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Have effects on, slow down the video. When SB is cast, you should see a white circle animation. Count how many circles that is = that how much Sonic Blow was cast.

Oh and then pm me if you go for raids, I do it for fun anyway.

@Shadi it was awesome to know that people remember your wizard. It was fun pvping alongside your wiz as I remember it. The thing to remember about physical attack and magic attack is that magic attack has a range it follows. Compared to physical classes using Ship captain, the magic eyes/lolihat wizard's damage is still far. Physical damage is at least very stable. Add the fact that it was easy to ignore the physical defense using crit, incant card OR forcing people to use skolls so their defense is around negative. Magic does a lot of damage, but not comparable to most burst skills that physical classes do. I see no harm making the magiceyes/lolihat have the immunity to freeze. The kafra band might need some tests though. The priority should be, at the very least, is wizard's capability to survive. The HP comes first, then the immunity to freeze. Then we can discuss the changes/suggestions regarding skills The aspd bonus suggestion on the highness is actually a big thing, it should compensate the huge aspd loss of not wearing a complete fset. Since at the moment, if a wizard wants to deal high enough damage to be at least competitive, he has to use one of the headgears. also by using one of the headgears, it follows that the HP suffers as well. Then add the huge setback of having no immunity to freeze. The suggestions mentioned were well thought out that they all compliment each other. Having a bit of HP helps a lot, making the headgears have immunity to freeze increases the survival capacity of the wizard, and adding a little bit of aspd on the highness compensates the loss of the full fset bonus and having +100 hit on the rings makes it so that the wizard does not need to use phree card on the weapon, thus enabling him to put other cards that can increase his stave damage.

I think it gives my bichoem around 8-10 aspd, not sure though.

I still feel that the imp/siroma cards are part of the "prof cards". They benefit HUGELY on those due to double bolt, while wizards do not as much. Hell, Biochemists benefit more on imp/siroma cards due to the extra damage given by Jrage. We should have variety. It isn't hard to create an accessory card that has the same buff of imp/siroma but on different skill. The hp is definitely a problem. I have the best wing in the server(Eidelic) which gives 30% more hp, and even then, my prof still has better hp, and my prof uses scarf for god sakes. Using the mage type hats(loli, magic eyes) that does not have immunity to freeze is a huge disadvantage. Add the fact that by not having the complete FSET you have to put more stuff in agi to get 195 aspd, which indirectly lowers either your damage or your hp(since you use more stats in agi) On the highness: I would prefer that it gets the doppelganger card effect. .

The better suggestion was to create already the other weapons for gunslingers. Although if that would be implemented, we would have to change the whole 80% cast delay thing again on gunslingers. By that time, we would have to make desperado the only skill that has the 80% after cast delay(probably). But for now, the delays in place were decent enough to make the class playable.

It was funny that the last suggestion topic got closed before I get to reply(working sucks sometimes). Oh well. Well since you guys want facts. Then here we go. My gunslinger gear that I used to test: using fset Fhelm: 2 kiels Skull Aura- Kiel Eidelic Wing/ Scarf= fsoldier/maya purple. Eidelic wing gives around 20k more hp, so it wasn't a that huge. armors: tao gr, tao puppetring, tao garm, tao rsx, rsx gr, tao tao, tao angeling Weapons: 2 Legendary guns, one with incant, 2x tg and valk randgris. The other with thana, 2x tg and valk randgris Shield- friggs: usakoring, GTB, Maya Cloak: 2x skoll, 2x raydric, 2x noxious boots: 2x fbh acc : 2x dex belts Not gonna post the exact stats but STR is high enough to carry 200+ seeds + speed potions + few resists. around 220k hp on one tao since I put more focus on dex and str. can lower dex to put more hp if needed. Did not use uber drops card to fix the delay on 80% Desperado Damage per hit ranging from 11k-16k depending on enemy on incant, 22k-26k on thana. Damage jumps when someone get stoned and use fire bullets of course. Does not have Ring, Valis, Freyrs and Ship captain hat. So damage is actually lower than fully geared gunslingers. Spam is not as slow as 70% before, easier to kill people off since spam was actually decent. Spam would be faster if I used uber drops, but then survivabilty gets lowered since it sacrifices the fsoldier card. Survivability is decent, gunslinger has more hp than my clown on similar gear setup and stats. Classes that can one shot my gunslinger are full asura champs(if im not on raydrics), fully buffed sb sinx and MBed prof. Any class beside high hp ones are one shotted by those classes, so survivability is definitely not an issue. Typical asura will hit 90k-120k on raydrics if they are not full. hp is around 200k on dual raydrics. More than enough to tank asura since you will be spamming seeds along with desperado anyway. Rapid shower feels slow with 80% spam compared to before. But it isn't unusable and is supposed to be a secondary skill anyway. Haven't encountered a single sinx that went dual weapons(crit mostly) that didn't die the moment they went dual. We are discussing class balance, so player skill is not to be considered, but gear should be. Any nerf/buff we do indirectly affects lesser geared people. Buffing the gunslinger class blindly will not help them much, but will only help people that has complete gear. Used one bullet all through out the testing phase. Didn't find the need to use converter nor change bullet. Bullet element is fire. Trying to borrow valis and ring from someone and test again after that. Not going to be able to gain enough activity to get ship captain hat though. If you are still skeptical on the values I listed there, please leave your IGN. @Sensation they nerfed the spam of GS(according to Veracity) due to lag, but not graphics lag. In woe, if there are too many GS prior to the nerf and they are spamming desperado, anybody that sees them get client lag.

