gagosila123 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) I'm sure you are bugged with this thing especially newbies in this game considering upgrading their armors, cloak, shield and shoes to +10 will make them tough, I thought it also, when i was a newbie, I tried to upgrade my vote forsaken king set to +10, and what the outcome is, I realized it really just making a big defense and being a good target that I will just mention below: There's two thing I want you to know guys why we need to have these: 1. It contributes on the Thanatos card users and using ice pick weapons that wearing plus +10 armor, shield, shoes, cloak and garments.. (Disregard the weapon upgrade) 2. The prices are significantly dropped because of the upgrade, how can we preserve the good price of it? +1 or -1 ? Thanks for the feedback I will have here :) .... Edited June 2, 2013 by gagosila123 1
nellysky Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 +1 to upgrade remover.. +burger when this topic is implemented for having the very 1st post of +1.. hehhehe
Rayray Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 They won't approve this as that is a way of selling cheaper armors and stuff, and this has been suggested a few times before too. On a related note, you guys don't realize how good +10 armors are at the moment? 1
sartorius19 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 well my point here is that, some cards depends on the refinement of the equips, which others are using, so u cant entirely remove it.
Prince_Jester Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 this could be a long process, see coz some items are sold with +10 on it coz of the reason that thana user will rape them down. then some items are needed refines to make it work more efficient as it has to be. +1 and -1 on this ^_^ hahahahaha!!
Rayray Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 this could be a long process, see coz some items are sold with +10 on it coz of the reason that thana user will rape them down. then some items are needed refines to make it work more efficient as it has to be. +1 and -1 on this ^_^ hahahahaha!! Thana will not rape you if you had skolls and ring to begin with. +10 armors actually saves you against people that uses non incant equipments. If you guys didn't notice, wearing 2x skolls+ ring will make your def negative. I have around a few +10 armor pieces and thana don't hurt me at all. I am that cheap, and I kinda needed some extra armors, so why not.
Prince_Jester Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Thana will not rape you if you had skolls and ring to begin with. +10 armors actually saves you against people that uses non incant equipments. If you guys didn't notice, wearing 2x skolls+ ring will make your def negative. I have around a few +10 armor pieces and thana don't hurt me at all. I am that cheap, and I kinda needed some extra armors, so why not. Skolls + rings ? what If they don't have that items ??? pissed off to pvp ? ^____^ haha my point is i'm neutral in this topic suggestion :P not gonna debate on pros ^^, i'm new and i still gotta learn alotta stuffs ^^, BTW thanks for correcting me ^^, @nightmare
Victoria Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Skolls + rings ? what If they don't have that items ??? pissed off to pvp ? ^____^ haha If they dont have those items especially skolls, they better get out of PvP and gear up first before they try to fight with a thana user. 1
Prince_Jester Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 If they dont have those items especially skolls, they better get out of PvP and gear up first before they try to fight with a thana user. and that's the point ^_^ hahahaha!! well maybe +10's are needed in MVP types.. i guess :P
leboy27 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 They won't approve this as that is a way of selling cheaper armors and stuff, and this has been suggested a few times before too. On a related note, you guys don't realize how good +10 armors are at the moment? thing is. the build is always changing depends on the user and so as the equipment used to balance your stats. every bit of defense might affect your character's vulnerability. well my point here is that, some cards depends on the refinement of the equips, which others are using, so u cant entirely remove it. seems like your off topic here or you probably didn't understand his suggestion. he is suggesting a derefiner that makes your +10 equipment(headgear,armors, cloak, shield etc) turn back into +0 armor. he is not asking to remove the refiner. Skolls + rings ? what If they don't have that items ??? pissed off to pvp ? ^____^ haha my point is i'm neutral in this topic suggestion :P not gonna debate on pros ^^, i'm new and i still gotta learn alotta stuffs ^^, BTW thanks for correcting me ^^, @nightmare it's just common sense that if you lack proper gears you shouldn't be pvping. you cant expect people in pvp room to use the same gears as your wearing. im sorry to say but i find your opinions useless prior to his suggestion perhaps if your new you should try to be more observant. being a smart as.s wont make you pro.
