Anti-Warper Suggestion And A Shout-Out To Trash Talkers

[mutilixus]

I have observed that many players are BC-ing about "noob"(I Quote-Unquote) players who are hitting then warping on for_fild01 (PVP area) also, I have seen bot users before(mostly wizards) who are warping then using Storm Gust then warping again. So I have come up with a suggestion of giving @warp command and flywing a cooldown or maybe a delay on fields and dungeons and maybe disabling it on the PVP area. This will get rid of the cowardly move called Hit-n-Run, and this will also give a big impact on our PVP area, no more warpers means a fair fight. Maybe, transform the PVP area into a WoE/KoE/LMS like effect, NO WARPING, and once the player die, he/she will be automatically warped into their respective save points, not only that we will prevent hit-n-run, we will also prevent after-death trash talks...

A Shout-Out to my fellow players,

Please don't use the BC as a trash talking medium, you're not the only ones online so be sensitive, not only that you are showing that you have no manners, you are also breaking the in-game rules which I will quote from the rules thread w/c was posted by [GM]Genesis. [http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=16]

• Language
  Any use of language that is abusive, threatening, defamatory, vulgar, sexually explicit, obscene or racially/ethnically offensive is not allowed. This applies to both explicit and implicit language, images, and/or links to other websites.
• Harassment
  The harassment of or personal attacks on other players is forbidden. This includes the discussion and/or distribution of any personal or private information or pictures as well as slandering/defaming/spreading rumors about another player. Repeatedly targeting a specific player or persons will lead to more severe punishment.
• Respect (you must respect others and their rights to enjoy the forums and game play)
  This is an extension of the rules prohibiting harassment and certain types of language. Even if a player is not explicitly breaching any aforementioned rules, any form of disrespect to other players and staff will not be tolerated. Disrespecting and/or patronizing new players or posters is discouraged. Please note that depending on the severity of the offense, such actions may result in punishment. Continual offenses against new players will not go unpunished.

If can't really help talking trash to one another, just PM each other or make a pub for the two of you or better yet, do it on an empty map... not in via BC... you should know that some players doesn't care if you killed a guy over and over, or if you are strong or whatever the heck you are bragging about... wanna know why? Because it's non-sense... and practically annoying, if you have nothing to do with your zeny, why not donate it to others for a greater purpose? Like the ones who use BC as a marketing tool, w/c btw is being affected when someone is using BC as a bragging tool(specially when spamming BC or having series of bragging and trash talking conversations using the BC), you are defeating the purpose of the BC and you are abusing the "Off-Topic" option...

That would be all thank you...

Edited November 11, 2013 by mutilixus

[Taltin]

i dont know why no one goes into the pvp rooms... because they cant warp away when its too dangerous?

how about an delay of 10-30 seconds to warp when u get attacked?

[Procastinate]

For BC Abuse +1

But for the warp, if you want to PVP without warping out you can simply go to the PvP room plus all your efforts are credited in there. and i think that in some dungeons warping is the most effective way to find an MVP fast, and the same is true for questing fast. For the bots that are using this for farming there is an anti-Bot system thats already working and so far it had neutralized bot users.as for the PvP area in for fild you can make it like the timer when you reconnect maybe 5s cool-down after taking the hit would be fine.

[nilo16]

+1

10 sec delay to warping or DC on entering combat( hitting/ getting hit)

Would be perfect

[Endyuransu]

how about an delay of 10-30 seconds to warp when u get attacked?

5-10 secs would be enough, +1 for this

i hate to see this PvP players who warp out of any dangerous situation

[Taltin]

But for the warp, if you want to PVP without warping out you can simply go to the PvP room plus all your efforts are credited in there.

yeah u can go to the empty pvp rooms where no one is and wait 5h because nobody go in there cause they cant warp away /no1 lol

and i think that in some dungeons warping is the most effective way to find an MVP fast, and the same is true for questing fast.

its about

players who are hitting then warping on for_fild01

not on MvP or questing maps....

[Endyuransu]

its about

players who are hitting then warping on for_fild01

not on MvP or questing maps....

^

this

no one talks about mvp hunting or quest farming maps, we talk about the PvP map (for_fild01)

For BC Abuse +1

this means ure a warper on for_fild01 isnt it, heh?

i see a many people who warp away, just a example assa X vs champ -> assa X got root -> warp to coordination -> hit again -> root -> warp to coords -> etc

its just noobish too warp away if u dont win, just take a loose or dont go to the PvP map

if u dont want to be called a noob just dont abuse the warp command on a pvp field

just a noob get called noob

Edited November 12, 2013 by Endyuransu

[Procastinate]

not on MvP or questing maps....

