yape Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 Poring Tower + Frig Shield or Forsaken Vote Shield + Scared Wing + Skull Aura, It's kinda Over Power. It's Annoying
Munchiesz Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 this is true +453405903495990384095890384095809989098490893859389593099 Plz change It!
Rayray Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 I knew someone would eventually suggest this sooner or later. it only becomes annoying when stalkers combine it with their valk weapon. and if they do that anyway, they lose headgear slots so they cant go FAS on you and had to stick to DS or normal attacks with triple blow, and fcp is so abundant now that we technically removed their best skill. im neutral about this, they reduce it or not, it's ok with me since most of the stalkers that do that are just following the trend and does not really have a clue so it's fun to duel them.
Shadi Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 I'll have to disagree with this suggestion. It's still easy to kill people even when they have all those gears equipped. And lets not forget that equipping this headgear gives disadvantages as well. You no longer have the forsaken king set on so you can freeze unless you give up an armor slot, you give up an additional headgear slot causing you to no longer have 4 kiels and/or be vurnerable to stone curse. You do no longer have the forsaken king set bonusses/stat bonusses of the helm. Meaning you'd need a damn lot more agi to get to max aspd while wearing this hat. All of the above combined I think the hat has more than enough disadvantages as it is and in return it gives a decent amount of reductions. Without the hat the gearset Sacred, skull aura + friggs remains which is easily killable. 1
7lovestories Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 nerf the poring tower for stalkers :)
Nadtorious Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 Poring Tower + Frig Shield or Forsaken Vote Shield + Scared Wing + Skull Aura, It's kinda Over Power. It's Annoying +1
Master. Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 i think the problem is stalker have to much reduction and never die for this build.... my idea is less reduction on stalker
Leo `D Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 i will suggest to nerf the poring tower for stalker coz it is OP for stalker
Centurion Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 I'll have to disagree with this suggestion. It's still easy to kill people even when they have all those gears equipped. And lets not forget that equipping this headgear gives disadvantages as well. You no longer have the forsaken king set on so you can freeze unless you give up an armor slot, you give up an additional headgear slot causing you to no longer have 4 kiels and/or be vurnerable to stone curse. You do no longer have the forsaken king set bonusses/stat bonusses of the helm. Meaning you'd need a damn lot more agi to get to max aspd while wearing this hat. All of the above combined I think the hat has more than enough disadvantages as it is and in return it gives a decent amount of reductions. Without the hat the gearset Sacred, skull aura + friggs remains which is easily killable. Then lets all play stalker!!
Rayray Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) instead of attacking poring tower which only reduces 10%, why not just remove the -20% reduction in stalker SB? Edited November 5, 2012 by ZerO25
Master. Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 instead of attacking poring tower which only reduces 10%, why not just remove the -20% reduction in stalker SB? Yeah is more better because exist the poo poo hat and santa poring hat is the same effect of the poring tower hat
CresentChaos Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 I'm neutral for this... U can tarot them till they are death But the reduct can also be killed by the asura spams Like the nice spam of imai miki Maybe normal gear off ppls can kill this reduct So -1 and +1 for this
Centurion Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) I'm neutral for this... U can tarot them till they are death But the reduct can also be killed by the asura spams Like the nice spam of imai miki Maybe normal gear off ppls can kill this reduct So -1 and +1 for this U can tarot them till they are death - GTB. But the reduct can also be killed by the asura spams - Have you ever tried it? Like the nice spam of imai miki- Dont know who that is Maybe normal gear off ppls can kill this reduct- Have you ever tried it? Edited November 9, 2012 by Centurion
Rayray Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 a reducts stalker cannot die on asura spam. i think most asura would damage 10k+ on those reducts.
TensaZangetsu Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 It not all about the reduction, but how easy they can maneuver and avoid attack. For example, if you ever particapate in LMS, notice how they're always the last to survive and prosue. Its due to there spell, gangster walk and not ever class have a reliable skill to unhide them and they also have backslide. I think we should reduce there demi-human defense from 20% to maybe 9% or 11%, add a half second delay on gangster walk and increase there attack on all skills by 10%. There attack isn't so great from what i experience.
Rayray Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 ^ hell, I actually vote to remove the demihuman resist on the bow altogether and just put something in there that helps in damage.
Centurion Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 a reducts stalker cannot die on asura spam. i think most asura would damage 10k+ on those reducts.
thePast Posted November 11, 2012 Report Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) ^Yep.. and they could still have 4-8k on normal attack. +1. Edited November 11, 2012 by thePast
GenericName Posted November 18, 2012 Report Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Hahahahahahahaha. People think it's so easy to kill them, yet, the person who said this doesn't actually PvP on this server anymore. It's absolutely redic when a FULL MAGIC POWER PROF. (Cape, Urds, bflyaura, Piamette hat) Does 200-300 per hit. I play a FULL damage whitesmith and the most I do is 3999, I've seen champs asura them for 1k damage, oh and snipers? DS? FAS? no more than 3k. This is absolutely the MOST op thing on this server right now, and it definitely needs to change. I +1 this suggestion, as an avid PvP'er. I'll have to disagree with this suggestion. It's still easy to kill people even when they have all those gears equipped. And lets not forget that equipping this headgear gives disadvantages as well. You no longer have the forsaken king set on so you can freeze unless you give up an armor slot, you give up an additional headgear slot causing you to no longer have 4 kiels and/or be vurnerable to stone curse. You do no longer have the forsaken king set bonusses/stat bonusses of the helm. Meaning you'd need a damn lot more agi to get to max aspd while wearing this hat. All of the above combined I think the hat has more than enough disadvantages as it is and in return it gives a decent amount of reductions. Without the hat the gearset Sacred, skull aura + friggs remains which is easily killable. LOL, let's see you login and attempt to kill one. Please don't speak about things when you have 0 experience fighting one. Thanks. Edited November 18, 2012 by GenericName
Shadi Posted November 18, 2012 Report Posted November 18, 2012 LOL, let's see you login and attempt to kill one. Please don't speak about things when you have 0 experience fighting one. Thanks. 1: You don't know all my characters, so you have no idea whether I'm actually playing or not. Really Aki you need to personally attack someone to make a point ? Sad, very low :(. 2: Stop going full damage against a full reduction user. Start using your brain and use different tactiques. Force them to change usakoring into gtb for example. And vs all jobs except stalker pretty much you can use stone armor, or freeze the target as well with the mentioned set. Them having to counter that either forces them to not be able to spam at all, or have less reductions, or give up an armor slot and therefore lessen survivability and rendering them killable. 3: The only job these reductions could be close to OP with are stalkers. All other jobs can easily be killed when using any sort of tactiques instead of brainlessly trying to outdamage their reductions. Nerf the combination on stalker or the stalkers soaring bow. Not the set or hat in general.
GenericName Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Don't know what everyone else was talking about, but I wanted to nerf that shit on stalker, nothing else. And yes, I have done all those variations, considering how long I've been playing this game, I know. But detale+gr = gg. You can't physically damage a stalker who has that gear enough to kill it, especially with how fast they can ygg/spam skills. Gotta love the Breakneck / Sprite edits here. It's changed now anyways, thanks GM's. Edited November 19, 2012 by GenericName
Beautiful Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 ^Changed? What got changed? :\ ^Changed? What got changed? :\in the latest hot patch ( changelog ) they stated that poring tower no longer stacks with friggs shield or king shield
Centurion Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 in the latest hot patch ( changelog ) they stated that poring tower no longer stacks with friggs shield or king shield 1