sartorius19 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 thing is. the build is always changing depends on the user and so as the equipment used to balance your stats. every bit of defense might affect your character's vulnerability. seems like your off topic here or you probably didn't understand his suggestion. he is suggesting a derefiner that makes your +10 equipment(headgear,armors, cloak, shield etc) turn back into +0 armor. he is not asking to remove the refiner. it's just common sense that if you lack proper gears you shouldn't be pvping. you cant expect people in pvp room to use the same gears as your wearing. im sorry to say but i find your opinions useless prior to his suggestion perhaps if your new you should try to be more observant. being a smart as.s wont make you pro. yeah yeah i guess. my bad sorry for that and thnx for correcting me.
Rayray Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I wore +10 gears last time, a thana user hit me, I only am using 2x skolls. Didn't really hurt. I don't know what the fuss is. +10 gears only hurts you if you are using skoll+ray. Edited June 5, 2013 by ZerO25
nellysky Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 most newbies cant afford scolls. since most doesnt know how to earn tokens fast. some prefer to save for more importnt cards such as tg,kiel,fbh,tgk.. before buying some such as skolls and other not too much neccessary cards.. the point of this suggestion is.. some regreted of putting +10 on this set since it cant be removed anymore.. having +0 equips is usefull to some. for most of char having inca that ignores def and some are having thana.. and why u should have to +10 ur equipment since most of char are having inca, the +10 will be useless. and besides if you dont have skolls thana hurts u more becoz of ur +10.. yes +10 has an advantage as wel.. but yet it has also a disadvantage.. this suggestion is for pipol who regret of having +10 on ther equipz.. like i do... so we will be able to remove the upgrade on our choice..
leboy27 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 yeah yeah i guess. my bad sorry for that and thnx for correcting me. its cool bro. everyone make mistakes. gv @nellysky well explained +1
gagosila123 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) This suggestion is considered to me as giving a choice, because you can set what equipments what will you wear to, either upgraded or not, I respect all of your opinions because you have the strategy against it, but still, this might help what equipment and card compounds you will put... Edited June 5, 2013 by gagosila123
Victoria Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 the disadvantage about this suggestion is skolls getting useless. thats all i can say
leboy27 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 the disadvantage about this suggestion is skolls getting useless. thats all i can say i highly doubt it. skoll reduces "vit defense" by 40%(a.k.a Soft Def) while equipment is base defense(a.k.a Hard Def). the only thing that skoll reduces is your vit defense not the base defense from gears. so basically skoll card got nothin to do with gears. correct me if im wrong. you can refer to this link here to check.
Victoria Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Actually from what i heard before, Skolls does help to nullify the effects of +10 gears :) because as ive heard, +10 gears increases your vit def. if you have read clearly, Skoll is the card that decreases the damage of thana even with +10 equips thus, it is useful :3 and thus, +10 gears increases your vit def. Edited June 5, 2013 by Victoria
ceanspike Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 been already suggested that |http://www.forsaken-ro.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=23805&hl=kafra
justaskpermission Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) its ur fault for making ur items +10 sir just buy another 1 Edited June 5, 2013 by justaskpermission
nellysky Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 been already suggested that |http://www.forsaken-...=23805&hl=kafra evry1 got +1 on this topic before. but now some are disagree with this.. because of the rison that lessen the power of ther thana.. hehhehe since thana card is kinda expensive or shall i say thana is the most expensive card here.. the implementation of this suggestion will definitly drop the price of thana as well.
leboy27 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) indeed Edited June 8, 2013 by leboy27
ChainBreak Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 WHO THE FUCK WOULD EVEN CARE IF IT'S BETTER IN PVP. It is a fact that it's better for players to choose if they want +0 or +10. If you like using +10 then use it, but you shouldn't take that opportunity away for other players by upgrading gear to + 10 and reducing the amount of +0 gear.