^

this

no one talks about mvp hunting or quest farming maps, we talk about the PvP map (for_fild01)

this means ure a warper on for_fild01 isnt it, heh?

i see a many people who warp away, just a example assa X vs champ -> assa X got root -> warp to coordination -> hit again -> root -> warp to coords -> etc

its just noobish too warp away if u dont win, just take a loose or dont go to the PvP map

if u dont want to be called a noob just dont abuse the warp command on a pvp field

just a noob get called noob

Im really sorry you see. IM A TOTAL NOOB AT THIS GAME AND I DONT KNOW HOW IT WORKS!

Can you please read the suggestion above PROPERLY? HE ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT BOTS!!! and Dungeons in which if we expand will lead to MvPs and QUESTING!

and for your sake you can call me NOOB Newbie if you want cause i really am! Im just placing my inputs here to this Suggestion and for you. PLEASE READ ALL STATEMENTS PROPERLY BEFORE REACTING!

Edited November 12, 2013 by Procastinate

[Rayray]

For BC Abuse +1

But for the warp, if you want to PVP without warping out you can simply go to the PvP room plus all your efforts are credited in there. and i think that in some dungeons warping is the most effective way to find an MVP fast, and the same is true for questing fast. For the bots that are using this for farming there is an anti-Bot system thats already working and so far it had neutralized bot users.as for the PvP area in for fild you can make it like the timer when you reconnect maybe 5s cool-down after taking the hit would be fine.

We cannot simply say "go to pvp room" because no one goes in it. If we want to pvp, we HAVE to go to for_fild at the moment.

We used to have warping delays, I was fine with it but people complained to no end with the excuse of not being able to farm.

[jameslamela]

if your enemy in for_fild01 warp out to escape the battle. consider him lost coz he cant beat you head to head. you dont have to kill someone just to prove that you win over him right...? if he rans away, then thats it you win. :) and regarding verbal abuse you can always file a ticket provided with the actual screenshot. GMs will not hesitate to make an action.

-1 on putting warp delay on for_fild01 coz we have poring catcher event that most newbie loved to play. they need to warp and warp to find that poring fast and to escape other compitor that is much geard compare to them.

i dont really mind if the 5-10 secs cooldown in warping when being hit will be implemented. im cool with that also.

[Bishop]

Adding a delay to warping while being hit won't stop warp abuse. The whole purpose of the warp abuse is abusing the few seconds of immunity you get after warping. For example, storm gust wizards would still be able to warp ->storm gust-> warp again. If you put a delay on warp while being hit that is.

[mutilixus]

Hi fRO-rum! I have read the replies and this are my reactions to some of it :D

if your enemy in for_fild01 warp out to escape the battle. consider him lost coz he cant beat you head to head. you dont have to kill someone just to prove that you win over him right...? if he rans away, then thats it you win. :)

it's not about who wins and who looses, it's what the victimed player feels... don't tell me you won't be annoyed if all of a sudden a random player poofed out of nowhere and killed you while you are fighting another player. Worse is when you aren't given the chance to fight back because the random player who killed you poofed away again...

regarding verbal abuse you can always file a ticket provided with the actual screenshot. GMs will not hesitate to make an action.

yea, we can do that, specially when you are the player being trash talked... BUT... what if the two players are trash talking each other... they don't even think of reporting one another because they are both talking trash... and also, it's not only the Trash Talk that annoys most of the players, even to those who are not involved... it's the flood they make when they make conversations via BC... not only that they don't get what the players are talking about(especially when they use unfamiliar language) they also flood out important BCs like Selling, Trading, and Buying...

-1 on putting warp delay on for_fild01 coz we have poring catcher event that most newbie loved to play. they need to warp and warp to find that poring fast and to escape other compitor that is much geard compare to them.

we can always move the poring catcher to another map...a non-PK field is the best option...because of for_fild01 being the PVP area... newbies, not only the low levels but also leeched /boosted players w/c are ungeared who participate to the poring event are easily killed by geared players who are trippin' during the event. So maybe moving to a non-PK map was better...

anyway, thanks for your feedback :D same goes to everyone.

Adding a delay to warping while being hit won't stop warp abuse. The whole purpose of the warp abuse is abusing the few seconds of immunity you get after warping. For example, storm gust wizards would still be able to warp ->storm gust-> warp again. If you put a delay on warp while being hit that is.

