Tweetie Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 Just wanna know the best Biochemists to know who i should seek help from Quote
thePast Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 Currently active - Nightmare Zero. c: Quote
Rayray Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) For shameless plug of my Biochemist guide: http://www.forsaken-...showtopic=23142 Bombin is a really good biochemist and he is more active than me in terms of PvP. We really cannot rank who is the best. I always say that a fight between decently geared biochems will be won by who has the higher hp and who switches to the maya shield at the right moment or who has more seeds, in short if we make all the biochemists fight each other, the one with the most seed or the one that didn't get ganged will win. There are about 2 Biochems more geared than me and bombin(both me and bombin has identical items) but i don't see them much. And I am 80% sure that I am the only Biochemist with an Eidelic Wing at the moment. I am normally at for_fild01, feel free to ask if you see me, or just pm me(make sure to read my guide first, then ask if I miss out anything on that guide) Edited April 14, 2013 by ZerO25 Quote
Victoria Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 When it comes to PvP Ladder: BOMBIN~ERRYDAY and when it comes to WoE bio: NightMare Zero FCP Bio: Precious Bio (just wanna say her name xD) Ohh and my Bio is best in FCPing since i FCP random people.. (nah just kidding xD) Quote
ChainBreak Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 Bombin all the way across the sky. Quote
jameslamela Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 my chemical romance a.k.a. precious bio.... XD Quote
Rayray Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) When it comes to PvP Ladder: BOMBIN~ERRYDAY and when it comes to WoE bio: NightMare Zero FCP Bio: Precious Bio (just wanna say her name xD) Ohh and my Bio is best in FCPing since i FCP random people.. (nah just kidding xD) Wow, i never knew people actually recognize me when I WoE O_O Ok here's the thing, if you plan on dueling people 1 on 1, you better ask Bombin, he is better with that since his build kinda focuses on that compared to mine. My card set nowadays(including the extra gears I carry) is kinda inclined on the thinking I will get ganged and I need to bring at least some of them down. I gotta be honest, I change builds depending on situation(WoE, GvG, BR, PVP room). Regarding WoE and PvP: Most of the people I fought knew this: If I die, there are only 3 reasons for it. It is either I didn't pay attention much(or goofing around or probably drunk), OR I run out of seeds OR the most common is I got comaed :D. Edited April 14, 2013 by ZerO25 Quote
hazbird123 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Posted April 14, 2013 ID say Nightmare Zero and Precious Bio are probably both better than me in knowledge, gear, and skill although im certain i put more effort into the pvp aspect(when not alot besides pride and another kill in pvp are on the line at least haha) there are a few other super geared bios that i dont see often so i dont know if they are good or just rich. Thinking towards just rich from my few encounters. Quote
Tweetie Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Posted April 14, 2013 Cool much thanks everyone. I willl be talking to those three creators today or tomorrow, and your guide is reall cool Nightmare zero. I will be using it alot! Quote
Victoria Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Wow, i never knew people actually recognize me when I WoE O_O Ok here's the thing, if you plan on dueling people 1 on 1, you better ask Bombin, he is better with that since his build kinda focuses on that compared to mine. My card set nowadays(including the extra gears I carry) is kinda inclined on the thinking I will get ganged and I need to bring at least some of them down. I gotta be honest, I change builds depending on situation(WoE, GvG, BR, PVP room). Regarding WoE and PvP: Most of the people I fought knew this: If I die, there are only 3 reasons for it. It is either I didn't pay attention much(or goofing around or probably drunk), OR I run out of seeds OR the most common is I got comaed :D. ^ Actually the reason i recognize you is, you always AD me when im going at the emp haha xD if you want to be a good WoE bio try asking Nightmare Zero :) Quote
Rayray Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 ^ Correction, I AD everyone I see, but I don't bother chasing people that get past me. Quote
nellysky Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 @ zero.. how u come up with that build of ur bio? is that ur original set up of bio or u just research it up for a good guide and build for a bio.. Quote
