Unfair Thanatos Room System

[Spitfire]

this suggestion is from the new players i meet in FRO.

i use to invite alot of new people in FRO or Ragnarok in my guild and always advice them and teach them how to play.

in the process, they improve fast and enjoys the game.

we all know that thanatos is the most expensive card in FRO and my fellow guild mates wanna try or have a chance to challenge thanatos.

before you go inside you need to hunt thanatos key... but that's not even the problem here.. its about going inside...

*if you have noticed* the names on the screens that comes out or always defeats thanatos are the same people over and over again and the people who can't even go inside.

having a hard time going inside. has no chance at all.

not to mention the people who are waiting outside to go inside thanatos room are many.

don't you think it's about "TIME" to change *thanatos room system*?

IF CHANGED

good thing is everyone can try it which is good, everyone has a chance i mean..

make it a QUEST or SOMETHING so everyone can try it 1 AT A TIME.

and if it was a hard quest MAKE THANATOS CARD DROP RATE to 5% or something.

JUST LIKE CARDS DROP RATES DOWN!!! WHICH IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE

(MAKE THANATOS ROOM FOR EVERYONE TOO) ^_^

i'm really sure greedy people will go againts this. lol

Edited June 28, 2014 by Spitfire

[Bishop]

don't you think it's about "TIME" to change *thanatos room system*?

In my personal opinion, no. The thanatos room is fine as it is, you simply have to be prepared to enter it when it opens up, that's all. If we'd implement the things you suggested everyone would be having thanatos cards within no-time. Thanatos is a special mvp that can only be summoned at set time intervals. This is done for a reason. I think the thanatos room and the droprate increase on the card already made it a lot easier to get it so I disagree with making it even easier.

[jameslamela]

disagree as well...

[Aerofox]

I barely go to thana room entrance, but I know what happens during the last 10 minutes for the person inside the room.
Thus, I disagree. Thanatos Summon Room is fine already, you have to be fast and prepared.
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[Spitfire]

In my personal opinion, no. The thanatos room is fine as it is, you simply have to be prepared to enter it when it opens up, that's all. If we'd implement the things you suggested everyone would be having thanatos cards within no-time. Thanatos is a special mvp that can only be summoned at set time intervals. This is done for a reason. I think the thanatos room and the droprate increase on the card already made it a lot easier to get it so I disagree with making it even easier.

it's really not that easy to compete with clicking timing to get inside.

the QUEST or if CHANGE doesn't have to be so EASY let it be SO HARD but at the same time "everyone" can do it.

would be really nice XD

Edited June 28, 2014 by Spitfire

[qperteplex]

In my personal opinion, no. The thanatos room is fine as it is, you simply have to be prepared to enter it when it opens up, that's all. If we'd implement the things you suggested everyone would be having thanatos cards within no-time. Thanatos is a special mvp that can only be summoned at set time intervals. This is done for a reason. I think the thanatos room and the droprate increase on the card already made it a lot easier to get it so I disagree with making it even easier.

Can you also teach him how to make a proper suggestion?

This guy's method is as followed

1. Sweet talk GMs or others "I invite players to the server, I am a donator"

2. His suggestion

3. Praises or puts pro's in his suggestion

4. Then bashes people who oppose his suggestion*

*Can actually go inside his suggestion

[Spitfire]

I barely go to thana room entrance, but I know what happens during the last 10 minutes for the person inside the room.

Thus, I disagree. Thanatos Summon Room is fine already, you have to be fast and prepared.

-1

ok i have 3 disagreement now

thanks for your comments guys

Can you also teach him how to make a proper suggestion?

This guy's method is as followed

1. Sweet talk GMs or others "I invite players to the server, I am a donator"

2. His suggestion

3. Praises or puts pro's in his suggestion

4. Then bashes people who oppose his suggestion*

*Can actually go inside his suggestion

It's an opinion sir ^_^ there is no law againts it. *forum ftw* have a good day

thanks for your comments guys

Edited June 28, 2014 by Spitfire

[qperteplex]

ok i have 3 disagreement now

thanks for your comments guys

It's an opinion sir ^_^ there is no law againts it. *forum ftw* have a good day

thanks for your comments guys

What you replied doesn't make sense

Yes, you are free to give your opinion but can you not do what I stated? I agreed once to your opinion as I find it reasonable but what I didn't like is how you delivered it. Sugar coat for GM or others, inserts suggestion finishes with bashing people that just don't share his point of view and are not really as you implied "greedy"

[Spitfire]

What you replied doesn't make sense

Yes, you are free to give your opinion but can you not do what I stated? I agreed once to your opinion as I find it reasonable but what I didn't like is how you delivered it. Sugar coat for GM or others, inserts suggestion finishes with bashing people that just don't share his point of view and are not really as you implied "greedy"

LOL! i don't see anything bad to what i've been saying. it's the way i talk and you sir sounds like a person who has a grudge or something.

i'm only suggesting man chill, people are all different put that in mind, not to mention we live in different countries. i'm not even native american = maybe is has something to do with how i talk.

now let's enjoy the game. i heard the comments and respected what Moderator Bishop said truely ^_^. Case Close XD

RoK On!!