As I said it was a bait. O_O You really think I who played in the server since 2007 wouldn't know which works with which? It was the ninja argument thread all over again, that I have to make every reply as literal as possible. And as I said it on the my second reply, I was indeed trying to sound as sarcastic as possible since James claims that dual handed sinx tanks his desperado(which in my experience on gunslinger, never happened to me, and my Gunslinger is not as geared as my biochemist). Sadly, as it seems, it didn't come out right as I hoped. The joke/sarcasm loses its value when I had to explain, I should have known better.

It was a bait. I put it there as a joke and a method to know if you actually read my replies. And to see at least who has the brain to actually know small stuff like that(like how I caught nellysky on this topic not knowing simple stuff like that). Which makes me wonder why your replies constantly go from decent to crap once someone disagrees. . Yes, non-rebirth classes cannot wear ifrit rings. So why did I say that you should wear them? Because you claim that a two hand sinx tanks your desperado damage which shouldn't even be possible, you claim you have a hard time against champs that has to go near your desperado spam which staggers them and makes them not be able to spam asura as much as they could have, and you claim you have problems against clown class that does not have high hp and cannot possibly tank a decent desperado. So I decided to reply with a stupid, non-constructive, non-realistic, and untrue statement, pretty much the same way you have been replying to anyone disagreeing, just to show you how it sounds when someone does an idiotic reply. Now, do you see how annoying it is when you reply to someone with a decent argument and they start sprouting nonsense? You reply stupid stuff, I can reply with that too. Back on topic, I find it seriously weird that you guys think we want to get GS nerfed so bad. Just a reminder, I created a constructive topic when the aftercast delay reduction of kiels was set to 70%. Because I know then 70% was not enough. Genesis accepted one of my suggestions on that topic, and set your aftercast delay reduction to 80%, and added a little bit more damage on your skills. That change has not been out for a long time, and here we go again with another suggestion that sounded more like whining(much like the first one you guys created). The better suggestion is to have different set of weapons for gunslingers, not adding more damage to desperado and rapid shower.

Then that was one of the difference between us, you see I DONT HOTKEY STORAGE, I use bm and still double click stuff in inventory. And I am pretty sure I am not the one lying here, Revolver Gunslingers don't have enough skills to actually use up 3 skill bars, and that includes the buffs, which you claim you do. Elemental resists? that's at most 4 slots only. I can even put gear on the skill bars and I still have about 2 - 3 keys available. Just for the sake of your argument, you actually claim that I only fought noob people when I don't even hit newbies(unlike you guys). My standards for champ is actually pretty high because of Airi, so believe me, I know which champs are gear carried. Pro BIos? You are talking to one of them, out of the 5. Name a bio that can combat dual devs + gtb besides me,airi and rusty. BB LK on GTB will waste more seeds than me due to him using GTB and spamming BB. And I deal 14k-16k desperado, I would definitely like to see that doubled against someone who used GTB. I can also go kyrie shoes in here since he went GTB. I can think of a lot more stuff to do here. I was actually laughing at the jupitel thunder argument of yours regarding clowns, I am sorry that you didn't know what RSX card does. I default skolls, can switch to holy armor if i wanted to. I would like to see the prof that can kill me on stave. Yes, blue ifrit rings against sinx to get assumptio. I am sorry to hear that you do not know when and how to switch accessories. I didn't say I default them, it was easy to switch out gears anyway. I was giving a suggestion to you since you seem to die from them a lot. It was funny that they can tank you on dual weapons. Are you sure there is something wrong with the gunslinger class, or just you? Oh and btw, auto pnuema acc against sniper. Use it please.

