Wish Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Short and sweet: The ladder will now run for two weeks before being reset. (As of 02/25/11).
Applez Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) That sounds like a nice change, cant wait to give it a try! :) Edited February 26, 2011 by Applez
HerLove Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Any special reason for the change? Just curious.
Veggie&Mac Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Any special reason for the change? Just curious. x2
nines Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 This gonna raise the price of wings and further fuck up our eco on our small server.
Hazard Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Genesis must be working on OP wing /gg
kola Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Genesis must be working on OP wing /gg LOL
Adamxd Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 I wonder who is so desperated to play it everyday and stay online for many hours within 2 weeks? New age on Fro -Maniac age!
Terroryst Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 I don't know if you guys noticed, but wings costing at 1k+ tokens were going out a week... That's kind of a lot in exchange for a couple of berry/seed tickets spent on getting first place. Yes, you have to stay on and kill, but majority of the time is was gangs anyways so yeah. Anyways, good job Wish.
Ryuk Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Without a huge stimulance this change will reduce the amount of players laddering. Not a lot of people will have time to keep their kills up for 2 weeks straight. Also the second and third prize already were hardly worth it to ladder for these would be even less valuable spots. Weird change unless new rewards will be added, even if. I'd still find it a very weird change.
Poringly Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Any special reason for the change? Just curious. ^What he say and again, why..?
Genesis Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Any special reason for the change? Just curious.We've been planning to do this for a while. The idea was to make the prizes harder to obtain and more valuable. Not just a monopoly of friends winning the ladder. This gonna raise the price of wings and further fuck up our eco on our small server.Our server is mid-sized to big with how RO servers are currently. Considering our only player count doesn't count venders, we could be considered in the top 6. It will raise the price of wings, it will also raise the amount of people who participate in the PvP Ladder because of the renounced prestige it will achieve and the increased price of the wings. Total OP chaos incoming.No OP wings. Genesis must be working on OP wing /ggNo OP Wings. I don't know if you guys noticed, but wings costing at 1k+ tokens were going out a week... That's kind of a lot in exchange for a couple of berry/seed tickets spent on getting first place. Yes, you have to stay on and kill, but majority of the time is was gangs anyways so yeah. Anyways, good job Wish. Bingo. Hopefully, as it becomes more profitable well-equipped people will start to Ladder once more. Single players (say 8 of them) will be able to take out a gang of 5 people. It might move away from 5 vs 1, or it might make it so there are several gangs laddering at once. Either way, it will promote PvP Action within the ladder. Without a huge stimulance this change will reduce the amount of players laddering. Not a lot of people will have time to keep their kills up for 2 weeks straight. Also the second and third prize already were hardly worth it to ladder for these would be even less valuable spots. Weird change unless new rewards will be added, even if. I'd still find it a very weird change.Most people who win the ladder are on most of the day anyways. Instead of sitting and talking, they might go into PvP and defend their ranks. No one does the PvP Ladder for the second and third prizes, those have always been close to worthless. Read my other replies for a response to our weird change comment. update pl0xI don't understand what you are saying.
Ryuk Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Bingo. Hopefully, as it becomes more profitable well-equipped people will start to Ladder once more. Single players (say 8 of them) will be able to take out a gang of 5 people. It might move away from 5 vs 1, or it might make it so there are several gangs laddering at once. Either way, it will promote PvP Action within the ladder.Either this will happen, or the complete opposite will happen. Many people will also quit laddering due to the fact they'll have to keep it up for 2 weeks straight instead of 1. I just hope it turns out the way you want it to turn out but I have my doubts. Also Total OP chaos incoming. No OP Wings. I think Edu was goaling at overpriced wings not overpowered ones. And I'm afraid he is right. As you've mentioned yourself The idea was to make the prizes harder to obtain and more valuable the ladder items will indeed become more valueable, the only problem is that they already were extremely expensive and will now only raise more. Hence why I think this change was a weird one because I thought we were becoming more 'newb-friendly' lately. To me this seems the opposite.
