Rayray

Minor Correction: the max a gunslinger can get now is 85% using the uber drops card and losing a slot for fsoldier/maya p. Just have to point it out. Ghost bullet will effectively double a GS damage. It should be tested, but I feel it is a bit too much even with 80% spam rate. If we do a rough calculation. Most GS will damage 12k each hit of desperado. Let us say that the average is 4 hits. That means 48k damage. Now if we add the ghost bullet and enemy wearing ghostring armor, that becomes 96k in one spam. Spam might be slow, but desperado hits a maximum of 10x. And we are not calculating Thanatos Desperado damage YET. I hit 22k desperado on thana, so let us say 4 hits is the average. That translates to 88k, double that if we had ghost bullet: 176k just for 4 hits of desperado. What if it hits more than that? Shadow bullet, I can agree with as I said before, I see no harm on having it. Ghost bullet, still have to test it out a lot but I don't think it will balance out ever. Might as well just increase the GS hp more and add a bit more damage to desperado and rapidshower.

Every class has to be geared to be decent, I said that on my post. Snipers hitting 50k are GEARED. And stop wearing GR armor against them. I do 12k each hit of desperado on legendary gun and without the use of ship captain hat. Desperado damage hasn't changed, the delay did a little. The classes that hit hard(snipers, sinx, profs,LK) are always like that, but those classes has specific counters to them and cards that are easily gained to protect against them. Noxious is one that reduces sniper's damage, but that card do not work against GS since desperado is considered melee. Puppetring makes snipers remove their ship captain hat as well. I suggested a few things about this but almost NONE OF THE GS agreed and just continued to whine. I suggested that since Desperado is the main reason for the nerf, why not just give desperado a specific delay cap but not the other skills. That way desperado is delayed a little bit but rapid shower isn't. That is the best solution I can see on the problem BUT almost no one agreed and just continued on spamming on the forums about how GS is so underpowered now, completely disregarding the reason for the nerf. And again, GS is far from being underpowered, use a wizard first to know what is underpowered.

Can you guys tell me which of you can invite me around january 2nd or 3rd? :D

GS desperado causes GRAPHICS LAG. The lag you experience during last minute when there are tons of people around the emp is a different type of lag. Sure, the nerf caused some people to quit the class, but doesn't that mean that the problem was with the users of the class? I still see a few decent GS around, although I gotta admit that they have to be pretty geared, or at least have thanatos, but most classes are like that too. I'll give an example. About a year ago, Biochemists are just used as FCPers, since Bios are easily countered(gr+fcp already screws them up) and the class is really not that strong. Bios have lower HP than WS, has to carry acid bomb bottles, countered by fcp or rsx +gr, only one homunculus work in this server, and since primarily an INT class, doesn't have that much seed carrying capacity since you also carry seeds and bottles. Seriously, you can only see either me, airi or enrique on bio then. A few months after that, landon arrived and used bio as well. Bios didn't get ANY sort of buff as a class, only the reducing of the price of bottles for acid bomb and a bit of an increase on the hp boost of tao gunka which I suggested and fought for. Nothing really changed on the bio class. But we see tons of people using the class now, even if the class isn't really as strong as snipers, stalkers, LK, and sinx. Why then people stopped using BIos as fcpers and are now using them as a pvp class? The class wasn't buffed in a decent way that made it appealing. Ernique was already known then to be a good bio. I saw him and thought it was fun so I made a bio and stick with it. A few months after that, came the halloween patch that made legendary weapons 80% of the valks. From then on, I built my bio to the extent that it is now. Then I released the bio guide here in the forums. At almost the same time I released the guide, Landon was getting recognition on in game due to him winning pvp ladder on bio. From then on, people started using bios again. I'm pretty sure a few GS can step up and do that as well. I suggest you guys start with a constructive suggestion in the forums on what to do to compensate that delay(I already did my part on that as you might remember Genesis increasing the delay cap after my suggestion). On top of my head, create stats for gunslinger shotgun, gatling gun, rifles and grenade launcher. If they are decent, I'll support it. What I want to say here is that, the class was nerfed for a reason. The graphics lag does not affect the gunslinger user on his screen, but it affects the other ones seeing him on their own screens. Increasing the delay is inevitable, as it affects everyone. GS is still far from being useless as people make them appear as such. The classes that needs buffs imo are wizards, soul linkers, taekwon rankers,and star gladiators(give them a weapon already).