I don't get the sarcasm really, since desperado is a melee skill therefore you need to get close to the enemy, and yet you guys are complaining that you can't handle people at melee range when you need the enemy to be AT melee range. I don't see anything wrong with my statement that you quoted. Stop relying on a 2 button spam(seeds and desperado). No class can kill everything. I used gunslinger with legendary guns and dex belts when they had 70% aftercast. Killed a champ that had ring, bio cant do anything with devs + gtb, spam disarm on LK and dispel him(valk randgris card), clown got pathetic hp and spam that they die in a few desperado spams, prof is easy by using reflect gear, sinx is especially easy with reflect dispel and wearing gr or alternately, switching to blue ifrit to get assump, sniper is funny when they go fas with ship captain since i just stone them and spam desperado with fire bullets. I do not see your problem. The above things were even possible when the GS had 70% reducts only. Now that we got 80%, I don't see why you guys claim to have difficulty. I would have an easier time if I have ring,freyrs and valis, which I assume you have.

I use SBK sinx and high wizard. I approve of this message.

1. Awesome, thanks :). 2. Ideally, that would be the best way to do it. However, it works simply well in 1v1 situations, I myself don't really find switching acc as much on group pvp. The idea for me was to play as a magic class(I love magic classes), until such time they decide to go GTB. That is why I advised Urds even on my biochemist guide. But yeah, if you are rich enough to have both acc, then by all means do it. This also allows you to have lex aeterna on the lokis, and imp/siroma on the urds. 3. Stone Curse really is awesome :) 4. I do use sight most of the time as well. Sometimes it is a matter of preference though, that is why i said whichever they want. And the damage sometimes also staggers the enemy which allows me to get in a decrease agi, while sight sometimes just makes people(sinx) spam backslide the moment I uncloak them. Thanks for the awesome input Bishop. :)

Isn't that gunslingers INTEND for their enemies to get closer due to desperado hitting more if the enemy is nearer? I tried the spam WITHOUT the uber drops, it was decent. Try spamming soul destroyer without using kitty claws and compare it along with the damage.

sadly even I haven't found a way to gain the 2k stats back. we just have to wait and see.

Are you guys actually serious? I seen the delay placed now(80%) plus the damage increase and it was more than enough They nerfed gunslinger for a reason. And btw, tons of gunslingers already reduce their cast delay by 85% using 3 kiels and a custom card we had(I can't remember exactly if it is Uber Drops or Uber Poring), which I am pretty sure they didn't intend to stack with kiels in the first place.

Disagree on the top 5 getting rewards. Having one castle on euro for me is what makes it fun though.

I just recently picked up Star Gladiator again, and I noticed that there is some sort of delay after using FSK. You can spam FSK constantly, however, if you want to do the sprint > FSK, you have to move a little after FSK so you can start up sprint. However, at the moment, it has some sort of delay to it. Please correct me if I did something wrong, or if there is another way to actually be able to sprint without having to move first.

that's weird that you lost your fame that fast, I haven't even seen someone that have their fame on(As I am almost always have my fame on when I am pvping, I turn it off when i'm lazy)

^ I myself would want that, but seeing as Skull Aura(which is an aura made for reducts) didn't have +HP, I assume they will not do it to myth as well.

and it has been suggested multiple times. and is always rejected.

50% might be too high. I would rather decrease the time of spawn for the mvp(much like how we did it with Lost Dragon) and keep the chance or increase it a little.

If you get a decent rig, awesome ping and good hands, 4 can indeed be done with no link, but that is on the best conditions. So, on the average, and considering most people will not get less than 50 ping, 3-4 on a link is the standard.

This was suggested before, it was rejected as gaining zeny is easy enough and it would just make the economy worse than it is now.