Terroryst Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Either this will happen, or the complete opposite will happen. Many people will also quit laddering due to the fact they'll have to keep it up for 2 weeks straight instead of 1. Also I think Edu was goaling at overpriced wings not overpowered ones. And I'm afraid he is right. As you've mentioned yourself the ladder items will indeed become more valueable, the only problem is that they already were extremely expensive and will now only raise more. Hence why I think this change was a weird one because I thought we were becoming more 'newb-friendly' lately. To me this seems the opposite. Indeed, many of the current participants in laddering may quit laddering, but that will open up spots for new people to join in on the ladder. New people laddering = a lot of tokens if they win = better gears for them. Sounds pretty newb-friendly to me.
Dudu Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 Thanks Ryuk for clearing out things. I meant on ppl overpricing the actual wings, with the excuse " hey ladder its 2 weeks now". So yeah.
Ryuk Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Indeed, many of the current participants in laddering may quit laddering, but that will open up spots for new people to join in on the ladder. New people laddering = a lot of tokens if they win = better gears for them. Sounds pretty newb-friendly to me.As Gen stated as it becomes more profitable well-equipped people will start to Ladder once more. Making the ladder 2 weeks makes it even harder for people to win it. People with less gears will have an even smaller chance of winning it than they already have right now, And buying the wings from other players will no longer be an option either since they'll be so expensive people would have to save up coupons for 2 years to get one. while at the same time really rich people with already a load of gears will only get richer. That's why I stated it's not very newb-friendly.
Genesis Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Either this will happen, or the complete opposite will happen. Many people will also quit laddering due to the fact they'll have to keep it up for 2 weeks straight instead of 1. I just hope it turns out the way you want it to turn out but I have my doubts. Also I think Edu was goaling at overpriced wings not overpowered ones. And I'm afraid he is right. As you've mentioned yourself the ladder items will indeed become more valueable, the only problem is that they already were extremely expensive and will now only raise more. Hence why I think this change was a weird one because I thought we were becoming more 'newb-friendly' lately. To me this seems the opposite. No one that wants to get the prizes for the ladder will quit it. You claim yourself that the price for it will rise, making it more enticing for people to participate. You are welcome to have your doubts, doesn't mean they are right. I created the ladder, I know how it works and what people will do to win. As Gen stated Making the ladder 2 weeks makes it even harder for people to win it. People with less gears will have an even smaller chance of winning it than they already have right now, And buying the wings from other players will no longer be an option either since they'll be so expensive people would have to save up coupons for 2 years to get one. while at the same time really rich people with already a load of gears will only get richer. That's why I stated it's not very newb-friendly.1. Non-Donation PvP Room = questable equipment for non-donators. 2. No new player can spend 500+ tokens to get wings anyways. 3. If the elite you are referring to don't do the PvP Ladder, they are opening it up for new players to win. Either way, it increases PvP activity or new players get the items. This isn't a discussion thread, announcements aren't debatable. For any further clarification you are welcome to PM me.
Rune Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 I personaly liked the change. This might stimulate more people to participate. As I walk around the server in disguise, I often see people reffering to ladder weeks using specific player's names to define them as in "This is John/Poul/Larry/Joe's week" so on, so forth. The ladder is supposed to be a competition, not a monopoly. More time spam will make it much harder for such players to control who wins or who loses. People who currently ladder might find this unatractive and quit, thus giving opportunity for those who wish to participate but don't have the resources/contacts to stand up.
Nadtorious Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Somehow I feel excited about the next update . (: I like dis change doe . >;3
Adamxd Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Well now new players can buy wings raw for 2k, sacreds for 3k, after 2 weeks ladder i bet prices will dobule so they need to spend much more. And Ilm pretty sure people who were laddering will do it again, and newbies will not achieve 1# 2# 3# position. Honestly we are still nowhere, it just make it harder nothing more.
Meka Meka Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Question: What is the current price of the different sacred wings now?