Edited June 28, 2014 by Spitfire

[yuyuyu80]

The buff on mvp card drops has already given the economy a very unstable trend (MVP card prices have WIDE ranges). That's well and good but soon enough, there will be more supply than demand. Thana being a rare commodity might give the economy some stability and some challenge if you will..if everyone has increased chances of getting this strong card, it won't be long til the server is broken.
In conclusion, i too am opposed to thana room changes.

[Rayray]

Can't the old way of summoning thana be used anymore? Sorry I cannot keep up with most updates. If that one can still be used, why not use that while waiting for the thana room to open or something?

[Aerofox]

Can't the old way of summoning thana be used anymore? Sorry I cannot keep up with most updates. If that one can still be used, why not use that while waiting for the thana room to open or something?

I'm kinda intrigued by this 'old way' of summoning. Out of curiousity, how does it work? xD

Edited June 28, 2014 by Aerofox

[ace_30]

way back 2008 every one is free to go to thana tower but also they can KS ur summon thana...so which is better thana room before or now if u are old player i guess u know wat i mean.. thanatos room now is good enough. u can kill thana with no hustle to other player. :)

[Aerofox]

way back 2008 every one is free to go to thana tower but also they can KS ur summon thana...so which is better thana room before or now if u are old player i guess u know wat i mean.. thanatos room now is good enough. u can kill thana with no hustle to other player. :)

That sounds like one hell of a hassle to get Thana. xD

[ChainBreak]

New Suggestion regarding Thanatos:

Change Thana room to have an automated dice event at the spawn intervall. The winner of the dice event gets to kill thana for the usual 1% drop chance instead of the etoks.

Or if you want to add some difficulty to it. Make it a party dice event(I'll explain this below) and add a raid between the dice and the thanatos.

Party dice event:

Only the partyleader participates in the event and gets warped to a map similar to etower which then only members of the party can enter. On that map there'll be the portal to the raid/ to thana.

[Forum~]

New Suggestion regarding Thanatos:

Change Thana room to have an automated dice event at the spawn intervall. The winner of the dice event gets to kill thana for the usual 1% drop chance instead of the etoks.

Or if you want to add some difficulty to it. Make it a party dice event(I'll explain this below) and add a raid between the dice and the thanatos.

Party dice event:

Only the partyleader participates in the event and gets warped to a map similar to etower which then only members of the party can enter. On that map there'll be the portal to the raid/ to thana.

Mfw my brother and I bring a total of 12 clients into dice.

There should be a cap of one kill per IP per day. That'll give a variety of people a shot at Thanatos every day.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Forum~

[qperteplex]

LOL! i don't see anything bad to what i've been saying. it's the way i talk and you sir sounds like a person who has a grudge or something.

i'm only suggesting man chill, people are all different put that in mind, not to mention we live in different countries. i'm not even native american = maybe is has something to do with how i talk.

now let's enjoy the game. i heard the comments and respected what Moderator Bishop said truely ^_^. Case Close XD

RoK On!!

You don't see anything wrong with what you said yet you apologized how you acted in your previous topic to the point of deleting one of your post. I am merely implying you improve on how you suggest. I don't need to retype how you make your suggestions as I have typed it twice already and you still don't get it. If you still don't, I pity you.

On topic:

I prefer the IP limit suggestion, upto 3 seems fair. Thana is also at a considerable price 4-5kish where it used to be 10k when I started and was still making use of the old quest.

[Rayray]

way back 2008 every one is free to go to thana tower but also they can KS ur summon thana...so which is better thana room before or now if u are old player i guess u know wat i mean.. thanatos room now is good enough. u can kill thana with no hustle to other player. :)

They can't KS it since you summon it. You can just screen every step of putting the fragments, and if someone KSes you and they get the card, you report and the GM team will give you the card.

I prefer that over waiting and doing nothing at all.

[calvinckm]

:th_e27: :th_e27: srrly this is just only a discussion. Some how grammar teacher or i should say format standard master pop out of no way.

1. First to comment about the suggestion and providing own opinion is ok, this is a free forum

2. But there is a catch here, PLS do understand we had the same equal right to speck and comment.

3. This which lead us to third, you don't really have the right to comment or correct others format of writing(THIS IS AN ADMIN WORK).

