junie2 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 Well, I think its fair if you would add tokens as entrance fees on MVP room. I said Its fair because teh renter for speed and seed room accept both tokens and zennies. In conclusion, i think it is only fair to add tokens as entrance fees on MVP rooms. Well, On the other hand, if you dont want to add tokens as entrance fees on mvp rooms you might as well add an npc that converts token to zeny. /no1 1
mikeredh24 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 this is what i was suppose to suggest just now XD haha +1 to this,
junie2 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 It is Fair right? Because i have noticed that bot char went up and 1b zeny became 45-50 toks. -_- :th_e30:
gennova Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 I do agree Many people try to using bot cause the the need and the price of zeny rising.
mikeredh24 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 exactly, and to the fact that GMs are busy , they wont be able to track down all those bot users out there. price of zeny rising=price of the cards you'll get inside the Rooms would still be high. win win for the bot users.
ThePerfectHit Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 This title mislead me. In case you didn't know here's the definition of Nerf: To make worse or weaken, usually in the context of weakening something in order to balance out a game.
junie2 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 my bad. I stand corrected. But that is the thing, to make things intruiging that makes you open the thread. lmao :th_ok:
Forum~ Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Well, I think its fair if you would add tokens as entrance fees on MVP room. I said Its fair because teh renter for speed and seed room accept both tokens and zennies. In conclusion, i think it is only fair to add tokens as entrance fees on MVP rooms.Aren't we trying to make it easier for new players to access MVP rooms? How does adding a token fee accomplish this? Well, On the other hand, if you dont want to add tokens as entrance fees on mvp rooms you might as well add an npc that converts token to zeny.We'll never have a token to zeny or vice versa converter. That'll set a fixed standard on value, something that should be determined by the free market. Edited June 27, 2014 by Forum~
jameslamela Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 agree on the topic suggested topic above...
Aerofox Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 The title shocked me quite hard, but when I read the contents, it went away. xD+1 for the token entry idea. love it
junie2 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Aren't we trying to make it easier for new players to access MVP rooms? How does adding a token fee accomplish this? We'll never have a token to zeny or vice versa converter. That'll set a fixed standard on value, something that should be determined by the free market. yes, we are trying to make newbie easily acces teh MVP rooms. what i am saying is, this suggestion is to stabilize teh NPCs for everybody. Ask yourself, Aren't we trying to make it easier for new players to access the SEED and SPEED Room. Another thing is, I am trying to point out that the economy for token to zeny, which is normally 25m = 1 tok, is starting to de-stabilize. other players are taking undue advantage of this situation. Well, if you are concerd about newbies unable to enter teh mvp rooms, i am just suggesting that they ADD the token option as an entrance to the MVP rooms. adding teh said option does not mean that they should be removing the 60m per summon thingie. I have not mentioned so as to how many token should they put in teh summoning. ===== Yes. Agreed. If it is standard not to put an NPC Converter then so be it. this is just mere suggestion. :th_ok: Edited June 27, 2014 by junie2
Captain Obvious Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 I disagree on having tokens as an option for summoning... people with lot of tokens can just camp the mvp room. It can also trigger deflation instead of stabilizing the economy. Summoning can be limited with the use of zeny. I was also thinking about the NPC token to zeny converter, but then again it will just benefit the geared people only... thus mvp rooms can be camped. Overall, I think summoning with zeny only is for the best...the only problem is that the botters will benefit the most so GMs should be more vigilant. 1
junie2 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 I disagree on having tokens as an option for summoning... people with lot of tokens can just camp the mvp room. It can also trigger deflation instead of stabilizing the economy. Summoning can be limited with the use of zeny. I was also thinking about the NPC token to zeny converter, but then again it will just benefit the geared people only... thus mvp rooms can be camped. Overall, I think summoning with zeny only is for the best...the only problem is that the botters will benefit the most so GMs should be more vigilant. Camping? Don't worry chief, I think the MVP rooms have their fair use policy that prevents them from using it for every 15mins. So it is fair for everybody. Second, why would a geared player rather spend tons of tokens in the MVP room taking the chance when he can just buy a card to a seller. Next, if camping is a concern why would a geared player would not camp the seed and speed room that offers both tokens and Zeny as an entrance fee. I am making sense? Lol. On contrary, there are newbies that can afford buying from the tokenshop and there are other who do not. I think this suggestion would bring the inflation rate of token to Zeny to a halt.
Captain Obvious Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Camping? Don't worry chief, I think the MVP rooms have their fair use policy that prevents them from using it for every 15mins. So it is fair for everybody. Except ppl use alts just like they do on thana room. Second, why would a geared player rather spend tons of tokens in the MVP room taking the chance when he can just buy a card to a seller. Don't underestimate human greed, some mvp hunters will still try to monopolize it if tokens can be used to summon. if camping is a concern why would a geared player would not camp the seed and speed room that offers both tokens and Zeny as an entrance fee. I am making sense? Lol. Seed and speed pots doesn't really give you much profit and its boring. I think this suggestion would bring the inflation rate of token to Zeny to a halt. No one buys ridiculous rate of zeny to toks unless they're pretty dumb. Newbies can farm zeny so they can summon... most geared ppl will be too lazy to do it.
junie2 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 I am very well informed. This topic is still open for criticism though. /no1
arch Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 This would be more advantageous towards the rich people.. I can just bring 2k+ tokens into the mvp room... get 100+ cards.. and sell the kiels and tao gunka cards (this will also deflate prices).. this will only make the rich people richer. On the other hand, we can only kill a fewer amount of mvps with just zeny (16 mvp kill maximum). Since the prize of zeny to tokens are rising, this would help out the newbies more, since they can also farm zeny and sell it to people for tokens But if you're trying to get the kiel and tao gunka cards' prices a lot cheaper. this would be a good idea (also beneficial to newbies)
calvinckm Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 :th_ok: :th_ok: Just love the way of how problem work solving 1 will create a new one. BUT token be a good start to solve zeny issue now in the game.
ThePerfectHit Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 No, this will hurt the economy for the people that hunt zeny. The only real use of zeny right now is for summoning MVPs and BCing. By making tokens usable on mvp summoner it will make zeny less useful on the server and will only be used for BC.
Aerofox Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 No, this will hurt the economy for the people that hunt zeny. The only real use of zeny right now is for summoning MVPs and BCing. By making tokens usable on mvp summoner it will make zeny less useful on the server and will only be used for BC. Also it would really overturn the server's main currency.