Rayray Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 I was here for a very, very long time, and I fought every class on biochemist and on SinX before. So I know what works, and what doesn't,. For example, I know melee physical classes like sinx, and probably LK, will have a problem of getting dispelled. Now they cannot possibly wear GTB everytime they fight me, so that is where my valk randgris card is useful. I need something that pushes off people out of pneuma, cart revolution does that but I can't hit them with 405 hit, so I use phreeoni card. Now I need two cards on weapon that would help me against champs or any class that needs 195 aspd, that is where I use Thanatos maero. Acid terror carry over status ailments like freeze, so I use stormy knight. I get hit a lot in WoE, why not use dragoon wizard card then? 2x Dragoon wizard dont work, so I use amon ra as well. Only thing that annoys me about snipers is their arrow repel, so i have an rsx tao armor. So on and so forth. Tons of the cards I use now, came from extensive testing of builds. That's why people will see me dead a lot of times in for_fild01, that was the time I am testing some stuff so I don't really bother wasting too many seeds. What I did before is research about the class, I didn't read any guide about biochemists before I used it. I tested it out myself. Checked every card in RMS and see what might help me(that's why i had darklord+dark illusion combo for my hybrid biochem before) Oh and last but not the least, I never warped out in a duel. Even if my seed ran out. That helped a lot, knowing the ins and outs of pvp by not being a coward and warping out when things got rough. Quote
hazbird123 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Haha ya thats why im banned right now didn't you know xD but really im not banned and thats cuz i dont feed. How about you come try to kill me drunk. After i eat u a few hundred times, then you can say i fed on you <3 ERRYDAY DRUNK! GET READY ;) Quote
Rayray Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Woah guys calm down. Bombin here is one of the few biochems I extensively gave tips to and chat with to perfect our builds on biochem. I really doubt that someone who can fight toe to toe and kill me in pvp room would actually need to feed. Quote
El7 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Bombin, Hope and Zero... Hmmm i don't see zero that often in pvp/woe but i know his good. Quote
-Si- Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 I am the best creator :D jk... Top Creators that are my favorite, not in a order. BOMBIN~ERRDAY Precious Bio Technique Nightmare Zero Quote
nellysky Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 I was here for a very, very long time, and I fought every class on biochemist and on SinX before. So I know what works, and what doesn't,. For example, I know melee physical classes like sinx, and probably LK, will have a problem of getting dispelled. Now they cannot possibly wear GTB everytime they fight me, so that is where my valk randgris card is useful. I need something that pushes off people out of pneuma, cart revolution does that but I can't hit them with 405 hit, so I use phreeoni card. Now I need two cards on weapon that would help me against champs or any class that needs 195 aspd, that is where I use Thanatos maero. Acid terror carry over status ailments like freeze, so I use stormy knight. I get hit a lot in WoE, why not use dragoon wizard card then? 2x Dragoon wizard dont work, so I use amon ra as well. Only thing that annoys me about snipers is their arrow repel, so i have an rsx tao armor. So on and so forth. Tons of the cards I use now, came from extensive testing of builds. That's why people will see me dead a lot of times in for_fild01, that was the time I am testing some stuff so I don't really bother wasting too many seeds. What I did before is research about the class, I didn't read any guide about biochemists before I used it. I tested it out myself. Checked every card in RMS and see what might help me(that's why i had darklord+dark illusion combo for my hybrid biochem before) Oh and last but not the least, I never warped out in a duel. Even if my seed ran out. That helped a lot, knowing the ins and outs of pvp by not being a coward and warping out when things got rough. i cant imagine u never read a guide for it. this is the most pro thing i have readed men... such determination.. having a tons of cards for ur experimentation is a serios thing.. thers nothing wrong of being killed on forfild01 like i did too..atleast u can learn what is ur mistakes and u can think for a better way to make it by urself.. being a newbie is not a noob.. another word to u men.. your good!! on pvp room.. bio is simply dominating.. specialy wen it has alliance inside.. i see bombin on pvp room and he has a guildmates with him as his back up.. while pipol go in ther alone.. any wel geared bio can reach that record if only they will only has a patience to stay on that room on such long period of time. with a dude on its back.. just simply BC to make evry1 to make pipol go pvp.. :D Quote
-Si- Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 I was here for a very, very long time, and I fought every class on biochemist and on SinX before. So I know what works, and what doesn't,. For example, I know melee physical classes like sinx, and probably LK, will have a problem of getting dispelled. Now they cannot possibly wear GTB everytime they fight me, so that is where my valk randgris card is useful. I need something that pushes off people out of pneuma, cart revolution does that but I can't hit them with 405 hit, so I use phreeoni card. Now I need two cards on weapon that would help me against champs or any class that needs 195 aspd, that is where I use Thanatos maero. Acid terror carry over status ailments like freeze, so I use stormy knight. I get hit a lot in WoE, why not use dragoon wizard card then? 2x Dragoon wizard dont work, so I use amon ra as well. Only thing that annoys me about snipers is their arrow repel, so i have an rsx tao armor. So on and so forth. Tons of the cards I use now, came from extensive testing of builds. That's why people will see me dead a lot of times in for_fild01, that was the time I am testing some stuff so I don't really bother wasting too many seeds. What I did before is research about the class, I didn't read any guide about biochemists before I used it. I tested it out myself. Checked every card in RMS and see what might help me(that's why i had darklord+dark illusion combo for my hybrid biochem before) Oh and last but not the least, I never warped out in a duel. Even if my seed ran out. That helped a lot, knowing the ins and outs of pvp by not being a coward and warping out when things got rough. Nerd! Teach me your ways ^^ I must be a pro creator as you and bombin. Quote