4. And last part is PLS do get the AUTHORIZATION if you wan to perform any admin job thanks you (PLS DO GET AUTHORIZATION FROM ADMIN).

With respect PLS be reminder all forum user need to obey the forum rules<--

Harassment
The harassment of or personal attacks on other players is forbidden. This includes the discussion and/or distribution of any personal or private information or pictures as well as slandering/defaming/spreading rumors about another player. Repeatedly targeting a specific player or persons will lead to more severe punishment.

:th_ok: :th_ok: Some of you are starting to using word like If you still don't, I pity you :th_e20: . Which directly trying to redirect the focus of user toward someone.Which what i think is improper and not so friendly in sense of word selection as a comment.

You don't see anything wrong with what you said yet you apologized how you acted in your previous topic to the point of deleting one of your post. I am merely implying you improve on how you suggest. I don't need to retype how you make your suggestions as I have typed it twice already and you still don't get it. If you still don't, I pity you.

On topic:

I prefer the IP limit suggestion, upto 3 seems fair. Thana is also at a considerable price 4-5kish where it used to be 10k when I started and was still making use of the old quest.

IP Limitation should be done as you said, i can observe time to time during the weekend same person coming in and out of thana room which give other no chance to try inside.

Edited June 30, 2014 by calvinckm

[qperteplex]

:th_e27: :th_e27: srrly this is just only a discussion. Some how grammar teacher or i should say format standard master pop out of no way.

1. First to comment about the suggestion and providing own opinion is ok, this is a free forum

2. But there is a catch here, PLS do understand we had the same equal right to speck and comment.

3. This which lead us to third, you don't really have the right to comment or correct others format of writing(THIS IS AN ADMIN WORK).

4. And last part is PLS do get the AUTHORIZATION if you wan to perform any admin job thanks you (PLS DO GET AUTHORIZATION FROM ADMIN).

With respect PLS be reminder all forum user need to obey the forum rules<--

Harassment

The harassment of or personal attacks on other players is forbidden. This includes the discussion and/or distribution of any personal or private information or pictures as well as slandering/defaming/spreading rumors about another player. Repeatedly targeting a specific player or persons will lead to more severe punishment.

:th_ok: :th_ok: Some of you are starting to using word like If you still don't, I pity you :th_e20: . Which directly trying to redirect the focus of user toward someone.Which what i think is improper and not so friendly in sense of word selection as a comment.

IP Limitation should be done as you said, i can observe time to time during the weekend same person coming in and out of thana room which give other no chance to try inside.

I believe you are referring to me. A major correction on what you have just said. I am NOT correcting his GRAMMAR, I am merely stating that how he opens up his suggestions are totally uncalled for. Alot of suggestions went through without a starting line to KISS GM A** like "Im a donator" or what he used now as "I invite players into the server." I got a few suggestions added already and I am a non-donator nor have I invited my IRL friends over. Also as you said with the Harassment line let me quote something that he said.

i'm really sure greedy people will go againts this. lol

He didn't have to say something like that as some people have a different point of view rather than judging all that would oppose his suggestion is one of those "greedy" people. I am annoyed by how he opens his opinions he should act more mature than that. And you may be thinking if I'm one of those "greedy" people who MVP hunts or sticks to thana room. I AM NOT. I sit in my spot mostly AFK(fcity 117 95) or playing clash of clans(FTW) while AFK.

As I have also implied that I agreed to one of his suggestions as I find it considerate, it is regarding the @go 15 PK map in case you are wondering. And if you read through it, you would see how childish and how immature he acted by blasting other people with unnecessary language.

And if you think what I am doing is harassing him, you are dead wrong. All I'm doing is trying to make the forum a civilized place. And if you or him disagree to that, I welcome you to file a ticket and get me suspended from the forums. Also, if I were gonna correct his grammar as you earlier stated, you also need some help. I'm not american BTW

Enough of this and proceed with the topic, unless you or him have something else to say about what I said?

[calvinckm]

Srrly i did not mention you on my comment.

I don't not deny or admit any of my comment is pointing toward you sir Holy Priest because i did not really stated or mention any name there.

So if you wan to point you finger against me, PLS do prove that my word or term is some how referring to you as in my comment. :th_e14: :th_e14:

Spitfire, on 28 Jun 2014 - 6:56 PM, said:

i'm really sure greedy people will go againts this. lol

This is part of the comment, which lead me no way of judge as i can't see the whole picture nor the original tread. So PLS do reference me to the original tread, so we can discuss more on this :th_ok: :th_ok: . NO only him should be aware, judging other base on self perception. BUT like i said this is a free forum, we need people to stand up to speck up, so there is no right or wrong as this is a friendly discussion.

