Leo `D Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) I haven't think about the stats. you decide to the stats give some suggestion. Thanks Forsaken Dagger Stats 5% Damage vs Demi-Human 5 Str 5 Agi 10 Int 10% Sp Level 4 Weapon 90 Atk Suggested to 10% Damage vs Demi-Human (Removed due to does not Stack to 2 FBH card 100% Damage to Demi-Human) 5% Damge vs Medium/Small (Reduce from 10%) 10 Str 10 Agi 15 Int 10% Sp 50 Hit Level 4 Weapon 100 Atk Decide guys and comment to its changes? Edit: Stats Edited November 23, 2012 by Leo `D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I support this suggestion 101%. not all sinx like the crit build (I know I don't). It would be nice if there is a legendary dagger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterneil Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I love crit~ All I know is : Luk enough until 100 crit Str 270-300 Aspd 195 Rest vit :))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 we all know how to go crit, and me and cookie was the one commenting on your thread when you asked for it before remember. i dunno, i just like dual daggers more than crit. and it will be nice if we have legendary daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 not all Strategy can do for Crit i like Dagger most but its very far from other Legendary and Valk Dagger has a great DPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 not to mention that you dont need a buttload of agi to get 195 aspd on dual daggers. also, you cannot use thanatos card on crit. right now i have to use fdagger+ legendary blade as an offhand just to deal decent damage without going overboard on str. it will really be nice if we can have legendary dagger as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerynth Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I would definitely love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracity Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 If you guys want it added, please suggest effects. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hmm why not take the stats of the fdagger and just add more to it? ill get to it once i get off work. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 I Added the stats comment if you want some changes to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Seems good leo, although if possible id say. 15str, 15 agi , 15 int , 15% sp, 120 attack. but if it seems too much, what leo is good already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Ughmm its suppose to be 80% but there is no Original Valk Dagger :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 yeah my thoughts exactly. it needs certain boosts since dagger is penalized already in terms of damage due to size( it damages less to medium size monsters, including players, compare to swords).so if we do have a legendary dagger, it should be a little on par with the swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerynth Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I like what Ray suggested, except, I rather see 10% more damage on small and medium monster. Demi Human doesn't stack well since everyone is using 2 Fallen Bishop Hibram. The stats aren't as great of a boost than crit, but would put dagger close to par with Crit Sword. Edited November 22, 2012 by Aerynth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 ^ oh yeah, 100% is the maximum we can get since almost everyone uses 2x fbh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamm01 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 yah, i want a dual dagger build, not a crit build...:'( oh and how about the dex sword that has + ~100 hit?LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 ok lets see how about to partner with all sinx weapon? See changes on the dagger suggestion :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 ^ that seems good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 :D ok. any suggestion? GM Veracity please review it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 A lot of other classes also have the demi human effect on their weapon while they use double fbh most of the time as well. I think it would be rather unfair to change it for just 1 job then. Also getting it 'on par' with swords stat/atk wise would make the dagger way stronger than swords due to less agi needed for aspd and the double attack procs. With the current stats I personally disagree. Only reason being is that the above dagger is far better than Loki's blade. Which is a Valk weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 well, the other weapons dont have size penalty in terms of damage. daggers damage less on medium monsters compared to small(if im not mistaken, it's 100% small, 75% medium, 50% large). if it was too much, then ill suggest it to be just 2x better than fdagger at the very least. How about this stats? 5% Damge vs Medium/Small 10 Str 10 Agi 15 Int 10% Sp Level 4 Weapon 100 Atk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerynth Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 15 str. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 so what now? ill be changing the stat given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 well, the other weapons dont have size penalty in terms of damage. daggers damage less on medium monsters compared to small(if im not mistaken, it's 100% small, 75% medium, 50% large). The size penalty with weapon type only pertains to the base attack of the weapon. Therefore, in your case, the base weapon attack is 100 and it will be reduced to 75. This is a very small penalty on such a high rate server here, but if you are so concerned about it, why don't you give the dagger the same effect as a drake card? Easy solution. And regarding other weapons that do have a size penalty, two-handed swords, axes, and fists also suffer from the same size penalty. I'm not too familiar with the donation and legendary weapons here, but I'm sure that there is a donation/legendary fist that suffers from the same penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo `D Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I think Drake card is only to maintain the damage on every size of monster it doesn't give additional damage to monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
