supream

give them a chance. sure they might do alot of damage but once they get out there everyone will be back to doing the same. dont go for the saying "wtf, this stuff is op" until its been out for a while.

this wont work. u really need a video not ss of someone sprite editing.

i guess they changed it from what i saw last time.

some of those weapons cost 60, and the sin wep cost 100.

Arrow Strafe & sharp shooting +40% damage, Falcon Assault +15% damage, +15% hp, 1% chance of casting strip helm, weapon, shield, or armor Agi + 30, Dex + 30 Level 10 weight increase. also it is one handed. the only things i think need to be changed is pantasmic arrow piercing penuma and backslide and snap from traps. no hp weapon change or damage change looks to be necessary. also, like i said before, charge attack dosent close the gap in between me and the person it just knocks them back the same space. its used for getting people to walls. so when i charge attack you i wont be able to spiral pierce. Since u want never breaking traps, and charge attack is basically the same thing as backslide i wont be able to charge attack from the traps.

i dont think the coma works on the weapons yet. the attack on the lk weapon is 28 and the one on the elite is 100. i get more attack with the elite weapon and a little more damage with bb with it. is it suppose to be like this?

i dont think the coma works on the lk wep either. do any other weapons have slot problems besides the lk one?

disagree to both suggestions. we just fought so hard to get rid of woe kills count to ladder why bring it back?

nothing needs to be done to snipers now due to the new weapons.

lk weapon wont slot.

i vote fr number [3]. Killzone is a good shooting game. Also, with all of the shooting games and stuff out now, most of the sotw are just plane gun pictures. i would of imagined people using the animes or games to their advantage for this sotw. Since only ace did this he gets my vote.

idk about coma on clown weapon since tarot can already coma.

are the spears 2 handed? and is the sniper bow one handed? if not why should sniper bow be one handed and the gypsies should? o no the wieght of the spear is only 70. can this be fixed?

when you charged attack you wont go to the person so you can "bowling bash" them or "spiral pierce" them. it knocks them back so you can get them to walls. the space will stay the same between you and the person. and with your suggestion it will stop me from using it. since charge attack moves your sprite just like backslide. it will make it so they will start running. just trap then with the dagger on so then they can put on their weapon. 5% is alot just like 5 more stats. like you said yourself this topic is about snipers not clowns. ive beaten smeay with my sniper with a 2 handed bow. also i beaten bobo with a 2 handed bow on my sniper too. there are other ways then just spaming ds and trapping all over the place to win.

ok nines...... there not severly underpowered. i tested them pvped each class with them. the classes i seem to have a problem with are pallies clowns and champs. ive killed all other classes with it.

just use supreamus method of fighting. bb them in the head and dont let them get close.

magnum break breaking it is find as it is now. traps in woe dont break from one magnum break from someone who uses marine sphere card, only from lks and pallies. the traps know slows people down already. they go away so fast due to alot of people running on them. i can get 18-20k damage with ds and 23-24 focus arrow without 300 dex. if u spam super slow no damage will matter. focus arrow can hit to 50k per hit and ds can hit 45k as it is now on someone without shield. it needs a little boost not a sever one. its for stripping you guys want never breaking traps, shielded snipers with all ranged attacks with 260k hp from the tao and weapon, and people cant snap backslide or charge attack from the traps (charge attack has the same effect as if i were to backslide), and super reduces while you try and strip someone. is this what you guys really want to have happen?

i meant to say that a shield and knife wouldnt get a sniper obliterated. double straff is alot easier to spam then sonic blow. i dont know how u came up with that. im not disagreeing with all your suggestions just a few of them. i asked before about one handed bow it has been proven to be op. snipers on the iro server find a way to manage with all the other classes with a 2 handed bow, and sessions i showed u some stuff to get around all of that. you might say that clowns get to use shield, but their skill isnt spamable like ds or focus arrow.

spring trap is a skill only snipers can use and remove trap is only for stalkers and snipers. so just let them trap and shoot away and stop everyone in woe would be completely fair? yea they were on iro since double straff was mostly aspd based and snipers got faster aspd then clowns on iro. but here thats changed and with kiels aspd base dosent really matter anymore. also, you dont have to use double straff. mine dose about 18-20k on shields and focus arrow dose 23k-25k on shields and with 3 kiels it can be spamed. yea sure it can use a boost but not to 600%. i agree with this. its not easy to spam spring trap and move it. my sniper gets up to 240k-250k hp why dose it need more? they need 300k hp? there not that under powered that if they put on a knife and shield they would get obliterated. they do need a weight bonus on the knife tho. then why not make katar one handed since shield is a absolute need. when i played sniper didnt need shield to win. their not a tanking class. they are more a ranged attacking sin, which evades attacks with traps. if u trap enough and use the right skills you shouldnt get hit by melee classes.

i was talking about how you should be able to use skills to run away while still stuck in ankle snare. if you break the trap that would be ok(charge attack will still leave you stuck in ankle snare). a sniper cant say they dont want someone to run away when they themselves use a trap to run themselves. daggers for stalkers can be use for strip to. also, what if someone dose wear tao that will stack with that to. 5% can make a big difference in some cases. some of those elite rental weapons are op. people have suggested a one handed bow before and it was declared op. i dont know why its like that for the rental. they are suppose to be similar but slightly better then the elite. i dont know why this one is so far off. i wouldnt think of them to be balanced by simply using th elite bow. i wouldnt waist my money on it for something thats probably never going to be like the real one. a handed bow that gives that kind of buffs to my skills cant last forever. they do need a boost but i dont think it relies in their weapon. i was responding to what sessions said not you.

1.) agree and disagree. their damage isnt all the best and needs some improvement. disagree since why should snipers get special treatment when pandaring card only adds damage to stave crasher and not all magic attacks( you might think kingring card adds damage to all magic attacks but its only 3%, besides skeleton archer already adds damage to bow class weapons). 2.) agree with snap and backslide, disagree with magnum break. while champs and sinx might not be able to walk while in the traps even if they snap or backslide they can still run away by using that skill. if they cant walk they shouldnt be able to use skills to run away either. with magnum break if you break the traps then they will be able to move. you cant be a hypocrite by saying they shouldnt be able to run away while when snipers pvp and use traps, they use them to run away themselves. 3.)dont see any harm, fcp cures all of it. 4.) agree but if pouring gets changed then leave pouring the way it is. 5.)already agreed to it. 6)no hp boost not demi reduces. you can already get up to 80%(90 with combat knife) with all the other reduces why should snipers get more reduces? snipers already got a boost from tao and they have great hp as it is now. 7.)disagree. other elite weapons dont add damage with their skills. other classes are underpowered as well but dont receive any boost for a certain skill(s) with their elite weapon. also, same as before, snipers hp is good as it is now. 8.)disagree. if you really want the one handed sniper bow. just rent it from the rental npc. their not op, but their not severely underpowered either. played it and pawned at it.

yeah som that was until treadstone came and blew it away. no its not influ has held it for a long time before. so has legion and equilibrium(i think). i also think the euro woe days are to close together. if u win monday u get castle drops for 4 days while if you win friday you get it for 3 days. maybe if euro woe was thursday.

post number 1000 /gg wish granted but you dropped it and broke it trying to hoke it up. i wish for a free ps3 replacement since my disc drive broke after a year.

i agree with this. i die all the damn time fighting thanatos.

i vote for number [2] nines,because dragons are one of my favorite mythical creatures. Also, the greater detail he has compared to the others.