It is balanced due to several things, most of it are already pointed out(strip cards, stave crasher). However, wizards are not really meant for 1v1 situations anyway. So you cannot put that into perspective. It is possible to pvp on a wizard, just a bit harder. If we disable the use of GTB, it would ruin the balance as Wizards and Profs do huge damage on high rate servers. Add the custom items we have as well.

Just pm me for questions. I cannot get on until after the holidays, which is early january. And by then, I can only go on weekends or around 9am server time.

Suggestion involves skill edits. I don't think it will be approved anyway.

Go the easy way: use Super Novice with 2x tao armor.

Just so that people know, I am an unoffical member of this guild, since I cannot go online until after the holidays. :)

everything else besides the vote king valk helm won't stack with the vote set.

Most of them only do cloak+desperado+spam seeds before the nerf. They dropped the class since they cannot do the "spam two buttons and win" tactic anymore.

Then you would need to use phree on the main hand dagger, which lowers your crit damage since you lose one damage card. Then you also have to put dex so your double attack would hit. Seriously doubt if it would yield decent results.

None yet, but I promised Alyxia to help her guild when I come back fully, probably during the holidays. I don't have the time to be in a woe or super serious guilds nowadays. Although if they ask me, I will help during BR or even mess around in Euro

Will not work if you put a dagger in the main hand, daggers makes the skill Double Attack proc, and that is a normal attack based skill. If you build your sinx on crit and uses Daggers, whenever the double attack occur, you will miss since you have no hit.

The idea came to me when I saw then new Drake coat, and its equivalent to blessed and cursed. We have to admit, some of the rings look better on certain characters, while the capes look better on some as well. Since we have Drake Blessed and Cursed that has the same look as the drake coat, but has the effect of rings, why not have it for the capes as well? I myself loved the look of the Infernal Capes on the character I normally use, which is Biochemist. When I made my cape into a blessed ring, I was a bit disappointed on the looks because the Infernal Cape simply fits the Biochemist sprite better than the blessed ring. The cursed ring would have been awesome looking on the bio too, but at the moment, the cursed ring is way behind the blessed one, and the Cape still looks more badass than either of them on a biochemist. So here is my suggestion, please create Infernal Cape equivalents of all the rings. Here is how I thought it: 1. Create an NPC to exchange the rings into an infernal cape with the stats of the ring. 2. It should only allow specific exchanges. If I exchange a Bio blessed ring, I can only get an infernal cape with the same stats of the bio blessed ring. 3. The npc should be allowed to this vice versa too.

That's the point of making blessed and cursed, so that it caters to a different build on each.

Awesome update!!! I now have something to get in the token shop, those drake jackets look cool. I'd get them for the cursed bio ring when they get buffed up. Cheers and Merry Christmas you guys.

Because the belts aren't updated when the loki's came out. You can try to suggest on lowering it, I myself would support it if that is the case.

Forums becomes active when: 1. Someone Flames someone 2. Friend of someone flame the one who flamed him 3. guilds starting to flame each other

Everytime a thread like this come up, a flame war begins. :D Do it in game people. If this thread includes EVERYONE, past and present, then I'll say any other gunslinger from back then when we don't have one handed guns would be a bit better than the people we have now, skill wise.

The server is not hosted in boston, so that is not a truly valid argument. I myself don't know where aki lives though, nor do i know his ping or his hardware. And cmon, even jeff gets called a hacker tons of times. It's no different really when you call aki a hacker as well. Without proof, those accusations mean nothing. And I see more people calling jeff a hacker than people calling aki a hacker. But then I know jeff don't really need to do it. My point here is, I haven't seen much of the gunslingers going pvp room. Most of them just go in fild and desperado spam on a bunch of people who are sitting.

^Off topic but: SUP LANDON!!! :D ill be on around next week and will ladder, see you there :) not all active people are active in the forums, sadly. :)

spam and warp, spam and warp. when i was at that time, i even used fly wings