So in short... the @warp command in fild01 should be disabled then :D.... hmmm is it possible that @warp command will be disabled but the @go command will still be available? So that the players don't have to recon just to go back to the city. Thanks

For BC Abuse +1

But for the warp, if you want to PVP without warping out you can simply go to the PvP room plus all your efforts are credited in there. and i think that in some dungeons warping is the most effective way to find an MVP fast, and the same is true for questing fast. For the bots that are using this for farming there is an anti-Bot system thats already working and so far it had neutralized bot users.as for the PvP area in for fild you can make it like the timer when you reconnect maybe 5s cool-down after taking the hit would be fine.

hmmm is it possible to put the arena on fild01? Since most of the players don't go to the PvP Room because they need to recon just to get out w/c prevents them from getting Activity tokens... hmmm... yea! I think that was good... that way, Party won't be allowed on the fild... meaning... no devo, less ganging...(hehe, just a wild idea...so don't get mad if u'r against this idea)

that would be all... Thank You ALL for sharing a piece of your mind about this matter...

[nilo16]

I think giving 10 sec on entering combat meaning if u hit some on or if u got hit would stop ppl from hit and warp

I don't think u can just sg warp sg warp either if ur sg hit another player/ monster u wil have to wait 10 sec before warping.

Again this is mainly for the pvp map.

Problem of pvp room is simply... Fcp is hard to have and maintain.

So it no use staying there.pvp without fcp is just not worth. Plus no real reward for being in pvp room And spending time thr.

[Norse_Joog]

I think the PVP map ( for_fild01 ) is free map for all PVP players so I think its natural for players to WARP again and again as part of their strategy, and why you guys are annoyed with it since even if they use that kind of tactics, they don't get anything or earn anything with it. It's different from the PVP room anyway. I use to PVP before when I was playing champ I encountered warpers too, usually Wizards But I find it more challenging than being annoyed. Imagine catching a warper with your very own set of skills, that's way too challenging and if players keep warping then they only prove their selves that they are not at your level. So need to "thrash talk" or use the BC to satisfy your emotions since its proven already which is superior between you and your opponent. Just relax and let them realize what they are compared to you.

Edited November 13, 2013 by Norse_Joog

[nilo16]

Its a map for pvp , warping every sec with no cost sucks its ok if u wanna use that strategy just use teleport clip ,.

Warp command is not the way for it. Cause when some on can just warp every time they are loseing without any effort , pvp becomes less fun.

Yes they can still do it using to clip or use cloak/ speed pots 10 sec kite .

Its kinda pointless when ppl take coordinates and keep warping in to hit one spell/skill.

that's not a real strategy but abuse of a loophole in the system that needs fixing

[mutilixus]

hi, :D wow, I'm seeing alot of ppl getting active on fRO-rum now~

I think the PVP map ( for_fild01 ) is free map for all PVP players so I think its natural for players to WARP again and again as part of their strategy, and why you guys are annoyed with it since even if they use that kind of tactics, they don't get anything or earn anything with it. It's different from the PVP room anyway. I use to PVP before when I was playing champ I encountered warpers too, usually Wizards But I find it more challenging than being annoyed. Imagine catching a warper with your very own set of skills, that's way too challenging and if players keep warping then they only prove their selves that they are not at your level. So need to "thrash talk" or use the BC to satisfy your emotions since its proven already which is superior between you and your opponent. Just relax and let them realize what they are compared to you.

hmmm...first things first, yea the fild01 was a free for all PVP map...meaning you are free to kill anybody on sight, but as what [GM]Bishop says, warpers get a few seconds of immunity after warping in to an area, that time would be enough for them to cast asura/storm gust or any skills since the server offers a 150dex no cast ability...so it would be nearly impossible for you to kill them specially when it warps right after he launched an attack. Also, when you say "warpers" it's not only the warp~>hit~>warp style... but also some players use it as a last resort of escape. For example, you are a SinX, you are fighting head to head with another player, let's say another SinX... you two are evenly matched... you're fighting each other for minutes then your opponent started running, you chased him and then he warped back to the city... not only that you wasted time, but also wasted EDP and Seeds/Berries, your hand might be hurting because you are spamming SB all throughout the fight...

About the "So need to "trash talk"...opponent" part... i kinda don't get it... Correct me if I'm wrong but... is the "So" supposed to be a "No"? *apologies for the grammar nazi attitude*

But nonetheless, I am thankful for your opinion :D

[Norse_Joog]

About the "So need to "trash talk"...opponent" part... i kinda don't get it... Correct me if I'm wrong but... is the "So" supposed to be a "No"? *apologies for the grammar nazi attitude*

But nonetheless, I am thankful for your opinion :D

thanks for the correction bro ^^ and sorry about that

If this suggestion would be agreed , then I think it's the immunity in few secs should be the one removed if possible not the warping ability coz someone might one to warp back FCITY but he/she got carried away by a battle, so how can he/she warp back then?

[nilo16]

U can warp back in 10 sec after the battle

.. I don't think it possible to remove immunity cause that part of the warp skill

but its more important that warp is not used as a skill for pvp cause its just terrible ..

If u wanna fight u need to ensure atleat 10 sec of combat where we can have a reasonable fight u can try run

And stay away for 10 sec and warp out also