Masahiro

lol whatver the max reduct should be obtained, it should be obtained with sacreds on.. sacred and friggs on, those 2, don't stack the other items with more priority. sacred should have the max priority, then Devs then Friggs. in order of equipping etc, combat the lowest (or highest depending on the Gm's goals with these revamped reducts) the fact that you sacrifice a ruc or w/e and a helm is good to get this u need to sacrifice stats and the slot from the lower and a slot from the upper to get this type of defense

yeah this been accepted b4, but i wanna have it implemented 2 lol

Bahahahaha! whose from Jamaica nub! LOL Zac and i are from Trinidad :P i Like the silent bob accent! too sexy for words... LITERALLY :PP <3 lmao kat get a micc!! we missin ur voice in all of this :P

yeah i know xD and i agree with you, sounds good. what do others have to say?

yeah man! i was gona say i personally want the reducts to work well for the newer/lesser geared players to help with their survivability but the advantageous and absurd reduct capacity of some classes shouldnt be propogated on the same breath currently im watching a lesser geared sinx pvp in for fild with dev hat, and i cant help but feel if that is nurfed 2 much it'll make their life a hell, but balance must be found! cuz at the same token we cant have some stalker all defensed up like fort knox and running amok forever. this is a tricky issue. i still maintain 75% is enough, but yeah as Cirr is saying and others above once certain things don't stack its fine certain combinations etc etc, so no1 has to suffer with their individual reduct item but in combination it cannot exceed x% as you guys are deciding whether it be 70, 75 or 80% Edit: in my opinion if you have sacred why do you need to wear dev as well? it should be choice either to wear a sacred and get its bonus with friggs or w/e or wear a dev and get just a bit MORe defense and wear friggs etc but lack things like aspd 2 slots, nd f.set bonus etc wearing Sacred u lose the 10 stats from ruc or the extra 10 from a scarf to whatever stat. combat knife could add in here if that works out so, combo 1: friggs = 60% + sacred = 10% = 70 OR combo 2: or friggs + dev etc = 75% combo 3: and friggs dev + combat knife for those lucky enough to wear 1 = 80% (though i personally am against this, but give and take is part of life) as mentioned above etc. final words: i don't see why u have to have 80% glory defense, 75% seems enough to me, but w/e, remember most will never have friggs or sgws so count your blessings

yeah you'll be fine with your ping no worries and the Galil is an okay gun, it has a 60% recoil to the N and E positions and 20% to the W and S. that kinda makes it tooo unpredictable for me BUT its first shot/ burst fire goes exactly on target. combine that with its uncanny ability to hold its damage over a further range than all the other guns, this gun IS win. juussttt i dont like it, so i it SUX for me LOL (smeay's fav gun fyi) i seem to be loving the M16, famas and enfield in that order lately (yes enfield lmao) Kat! gungame FTW! gungame = teh awsmness sharpshooter = h4x! always changing my gun when im about to kill sum1 into something gey liek akimbo smgs ..fml @kuoch Zac always runs around dooing that LMao i swear he is h4x sometimes, frikkin balistic knifing ppl across the map, im like DOOOD... dubble U Tee Efff. crossbow ftw =] ..STICK EM MAKE EM GO BOOM >=D JEJEJEJE

lol i dont agree here, with the current 3 castles there is already insane competition for them, we dont want people holding 2 much of a monopoly especially since lucky breaks happen fairly often in the latter 3-5 mins of woe. coming back to the current reduct system Large guilds e.g Trans with a million members online get broken through fairly often from 5-8 men factions with these reducts. not to mention if there are only 2 castles, more than just these 'large guilds' will attack them. a single guild cannot hope to fend off 2-3 other guilds just gunning for their emp with the current state of affairs (damage done in Woe and Reducts combined) if the castle count is reduced to 2 then this will simply become a repeat of Euro woe, since even in that not a lot of people bother. this idea would be counter-productive. if anything Euro woe should be 2 castles.

ahhhh everything above is a good ideaaa lol wooee tokkenns ./rice nines u like tacos?...demn mexican LOL jk but yeah guys, make woe more exciting the guardians were fun, and if they increase dramatically in ability and number that would bring more diversity and role into attcking a castle. Sanctuary must also get fixed/ buffed, it is a vital part of defending a castle and restoring the emp's health in the lag time until more breakers arrive. incoming joke but: have this megasaurus thanatos/detale type creature pop up every random minute and murk every1 in a random room in teh castle Lolol (a joke but still, mix things up, make it interesting) ill try to come up with a good idea myself a little later =D

i disagree halion, now if we add in e.g some of the rare-er emps liek black and rainbow/ red etc droppable ONLY in these events (even if by epically low chance) that may make these events immensely popular, and boost server participation. what if some of the mobs nines thought up dropped helpful consumables e.g candies etc or other simple things, it could be liek a major fun and serious event at the same time. im 100% sure that server-wide participation would increase dramatically for these events. this is a really great suggestion, 2 thumbs up

i think everything you said up to the remaining 5-10% is golden, its always been kinda harsh to make Dev hat and the lot give more reduction worth than sacreds, then again dev hat would replace your Gvh or f.helm so i still agree here. the existance / added bonus of the combat knife should be erradicated entirely as others have pointed out before not everyone can equip it, so the classes we're complaining about that are ALREADY getting a boost from the reducts i.e the stalkers, snipers, clowns etc etc should not still have a reduct advantage over everyone else (most noticable the priest as someone mentioned above, which on that point, priest kill VERY well if you know what your doing) i still maintain that 75% reduct max is fair, and that it is a manageable amount to be defensive with while still not maintaining an abused status. and the friggs shield should also remain better than the f.shield due to its difficult questing to acquire. though the actual f.shield should not be nurfed from its current state, the others surrounding it should be adjusted accordingly. at least we're all on the same page for change, the debate is for the Gms now. Good work Cirr with the above post.

