kohongiap Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Posted May 28, 2013 How ninja overpower all classes? Gunslinger can easily kill ninja. Just corner them and spam desp. When they leap away, just invi using sinx card and rapid them. Just annoy them like how they annoy you. LK wouldnt have problem killing ninja. Leaping away is pointless, the LK can just charge them and spam spiral or bb. They will die eventually, 2 fbh's and spam flip tatami? LK's spiral, who's seed will run out first. The result is pretty obvious. WS. Obvious answer. Bio. Acid bomb and magic. If the ninja is using gtb card, I don't think they have time to even atk. It just turns into survival game and watch how fast the ninja could flip the tatami. Champ. Most of them are on ship captain. If they isn't just rsx and pneuma to see who has more patience. Tss them to annoy them. Don't forget to annoy ninja as they are annoying. Gypsy/Clown. Tarot? AV? You might not be able to hit them, they can't hit you aswell. Lol. Test with jupiter, if they are on defending, just tarot. If they are on gtb, swap to sb and normal atk? It will annoys them as ninja range is quite small. If it's 1 on 1 fight, just don't be too aggressive for 10 minutes, fcp runs out = win. Pally. If I were on ninja. I wouldnt waste seeds trying to kill them. Dealing 10k-50k (sum of 3 hits) maximum if they're on defending aura. Will take forever to kill. Prof and Wiz have low chance of killing ninja if they equip gtb. That's true. lol... tell me how many ninja allow u to corner them? tatami give u 2-3sec immune to range atk... so they use gtb n spam tatami and spam kunai/shuriken... bio cant do much except keep going to them n push them backward to cancle effect so in that 1sec before they recast tatami to atk... even gypsy/clown cant touch them except spamming tarot... ninja r str build... holding much more ygg than clown/gypsy... by 10min let see who still survive... before fcp gone... who is pathetic bunch u? haha so they all run and warp..ur so strong heheh ur my idol. so why are u complaining..haha a strong one still complaining...for weak ones that always run warp and hide? why..? hahaha a strong one dont have to complain giap hahah..its albout common sense ^_^ lol i never once thought im the strong one... there always someone stronger... it just doesnt make any sense for a first job class to be so difficult to deal with except using WS... beside WS... u have to hide/tank their damage n cant really get close to them easily...
SquidySquid Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 lol... tell me how many ninja allow u to corner them? tatami give u 2-3sec immune to range atk... so they use gtb n spam tatami and spam kunai/shuriken... bio cant do much except keep going to them n push them backward to cancle effect so in that 1sec before they recast tatami to atk... even gypsy/clown cant touch them except spamming tarot... ninja r str build... holding much more ygg than clown/gypsy... by 10min let see who still survive... before fcp gone... Er. How many ninja allow me to corner them? None. They don't allow me, I just corner them. Ninja can't spam tatami and throw kunai at same time man. Bio has like 1.2k seeds at least. Gypsy can go full vit build. LK don't have to change gear at all. Champ won't waste a lot of berry. Just tss will waste some.
Rayray Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 ^ I think I am the only one that carries that much seeds, if you went INT build you cannot carry that much even with cart.
nehneh Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 kanoski why dont u talk lesser and just duel with giap? it seem like u only know only to type but dont dare to do any action:) 1
thePast Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Er. How many ninja allow me to corner them? None. They don't allow me, I just corner them. Ninja can't spam tatami and throw kunai at same time man. Bio has like 1.2k seeds at least. Gypsy can go full vit build. LK don't have to change gear at all. Champ won't waste a lot of berry. Just tss will waste some. ^ I think I am the only one that carries that much seeds, if you went INT build you cannot carry that much even with cart. ya, my bio went full int and can only carry 200-300 seeds at a time 3:
kohongiap Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Posted May 28, 2013 Er. How many ninja allow me to corner them? None. They don't allow me, I just corner them. Ninja can't spam tatami and throw kunai at same time man. Bio has like 1.2k seeds at least. Gypsy can go full vit build. LK don't have to change gear at all. Champ won't waste a lot of berry. Just tss will waste some. u should try fighting ninja like Remember Me / N I N J A B O Y or something similar i think... lol... once push back... they warp... n keep coming at u...
SquidySquid Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Er. I was talking bout fight in PvP room. ya, my bio went full int and can only carry 200-300 seeds at a time 3: Hahaha! Don't mind changing gears just to kill ninja? LOL!
