snipers job xd

I think stalkers needs their own version too ^^~

ps: please take it slow n steady(no need too rushing about it :p)

 

[Yatogami]

2 hours ago, niemono89 said:

Well, the current L.arrow status were just *the best* for snipers job xd

I think stalkers needs their own version too ^^~

ps: please take it slow n steady(no need too rushing about it :p)

 

You lost me... an arrow is an arrow. even sinx can use an arrow. Its like you're telling us that sinx should also get their own L. Arrows, Gypsy and Clown should get their own L.Arrow as well. Whats the difference? It all falls under ammo.

[p3wp3w]

3 hours ago, niemono89 said:

Well, the current L.arrow status were just *the best* for snipers job xd

I think stalkers needs their own version too ^^~

ps: please take it slow n steady(no need too rushing about it :p)

 

Omg. if you only know how coding is done. sadly, it seems you dont. i'd recommend any buffing that covers dex stalkers,  but -1on making any further add-ons.

[Maiimaii]

HAHAHAHA OMGGG what kind of cancer does he have? L.arrows only for sniper? Dafkk??? We aint rushing stuff girl , can you pleaseeeeeeeeee read what kind of topic you are in? We're on my suggestions and you said you disgaree boosting ds dmg and now you are saying put runes for stalker? New acce? Like wtf???? You just making it more OP you are basically saying boost all skill. And what is this ? No idea why this girl loves suggesting more items or neew items when theres already one stop commenting , because you just keep getting bash'd and all of your nonsese idea ugh girl. Just stop lol

[Rayray]

Let's go back on topic shall we? 

So far this is what I agree with:  Without thanatos, DS damage of stalker is around 7-9k each hit, that barely hits 20k total.  It needs some form of damage boost on that skill to make it hit at decently.

That's it, I don't know what is the argument here.

I would have also suggested soul link on the bow as well so that you can't be dispelled off your skill, but that's me.

Having new arrows is pointless, i dont even use legendary arrows on my stalker.

I would also have put a damage increase(around 10-15%) on the normal skills that a bow stalker MIGHT copy(matyr, shield chain, bowling bash) since just measly increasing DS damage will kill the versatility of the stalker. 

[Maiimaii]

6 minutes ago, Rayray said:

Let's go back on topic shall we? 

So far this is what I agree with:  Without thanatos, DS damage of stalker is around 7-9k each hit, that barely hits 20k total.  It needs some form of damage boost on that skill to make it hit at decently.

That's it, I don't know what is the argument here.

I would have also suggested soul link on the bow as well so that you can't be dispelled off your skill, but that's me.

Having new arrows is pointless, i dont even use legendary arrows on my stalker.

I would also have put a damage increase(around 10-15%) on the normal skills that a bow stalker MIGHT copy(matyr, shield chain, bowling bash) since just measly increasing DS damage will kill the versatility of the stalker. 

There was an auto link before on stalker oriental sword but then it got removed coz of bugged and now its not brutal hg instead and its a active skill so sadly you cantink yourself, and im pretty sure there's already boost dmg in stalker bow by 30-35% bow type skills was it smthing like that, and just i said stalker dont do enougj damage to get in this era atm, not like the old times which our avg damage is 20-40k now we're in this era that you get 100k dmg atleast by other jobs and that whats makes stalker left alone thats why instead of nerfing those low dmg class why not just boost the others then? Its oky even its not dmg boost but somehing atleast that you can par with. 

[niemono89]

Maiimaii

those option that I stated would/wouldn't be accepted(is up to their choices<GM> :3) *not every dex type stalkers will use DS as main skill 4 killing lol*

Bashing it, will just gave more positive thoughts xd

 

Edited November 22, 2016 by niemono89

[niemono89]

Anyway, just curious. 

Does sinx have arrow skills?

Even tho throwing poison knife looks like arrow throwing xd~

[Maiimaii]

Omg... okay i have nothing to say to you anymore LUL 

 

[niemono89]

@Rayray

Skills copy shouldn't increase as much as the stalker's DS :p

Please note it xd

*Original classes skill will only have 1000% advantages~*

[p3wp3w]

3 hours ago, niemono89 said:

Anyway, just curious. 

Does sinx have arrow skills?

Even tho throwing poison knife looks like arrow throwing xd~

Sinxs have arrow skills. meet me in-game and let my sinx poke an arrow on your head.

[Rayray]

7 hours ago, niemono89 said:

@Rayray

Skills copy shouldn't increase as much as the stalker's DS :p

Please note it xd

*Original classes skill will only have 1000% advantages~*

Nope not really, all the other classes have skills that compliment said skills anyway.  And in case you haven't noticed, the copied skills ALREADY deals better damage than the average DS(my shield chain alone deals better damage than my DS without thana).

[Yatogami]

7 hours ago, p3wp3w said:

Sinxs have arrow skills. meet me in-game and let my sinx poke an arrow on your head.

Lol haha but yeah I cant confirm if the element will change depending on the arrow equipped. Also on a side note, When you equip an arrow, it will say you equipped a throwing dagger. but when you use the venom knife skill, it says "please equip proper ammunition first" :D Sorry for being off topic a bit, but yeah. Its just to prove my earlier statement that SinX CAN equip arrows. So yeah -1 to add ons like stalker runes and a class special L. Arrow.

Edited November 23, 2016 by Yatogami
Yeah I researched to prove my statements

[Rayray]

On 23/11/2016 at 2:17 PM, Yatogami said:

Lol haha but yeah I cant confirm if the element will change depending on the arrow equipped. Also on a side note, When you equip an arrow, it will say you equipped a throwing dagger. but when you use the venom knife skill, it says "please equip proper ammunition first" :D Sorry for being off topic a bit, but yeah. Its just to prove my earlier statement that SinX CAN equip arrows. So yeah -1 to add ons like stalker runes and a class special L. Arrow.

You can equip arrows as sinx but the element of the arrow does not affect your weapon

 

The only real use of arrows for sinx is for grimtooth.  If you equip a status effect arrow(freezing arrow for example), and you use grimtooth skill, the status effect of the arrow is carried over to the skill

[lord_dhan26]

On 11/22/2016 at 7:09 PM, Rayray said:

Let's go back on topic shall we? 

So far this is what I agree with:  Without thanatos, DS damage of stalker is around 7-9k each hit, that barely hits 20k total.  It needs some form of damage boost on that skill to make it hit at decently.

That's it, I don't know what is the argument here.

I would have also suggested soul link on the bow as well so that you can't be dispelled off your skill, but that's me.

Having new arrows is pointless, i dont even use legendary arrows on my stalker.

I would also have put a damage increase(around 10-15%) on the normal skills that a bow stalker MIGHT copy(matyr, shield chain, bowling bash) since just measly increasing DS damage will kill the versatility of the stalker. 

oh yeah the dispell immunity.. nice!! i agree with that.. give guardian and bless gears the dispell immunity.

 

On 11/22/2016 at 2:58 PM, niemono89 said:

Well, the current L.arrow status were just *the best* for snipers job xd

I think stalkers needs their own version too ^^~

ps: please take it slow n steady(no need too rushing about it :p)

 

GIVE NINJAS LEGENDARY KUNAIs and SHURIKENS TOO!! mehehehe

 

[Ares]

On 11/18/2016 at 3:27 AM, niemono89 said:

Cookie

I think u misunderstand it literally lol

Champ's asura can miss due to ninja's cicada skill :3

Most of sinx's skill can't miss except grimtooth(if u want a brief  content lol)

 

 

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