haha na i no confuse, i dunt thnk she has mic either tho but yeah famas is win (sometimes) when the random recoil doesnt kick in (i like to shoot frum far a lot) akimbo shottys Lololol and ballistic knife haha ima do that. lets go on later after woe or something and run around with those badboys Lolll

same for me for the most, cept i die a lot more LOL but the point is, there's life after reducts people its called skill in pvp

true my bad lol forgot about that hahah then the 70-75% Lol i play star glad (said for the lulz) but the reduction of shield, sgw and hat should not surpass 70-75%, combat knife in replace of 1 of the others is your choice no1 asked u to wear combat knife when u didnt need too because without combat knife as pointed out before a million classes still retain their max pvp strenght e.g snipers, clowns and stalkersss what does a reduct hat take away from them? maya P? lol f.soldier? only because its 1 slotted, there no sacrifice anywhere else, people stat with being dec agi in mind fairly often and as such still have extra stats to agi etc, dex adds aspd and instacast. so wearing such things as wings and dev hat barely slow you down if you've accommodated for it combine this with the only damage influencing factor the weapon and yeah, your full strength and a walking tank(why would you swap out your fbh shoes or w/e so dont mention it). sgws and other wings are already factored into the equation because people wear things other than rucsacs like scarves etc if i wanted to with the current gear i can go full reduct, put on 100 PD and have insane flee and walk around and be immortal i have the knowledge and the current gear provides the means..THAT potential is OP.

rofl xD, smeay does the same voices for the chat he does in game his famous "Aaaahh" i hear it all the time xD its pretty stoked xP but Kat i must say, YOU sound the best..ur voice is so sexy lol, i swear its like a goddess i just go deaf and can't hear anything because of its Awsmness hahahahhahh Lol who thinks Genesis should get an xbox and come join us? :P Edit: and yeah lol smeay had EnixCupcake, and Adam his bro is Nutty but Smeays on that right through now doesn't make sense to pay for 2 separate xbl in the same household lol

Genesis, thumbs up. good response, you understand well what we're saying and we have faith that you guys will adjust accordingly your idea of Woe and pvp is synonymous with our own and once we have that common understanding, im sure this issue will be resolved in a way everyone is happy. Godspeed it is just my personal opinion 60%-65% reduction should be the maxed however. i still think that is doable and usable strategically. once paladins etc can still do their duty efficiently etc then yes.

Loll I do agree with what your saying more than what I said, but I dnno just suggested it because it came to mind, as an alternative Or an on the spot gm decision if say someone was running for a whole 30 min with nothing else goin on

Everyone has their honest opinion but if people would pay attention to the facts we present they would realise we're not just making things up Healthy criticism is welcomed but do not jusy say no no and no without proposing some alternative. If everything was as right as you claimed it, why are so many lk players speaking up and asking for something/change? We appreciate the boosts but don't get me wrong, but if your going to do it then do it right! I know beggars can be choosers but these are donatable items we're talking about, real money. And for the last time I'll say I personally can live with what we have but I am speaking on behalf of all others, it takes me no effort to hop on my overpowered clown (which is my main for the last year and a half) and wreak havok, but I prefer to play lk because its the chr I've loved since I first started ro and I want to see it do well, so do it right if you guys dont liek dispel then i can suggest something along the lines of a Ws or Shattering strike effect since that isnt nearly as bad as strip. and if the snipers can strip within melle range with that then so can the LKs by that regard right?, still have to melle to do it (and break armor isnt as bad as strip armor)

Loll manifest ask yourself how many classes are within this strip melle range and how many are not Ask yourself what is the differnce of casting coma as a stand alone and then having to hit the person or casting comas as your already hitting the person with an arrow 195 aspd The two are not the same. We lks and we players in general have come to accept these 2 advantageous traits and have adapted, how is lk being able to dispel anything great? They can do it already and the damage difference is insignificant, thus why we ask for such a little compensation.. To give us Something! Just as jorge said while everything began at a monstrous op level everything else was adjusted accordingly except the lks who received the biggest nurf with zero compensation (yes they may have been the most overpowered at the time) but that is the past. Now they want something they feel they deserve. You can create a poll if you'd like.. If you played lk..the underdog of the ro world you would understand where they are coming from

lol yeah even i actually wouldn't mind joining in here on the storyline and other parts, i too am into norse mythology a lot hence why i still play Ro :P etc etc( but that's if this gets a thumbs up somewhere along the line) good luck!