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ANy UPDATES ON this ?

make it into a offensive version of SA So instead of resistance boost attack power / matk Let it have a chance to maybe proc lex aterna 5%. Give it cloak like afk hat. Or make a new aura for the same at 60$ offensive type.

Bump for some admin love :D

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That's what I said too if u change all to use bg gear then u can balance. But u can't allow a mix of normal like valk and Diablo and normal weapons with slots. Cause of the MVP cards. If u read my earlier post that was what i said. I specifically said bg gear is only balanced if every one has to use it.

Also it will cause 2users with Maya to have bolts being reflected back and forth cause of how the game script works.

ur probably right that tk/ ninja will be worst effected . My expertise is in GS hence I can easily explain with them.in context. Yes u say rifle has 4 slots but only problem is u can't use ur main skills with rifle.. So no rapid showers no desperado. Bg gear is only balanced if every one has to use it at fro. simply cause they are inferior to any normal +10wepon(4) with MVP cards. now if u disable MVP cards then u can balance it pure vanila style. cause a combo of thanatos ,VR,turtles incant samurai.not to mention whitesmith ,stormy knight etc Is very much more stronger and potent than bg gear so just using them in a 4 slotted wepon makes a huge difference. Ur right when u say as a six x losing ur offhand wepon4 cards makes a huge difference . Its basicly the same when u say a gunslinger should now use a 2slot wepin instead of 4 . Not to mention its a loss that's not caused due to equipibg a resist shield.

Cause reflect damage is not calculated as physical or magic damage.its like a true damage I think it is also u affected by resistance of any kind. the game is designed like that i don't think it can be changed at all its also the reason u can't reflect back the original reflect damage .

I do play Gs on normal servers still am active Let me say for a fact unless u out gear them u are not at all competitive against trans classes That's considering near equal skill lvls.I've been playing Gs for 5 yrs. im not sure what ur tAlking about.. Also comparing a 99/70 to fro is dumb Cause ok in 99/70 u put one tg ur damages goes up by a way lower amout than here So having 2 extra slots in a wepon at lvl 250 is huge huge huge difference Just try using a wepon with just 2 cards and one with 4 damage cards.. With any class ull see..what i mean

Well when u play a gunslinger with no custom.items plus no access to trans gear irs a real pain Plus when ur best gun has 2slots only... U realize this is nt the reason I switched over from my other server to Play a more balanced gunslinger. Im.all in for bg but if u think ur balancing it by making it non custom that's not true. Yes u will always find ppl with gr8 skill that will rise even with handicap. But the idea is not to handicap a class. The main charm if this server to me are its customs. Thats what's keeping the balance. U tell me I farm out my custom gear but can't use it for the one thing I love the. Most its really pointless then. Woe is just a spam fest .. And not at all enjoyable pvp mostly. Duels gvg are fun bgs are the. Real fun if made properly. So if u gonna implement it should be unrestricted or u will find that u will struggle to find ppl and a ton of the same trans classes being used And the rest ignored. Trying throwing a kunai with a ninja normal weapon its really fun . :[

I think using the right counter element makes a big difference .

I think this might lead to more imbalance. Currently classes are been worked into balance assuming higher stars And the custom items. removing them will cause some major unbalance between classes. And then ppl will start asking for balancing around bg's and that's a duwnward slope. Just eg: snipers will lose use of shield, same for Gs who will also be left with only western outlaw only 2slots....also . not to mention valk/ Diablo gears are not equipable by non trans. This is just one can of worms that u do not want to open. Plus its more motivating for me to gear myself up for bg when I know I can actually use that gear. Do not restrict gear pvp for any game has and always will be gear and skill dependant. it's a formulae that works , so just make it un restricted. Ppl I assure u will gear up for it. New players like me will be more motivated to get gears to compete.

For me it's all about playing something I njoy. I don't enjoy pve much at all a pvp bg would be gr8 do i spend time in game having fun . Instead of having to wait for pvp.. Or just random ganks, or having to go play Garena-League of legends for pvp action :D

I like it and agree we do need some fun with daggers +1

Probably cause u don't have the ws self buffs or cart termination skill.

What happens when u dispel a SN . Does it unequip the ring.. Cause then its not that big a issue. If it doesn't unequip and u still maintain Stats and bonus then that's the problem Or else to keep it on they would have to keep gtb on And that means a lot of incoming physical damage.

http://rathena.org/board/topic/88480-rebellion-sprite-only-for-gunslinger/ Just a sprite dwld link

Like I said reward badges that can be traded for consumables. Would be useful to every one. I don't see a need to punish donators and not allow donation grab Many have earned it the Hard way. And this server is balanced around the donation gear. If ur not geared no reason for u not to be pawned in pvp. This should only motivate u to get geared. So having rewards for win and loss is the way to go. Keep it at a 3:1 ratio i.e if i get 3tokens for a win i get 1 for a loss. this is a donation based server and economy that also rewards hard work. Making it non donate is totally discouraging for me i wanna do bgs earn tokes sell stuff Get donation gear and pawn more in bgs. If its not allowed then i have no real motivation. I just want a pvp alternative to farm and have fun and gear up instead of having to make a wizard and pve farm I kinda hate playing wizards.. Hence i never farm..just not my play style using a wizard.

Personally I suggest do not make multiple bgs stleast when u start Keep it free for all cause u need a good community and 20or more ppl for each bg Splitting up the pvp community will be a bad idea . Like I said making a loss still fun and worth by smaller rewards is better. trust me even with huge populations on a server getting a bg with 20ppl is hard. U don't wanna split the pvp community with non don . I myself have no donation gear But I know form.personal experience for this to work u should not split it.

Balancing it is not a big deal just random ppl get assigned if u out gear yes u can pawn But that's pvp, also ppl will not be able to go in premade grps- so many times ull have geared ppl on both sides. And losing is not that bad when undergeared as ull still make tokens just lesser in no.but that will help u gear up And keep u motivated , that u too can be that guy who pawns :D May also lead to major donations as ppl wanna pawn in bgs Only thing imp here is to have a bot/ afk check Else it will be abused. Usually in bgs there is a limit on consumables u can carry So that should be done some servers its completely disables consumables like seeds/pots Of course edp/acid bottles are not on that list. Should be fun of we can work it out.

Ya but would be nice to have a way via pvp instead of having to make a wizard to farm . I really don't enjoy pve or playing the wizard so much. just have some new bg tokens that can be traded for seeds,acid bottles,edp,converters That's would be kool I know is was a gr8 feature in a server I played many years back I could trade 10 kvm tokens for 100edp :D Was real fun every one was doing bgs..

Lol I was gonna make a similar post.. Tks Rayray Btw but is ifrit good on ws I was under the impression ifrit didn't add much for CT And using Str runes was better as far as CT damage goes. Can any one confirm.on that.

How about giving bullets critical wound lvl 2/3. so to compensate for spam dps loss. Def wise I can't think if anything better/ balanced than 5-10% hp/sp boost. damage redux or stuff like that would be too much of a boost

I think a good concept would work anywhere Pvp is gear dependant so yes good gear will pawn bad But I think that's ok it will encourage ppl to gear up The system can be like win gets 3 bg tokens and loss gets 1 so even if u got pawned ur still making ur bg tokens Now then these tokens can be used to buy either gear or consumables (seeds/edp), So ppl could earn by pvp and gear up slowly so they can pawn others in time.. Haha.. Its a viscious cycle this PvP

I love bgs. But this bring my first high rate server I am not sure not how it works on high rate With such high damage and aspd on everyone. Probably need some major modifications. Would be pretty nice though.