kohongiap Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Posted May 28, 2013 Er. I was talking bout fight in PvP room. Hahaha! Don't mind changing gears just to kill ninja? LOL! just to kill ninja u got to do so much... isnt it clearly show how op it is? haha
Hypnosis Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) u should try fighting ninja like Remember Me / N I N J A B O Y or something similar i think... lol... once push back... they warp... n keep coming at u...Both remember me & Ninjaboy rely on warp. My gunslinger is a big time nb and still beats em, But only if you corner them or they accidentally miss a skill. It's extremely difficult when they have so many methods of evading attacks. -.- If you know how to use redux you can win. Most ninjas don't even use Usakoring or w/e they use GTB nonstop to prevent a dispell in the weapon someone is wearing. It's not difficult but it's a very tedious process to kill a ninja, That class isn't balanced. >.> Ninja needs a nerf, And it wouldn't matter if they had a Legendary blah blah or whatever. The arrows for Sniper and bullets for Gunslinger aren't life changing. It wouldn't matter if they had L.Kunai or not. They are untouchable. The only reason that WS kills them so easily is because Cart Termination is neither melee nor ranged. -_- This class needs to be reviewed, thoroughly. They are extremely difficult to kill and can dish out damage as well while dodging attacks. They are basically untouchable unless they don't have a GTB. Dispell is uesless against a ninja with GTB. There are many ways to kill a Ninja, Yes they aren't difficult to kill but that goes without saying for all classes, This class constantly amazes me @ how ridiculous it is. I'm not gonna say they need this or that. They need a review is what they do need. +1 who is pathetic bunch u? haha so they all run and warp..ur so strong heheh ur my idol. so why are u complaining..haha a strong one still complaining...for weak ones that always run warp and hide? why..? hahaha a strong one dont have to complain giap hahah..its albout common sense ^_^Exausted, If you don't have something nice to say then please be quiet. I see you warping constantly in PvP, That's pathetic. -.- Edited May 28, 2013 by Hypnosis
ChainBreak Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Okay so you defend ninja? Then I want strong magic and strong ranged attacks on SinX. I want to be able to cloack and backslide around to avoid dmg while doing some shit dmg to my opponents. I prolly still get hit by some stuff, but who cares. I won't die while doing dmg so I'm happy, cuz that's what every ninja can do.
SquidySquid Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Okay so you defend ninja? Then I want strong magic and strong ranged attacks on SinX. I want to be able to cloack and backslide around to avoid dmg while doing some shit dmg to my opponents. I prolly still get hit by some stuff, but who cares. I won't die while doing dmg so I'm happy, cuz that's what every ninja can do. Er. Champ can't do that?
ChainBreak Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Pls show me a champ that does that. He would die before he can even use root. Ninjas on the other hand completely ignore the first hit and automatically run away at the same time.
kanoski Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 Er. How many ninja allow me to corner them? None. They don't allow me, I just corner them. Ninja can't spam tatami and throw kunai at same time man. Bio has like 1.2k seeds at least. Gypsy can go full vit build. LK don't have to change gear at all. Champ won't waste a lot of berry. Just tss will waste some. +1 u cant spam at the same time Both remember me & Ninjaboy rely on warp. My gunslinger is a big time nb and still beats em, But only if you corner them or they accidentally miss a skill. It's extremely difficult when they have so many methods of evading attacks. -.- If you know how to use redux you can win. Most ninjas don't even use Usakoring or w/e they use GTB nonstop to prevent a dispell in the weapon someone is wearing. It's not difficult but it's a very tedious process to kill a ninja, That class isn't balanced. >.> Ninja needs a nerf, And it wouldn't matter if they had a Legendary blah blah or whatever. The arrows for Sniper and bullets for Gunslinger aren't life changing. It wouldn't matter if they had L.Kunai or not. They are untouchable. The only reason that WS kills them so easily is because Cart Termination is neither melee nor ranged. -_- This class needs to be reviewed, thoroughly. They are extremely difficult to kill and can dish out damage as well while dodging attacks. They are basically untouchable unless they don't have a GTB. Dispell is uesless against a ninja with GTB. There are many ways to kill a Ninja, Yes they aren't difficult to kill but that goes without saying for all classes, This class constantly amazes me @ how ridiculous it is. I'm not gonna say they need this or that. They need a review is what they do need. +1 Exausted, If you don't have something nice to say then please be quiet. I see you warping constantly in PvP, That's pathetic. -.- im just telling the truth i admitt i use warp coz..i cnt stnd a chnce to other geared plyers.....i say wthever i say..coz this is the fact..giap said sme ninjas go to warp run and hide when they saw him..wht he`s trying to say of this?..if u are good player u dont have to complain like other players
plok123 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 +1 on hard delay. They're untouchable coz they can spam their skills :) but I do not find them OP, I killed a couple using my sinx, but it was hard, you just can't hit them.. XD and to this Kanoski guy, who the heck are you? you don't state a valid argument that can prove your point and you are classified as one of those people on the internet that talks a lot of trash, boast and claim to have superior mind/skill because it's in the 'internet'. You absolutely have no idea regarding on who are the players that you have started an argument here in the forums, you could at least show some respect as it's clear that when it comes to playing this game they are better than you and have been on this server since it started.
nehneh Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 It a suggestion not complaining. And giap it helping other player too!
kohongiap Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Posted May 29, 2013 im just telling the truth i admitt i use warp coz..i cnt stnd a chnce to other geared plyers.....i say wthever i say..coz this is the fact..giap said sme ninjas go to warp run and hide when they saw him..wht he`s trying to say of this?..if u are good player u dont have to complain like other players lol so what if u r a good player? good player also play fair and square... ur a sinx that y u can cloak and hide from damage and blackslide when ur in danger... but what about other class? u cant be so selfish right? currently im using WS i can kill ninja easily... but that doesnt change the fact that ninja required a review... all i can see is that you are just trying to argue for your guild mates since most of the ninja are from there... n also help them in ganging people
Victoria Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 all i can see is that you are just trying to argue for your guild mates since most of the ninja are from there... n also help them in ganging people i am from KAOS and i dont see Remember Me or other ninjas (i think Remember Me is our only ninja O.o) trying to tell him what to say or what to do. you dont need to bring our guild in here because they dont have something to do about this, for short they are innocent, all of the things he said are his own opinion not our guild's opinion.