[Forum~]

:th_e27: :th_e27: srrly this is just only a discussion. Some how grammar teacher or i should say format standard master pop out of no way.

1. First to comment about the suggestion and providing own opinion is ok, this is a free forum

2. But there is a catch here, PLS do understand we had the same equal right to speck and comment.

3. This which lead us to third, you don't really have the right to comment or correct others format of writing(THIS IS AN ADMIN WORK).

4. And last part is PLS do get the AUTHORIZATION if you wan to perform any admin job thanks you (PLS DO GET AUTHORIZATION FROM ADMIN).

From where are you making up these rules? Yes, you can say what you want as long as it conforms to forum policy but do understand that proper English makes it easier for participants to get a hold of what you're trying to say. Incorrect "grammar" or "formatting", as you state, often leads to misunderstandings. Also, it's a lot easier to take you seriously if you're creating an intelligible argument as opposed to fallacious gibberish.

IP Limitation should be done as you said, i can observe time to time during the weekend same person coming in and out of thana room which give other no chance to try inside.

I alway see the same rotation of people going in-and-out of Thanatos room. I'm still sticking with my "1 per IP per day" stance. Edited June 30, 2014 by Forum~

[qperteplex]

Srrly i did not mention you on my comment.

Now, you are obviously dodging me as my reply to you has proven you wrong

So if you wan to point you finger against me, PLS do prove that my word or term is some how referring to you as in my comment. :th_e14: :th_e14:

How is your comment referring to me. Lets look at the facts here.

1. At the point wherein I replied to your comment, me and the thread starter are the only ones discussing his manner of posting and commenting, then you came along. You see anyone else talk negative about his manner?

2. You quoted and even put in bold my "I pity you" line

3. You quoted a whole line of what I said which includes the thread starters behavior

I laughed at your no.4 rule. So we are just gonna let players use uncalled for language when initially it is stated in the rules? I'm doing him a favor of cleaning up his act as it would seem his forum life here wont last as I have seen his posts always end up indirectly targeting people. Refer to his recent post http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28732&page=2 namely on page 2. He has more of posted topics that show his behavior in the forums.

[calvinckm]

From where are you making up these rules? Yes, you can say what you want as long as it conforms to forum policy but do understand that proper English makes it easier for participants to get a hold of what you're trying to say. Incorrect "grammar" or "formatting", as you state, often leads to misunderstandings. Also, it's a lot easier to take you seriously if you're creating an intelligible argument as opposed to fallacious gibberish.

I alway see the same rotation of people going in-and-out of Thanatos room. I'm still sticking with my "1 per IP per day" stance.

The rules state in the forum itself.I was fitting in as some of us possible does not compile as accordingly to some of the subsection with some poor word selection. Multi definition term tend to misleading or missuses by other, i am just state the grey area of the rules and using it as a complain. Or you might refer me as a misunderstand about you expression you as some people had poor choice of term as reply. But good choice of word as i can't find any multi definition term where i can explore as grey spot.

Now, you are obviously dodging me as my reply to you has proven you wrong

How is your comment referring to me. Lets look at the facts here.

1. At the point wherein I replied to your comment, me and the thread starter are the only ones discussing his manner of posting and commenting, then you came along. You see anyone else talk negative about his manner?

2. You quoted and even put in bold my "I pity you" line

3. You quoted a whole line of what I said which includes the thread starters behavior

I laughed at your no.4 rule. So we are just gonna let players use uncalled for language when initially it is stated in the rules? I'm doing him a favor of cleaning up his act as it would seem his forum life here wont last as I have seen his posts always end up indirectly targeting people. Refer to his recent post http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28732&page=2 namely on page 2. He has more of posted topics that show his behavior in the forums.

Hmm i am not dodging you mate, just that i does not admit or deny i am mention you as in my comment. So pls do prove that my comment referring to you as in person. Having part of the sentence is can't hard do any prove as "I pity you" might be an example that i need to enhance my point only.

BOTH of for 1 thing i am sure PLS do reply cause i am here to discuss :th_ok: :th_ok:

[Lenneth]

I do agree with Trans that to facility robust discussions in suggestion threads, we should avoid bashing ppl who are likely to voice different opinons. So ending your post with unnecessary comments like "only greedy ppl will disagree" or "only selfish ppl who are concerned with their own interests will disagree" etc. is really uncalled for.

As for Thana Room, i kind of like the dice idea Noi suggested. How about giving 5 secs for all players who are interested to hunt thana to enter a waiting room, and the system randomly picks one to go into the actual thana room? the usual fragment requirement applies to all who wants to enter the waiting room.

Edited July 1, 2014 by Lenneth