Rayray Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) LOL,well, I played sinx for the first half of my years here, and i was never a breaker as a sinx. I was a PvP sinx, and I practically hit everyone in anthell01(that was the pvp hang out place when i played sinx). That taught me tons of things, including the weaknesses of melee classes. I never tried sniper and champ, but those two gave me a hard time as a sinx, so when i went to biochemist, I made sure that every class there is, i have some sort of defense. No need to get super offensive, you need something to be able to fight every class, even if you can't beat them. You guys need to pvp, don't care what others say about randoming being annoying. annoy them. Kill everyone, not just the ungeared if you are just starting. That way you will know what is the weakness of your class, and put some kind of fix for it (cards and skills). I'll give another example. RSX armor screws bios, so i have one acc that has strip armor. knowing pvp room dispells fcp, i know that if i cant break their armor, they are using rsx(add the fact that if my storm gust dont push them around). in fact, i normally cart revo them first, if they dont get pushed back, i switch to strip armor and strip away their armor and weapon using metalling card too. and once they get frozen by SG , i know they dont have armor. i use this strategy against SN too, i know for a fact that they have low vit and 500k hp with two tao, even if i spam i cant kill that, so ill remove the armor then spam. There are tons of things i can't say outright since i will be giving all the stuff i use. but frankly they are not secret combo cards, most of the stuff I use are pretty basic. (HINT: some of it are custom cards :p). Edited April 19, 2013 by ZerO25 Quote
nellysky Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 LOL,well, I played sinx for the first half of my years here, and i was never a breaker as a sinx. I was a PvP sinx, and I practically hit everyone in anthell01(that was the pvp hang out place when i played sinx). That taught me tons of things, including the weaknesses of melee classes. I never tried sniper and champ, but those two gave me a hard time as a sinx, so when i went to biochemist, I made sure that every class there is, i have some sort of defense. No need to get super offensive, you need something to be able to fight every class, even if you can't beat them. You guys need to pvp, don't care what others say about randoming being annoying. annoy them. Kill everyone, not just the ungeared if you are just starting. That way you will know what is the weakness of your class, and put some kind of fix for it (cards and skills). I'll give another example. RSX armor screws bios, so i have one acc that has strip armor. knowing pvp room dispells fcp, i know that if i cant break their armor, they are using rsx(add the fact that if my storm gust dont push them around). in fact, i normally cart revo them first, if they dont get pushed back, i switch to strip armor and strip away their armor and weapon using metalling card too. and once they get frozen by SG , i know they dont have armor. i use this strategy against SN too, i know for a fact that they have low vit and 500k hp with two tao, even if i spam i cant kill that, so ill remove the armor then spam. There are tons of things i can't say outright since i will be giving all the stuff i use. but frankly they are not secret combo cards, most of the stuff I use are pretty basic. (HINT: some of it are custom cards :p). CASE CLOSE!! THIS TOPIC BELONGS TO ZERO.. INDEED!!! :b You guys need to pvp, don't care what others say about randoming being annoying. annoy them. Kill everyone, not just the ungeared if you are just starting. That way you will know what is the weakness of your class, and put some kind of fix for it (cards and skills). +1 for this..... Quote
hazbird123 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 Surprised no one has said Amelia Kaori or Hollister yet, I really enjoy those 2 bios along with Zero and myself. I would say you are very wrong and dont understand how i started winning pvp Sky. During my first 2 weeks of pvp ladder i wasn't geared at all besides having most of my mvp cards and legendary gear(had 4 bombring cards in my L.mace at that point and 2 silver kiels still haha). I had no allies as well, which in fact made life easier since there were more options of people to kill and less friends or friends of friends to worry about... I also got better mainly through fighting everyone, not just the newbies(in fact when i started this server i enjoyed picking fights with super geared people above all else and still do) but you are right about the time you need to put into the pvp room and about how much you will need to use the BC to get people in there(fyi preparation is the most important thing in winning pvp room). Also, NO not any bio can win 1st place just by having a ton of money and allies. Ive known a few rich bios that thought they could beat me with just using better gear and guess what happened ^.^ Quote