Rayray Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 im just telling the truth i admitt i use warp coz..i cnt stnd a chnce to other geared plyers.....i say wthever i say..coz this is the fact..giap said sme ninjas go to warp run and hide when they saw him..wht he`s trying to say of this?..if u are good player u dont have to complain like other players worst.logic.ever. So in your defense, if a player is good, he should let players that are not good to abuse something that is broken so that they are on somewhat equal footing? So, should I just let myself get killed in for_fild so I am labelled as a noob and by then I can make a suggestion about ninjas? You really seem to be just a know it all and blabbers about it to anyone who will listen. You replied on a stalker guide saying it was not a good build when you haven't even established yourself as a good stalker. You reply to this topic when you haven't established yourself as a good ninja. You reply to this saying there are counters to ninja when you yourself CANNOT even corner or kill one. On what grounds should people believe whatever you say regarding the topic when it is so obvious that you know nothing about it? You even mentioned on the stalker guide of Joker that "Stalkers is a support class". If that is the case, why is your "killer and pvp" SinX cannot even fight my "Support" Stalker without warping? And don't give me the "i am not geared/strong enough to kill you" argument, you hit me first on stalker when I was talking to Squall Leon. Why hit someone you are sure you cannot kill then? To try and catch me off guard so you can satisfy yourself on being able to kill my alternate character? Everyone except you who commented either have fought or used ninjas. You don't belong anywhere there. 1
SquidySquid Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 Make the flip tatami delay like 5-6 seconds. So it's vulnerable for 2-3 seconds. Fair enough? Lol.
zergling Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 no giving it a 5-6 second delay would kill the class, giving it a hard delay of 2 seconds is plenty, there's the knock back that will cancel it so if it's 5-6 seconds it's way too high of a delay. Anyway Ninja are so broken it's retarted they need a delay on flip tatami, and cast off cicada. Whether you like it or not that's what we are faced with. Lets stop bitching at each other about who sucks and who doesn't and focus on the bigger picture to find a solution to the problem at hand.
kohongiap Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) i am from KAOS and i dont see Remember Me or other ninjas (i think Remember Me is our only ninja O.o) trying to tell him what to say or what to do. you dont need to bring our guild in here because they dont have something to do about this, for short they are innocent, all of the things he said are his own opinion not our guild's opinion. sry if i related it to ur guild but... last night it did happen... Remember Me and another ninja call N I N J A B O Y with a red emblem that look like KAOS... maybe i remember it wrongly... n Exausted was ganging me... 3v1... till Airi and Pandaring came to help me when they cant stand seeing it... Edited May 29, 2013 by kohongiap
Victoria Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) sry if i related it to ur guild but... last night it did happen... Remember Me and another ninja call N I N J A B O Y with a red emblem that look like KAOS... maybe i remember it wrongly... n Exausted was ganging me... 3v1... till Airi and Pandaring came to help me when they cant stand seeing it... I dont know about Remember Me, but he usually just try and random people :/ he even hits me :/ I double-checked and Ninja Boy really is in the guild but i have never seen him yet joining us in our guild events/hanging out at base etc. and about Exausted, well he has already been dealt with :) he is now at Undefeated Guild though :3 Edited May 29, 2013 by Victoria
kanoski Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 kanoski why dont u talk lesser and just duel with giap? it seem like u only know only to type but dont dare to do any action:) just tell it to giap..instead of me. vs giap.. hahah thats crazy im not a ninja im just a player that always killed hehe 1
kanoski Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 I dont know about Remember Me, but he usually just try and random people :/ he even hits me :/ I double-checked and Ninja Boy really is in the guild but i have never seen him yet joining us in our guild events/hanging out at base etc. and about Exausted, well he has already been dealt with :) he is now at Undefeated Guild though :3 im expled to kaos hahaha bcoz of victoria hehe..but its ok.so are u happy now..he cnt revenge her slelf so she decided to expled me hehe..u dont know remeber me stop pretending..haha usually try to random people haha..u said it to ur guildmates.. wht guildmates are u..just try to be cool u put ur member to a situation like this haha wht are u trying to say ninja boy and remeber are one hahah
Bishop Posted May 29, 2013 Report Posted May 29, 2013 I'm only going to say this once, to everyone in this topic. If you do not have something to add to the actual discussion, then do not post things just to attack other players. Kanoski, I've seen at least 8-9 of your posts that do not say anything other than insulting and trolling other people in the topic. It's fine to defend your arguments but making a ton of posts simply to insult others is not ok. If the troll posts/personal attacks continue, warning points will be added. Keep it civilized please.
