Shino

This was suggested before and it wasn't accepted. The reasoning behind it is that Gunslingers do not need to get more damage. They are already dishing out 12k each hit without even using immaterial bullets. and Desperado hits a good 3-10x per cast, and is easily spammable. Gunslingers do not need help in terms of damage.

This is a suggestion, comment in a civilized way and remove the hostility or I will have to raise warn levels. Back on Topic Think of it this way. Every donation item is obtainable through sheer farming. One of the options to gain tokens is through selling of MVP cards. With the statements you both gave, I am assuming that the tower would be an easier way to get MVP cards compared to the normal hunt of MVP in their respective maps or the MVP room. If the price of MVPs drop by a lot, it would be harder for newer players to gain the gear they want, sure they got the mvp cards but where would they put them in? And honestly, the only MVPs now being camped is TG and High Priest MVP, so I don't really see how that plays into the discussion. The idea is not bad, I like it since I myself is already looking for something worth doing that doesn't involve farming or PvP. I can agree to it if: 1. card drops are decreased significantly 2. A long time delay so it wouldn't be abused. 3. Thanatos is not included in the spawns OR it is included but has no card drop. 4. one tower allows all equips, 2 of them only allow ND equips, so everyone is on equal footing. 5. We set a decent time limit for the towers, meaning you can only stay inside for X hours until you get warped out. 6. @commands are not allowed inside the tower 7. An account can only do one tower per day, meaning after doing the 1st tower, he/she still cannot try to enter the other 2 until the day resets.

7k one hand damage translates to around 14k if double attack procs. you need to keep switching for it from shield to off hand weapon(which i will assume you have, and has 2x TG and 2x Skel Worker). another is switching to stripping cards/ws/stormyknight/thanatos maero. You have to play smart and keep switching on DD sinx. and keep switching so that you can surprise them on their ygging.

My sinx is still using dual daggers(or dagger on right, loki's blade on left), and yes i do need phreeoni to reach 505 hit so i won't miss against people with normal flee.

It will create tons of tokens into the market, Zeny isn't hard to gain. With that in mind, I disagree.

We are really trying to stop being elitist. It wouldn't be fair for new players if we had this quest.

Guys who got stuck at part 5. Ignore the next step that says you need to go back to the throne room. After killing him in cmd_fild08, just talk to him again and he will tell you where the mother and child. By then proceed on going directly to the mother and child.

every donation item is non exclusive, meaning that they are tradeable. You can gain every donation item there is by just trading tokens, tokens can then be gained by farming seeds,berries or speed potions and selling them to people, or hunting MVP cards and selling them.

if we buff up the legendary katar, it should be 80% of what kitty claws is. they cannot be giving stats exactly the same.

there is no longer a way to gain the elite weapons aside from buying it from players. So i do not think it is necessary.

Yes :)

You need to get 500 hit at least. I have seen no other LK actually having problems with their hit.

As a Katar User myself, this one I could agree on. but this means buffing up Kitty claws as well.

We see what you are getting at, however, also look at it in our perspective. We cannot monitor everyone using this skill, we cannot say if they are newbies or just trying to take advantage. With that in mind, the only preventive measure we can do is to actually remove the skill temporarily until we get a real fix. Yes, this skill help newbies to get cards, it also makes rich people able to abuse it. There are other ways to gain cards anyway. We all started the same way, no tokens, no everything. As some of you might know, we also had the @noks command. On top of that, hunting MVPs is not the only way to get the cards, as I did way back, I just farmed berries and seeds and concentrated potions and got away with that. Everything, honestly, is handed down to you guys. Vote Forsaken Sets, Better Legendary Weapons, a guide to do the needed quests, legendary auras and other stuff. It wasn't like this before. Veterans who played through 2007 until now knows what I am talking about. We also competed against the "rich guys" from our time before the same way you guys did, only difference is we are using NPC equips against people with King sets. It might take a lot of work but it isn't impossible. I do not have a final say about this skill. However, I agree with Veracity at the moment. I won't advice bringing back that skill until we get a certain fix for it that will stop people from abusing it.

I don't really think it is necessary, they already have the concentration buff.

Some classes become way stronger than intended. RO was supposed to be a game where every class has at least one counter, with 3rd classes, that wasn't the case on some of them

The left hand cards also support the damage of the right hand weapon.

No need for a topic aimed to humiliate others. Closing this now. Next person to attempt this kind of topic will receive a warning.

Kitty Claws is the donation counterpart of the legendary weapons.

Ill be checking on them all later. Some might be considered a scam since as you mentioned, they are really misleading. By then, I might be able to hand out punishments.

Please do not repost the topic. Your topic has already been reviewed by the Administrator, hence it was moved to the other subforum. Closing this.

There was no need to increase the damage of Sonic Blow. There was a time in 2008 I believe that the Soul Link for SinX gives the full effect(which is 50% increase in sonic blow) and that blew everyone out of the water, I remember not even needing Kiels since everyone dies within one hit of SB(around 30k+ each hit). with your suggestion, adding the link it would give 40% increase to SB. So I disagree on it. If we buff up the legendary katar, the valk equivalent should follow. Crit is pretty much useless on the katar, no need to put that in the weapon that you will be using for a Skill Based SinX. The reason the Legendary Katar and the Kitty Claws seem not good enough is because SB is a very strong skill to begin with. At the moment, A sinx using Ship Captain, have a link, and using Kitty Claws can deal around 18k SB per hit, and that is huge, so with legendary that should average around 16k. 3 kiels makes you able to spam 3x at least, everyone with less than 250k will drop down. I would prefer it to have an increase in damage with Grimtooth, not SB honestly.

We did have Venrtillo before, so I will say Ventrillo :)

Not completely, RO mechanics made it so that 4 cards doesn't completely stack in the same weapon, and we haven't changed that.

it would ruin economy, as we have vote king sets(which are exact copies of the donation ones). and there are tons of ways to abuse the system if voting items can be traded.