Guild Hideout Buffs Too Op!

[Ryuk]

People can't change at all at this moment. The function was removed because they abused it. However they were able to transform into both monsters and npc / effects. Apparently Genesis is working on a work-around for this issue, I guess people just can't play fair.

[Ultimate Weapon]

It's not about jealousy....

I ashuraed a champ that have full buffs with GTB shield on and guess what...

He didnt die ROFL!

he also have SL buffs and all that...

oh well PvP ladder became useless now thanks to guild hideout i guess.

It's just funny how champ did 280k to a prof with fluffy wing+2xray and ursakoring shield ahahaha.

oh well if u guys wanna say jealousy be my guest. wait until you try to ladder and see how much your effort wasted in a matter of time.

I survived from a champ that full asura me and he is full buff and my hp is only hp 250k.I can proove it to you..just bc for me,come on Hansen..With buff I can kill some people,not all..i had full buff and I couldn't kill Matsuya

Edited June 8, 2010 by Ultimate Weapon

[Adamxd]

I survived from a champ that full asura me and he is full buff and my hp is only hp 250k.I can proove it to you..just bc for me,come on Hansen..With buff I can kill some people,not all..i had full buff and I couldn't kill Matsuya

Becuz I fking Pr0. Dont think you take buffs and can kill me heh. But i couldnt kill you too...;( buffs are pro as hell but they cost a lot of so I'm fine with them.

[Xtopher]

I don't know if we can trust the legitimacy of the opinions of GodSpeed on this topic to be honest. I mean if they're willing to blatantly abuse the disguise npc.... Just saying they're probably not the most interested in fair play.

I'm not siding with anyone. I won't QQ over some buffs, especially after watching a good bit of you guys get over confident and be pownt lol. There are some skilled players with buffs though, and those are the ones you have to actually look out for...

I will say that I hope that the administration fully tests these types of things before implementing them in the future, so that abuse is not an option.

TLDR: If buffed ppl are picking on you make some friends/join a guild and fight back the best you can... If not then I guess you could just join their guild (If you can't beat em, you join em)

Edited June 10, 2010 by Xtopher

[Genesis]

The disguiser has been reenabled since yestersay at roughly 7 PM.

PS: We did test the disguiser, but we are 1~3 people coding/testing with limited time. They had an entire guild to test for this sort of this with hours of free time to find these holes.

[Perishable]

To me, the hideout shouldn't officially be out right now. I think it's just a beta testing for the first guild that bidded for it. It's not a bad thing to remove the disguiser at the moment. They removed it until they can figure out a way to not let us go out of the hideout with disguise. We can abuse it but only inside of the Hideout. There were many ways you can disguised outside the hideout. Well, actually. It's not called abusing the disguise npc. We're just using it because it was there for us. Just like the stylist npc in fcity, it's there fo us to use because it's enabled for us. We won the Guild Hideout. There was no rules on the Biddin Topic that we weren't allowed to disguise out of the Hideout. Now we know since genesis spoked to me. Genesis have already re-endabled the disguiser back for us because he know a way to not us disguise in maps. He will activate this in all map when he has time. You guys need to stop complaining. It is what the guild hideout provides for us, it is there for us to use. If they remove stuff in there right now, the hideout would be useless and no one would bid for it. The server is trying to find out a way to help the economy and get rid of all those flooded coupons running around. Don't you miss the old day when people always buy your stuff right when you broadcast selling/buying/trading?

[D.Vampire]

All of you, Need to stop crying out about the Guild hideout and that God Speed got it 1st.

Thats how life is, So get with the times or be left behind.

[Rayray]

I don't know if we can trust the legitimacy of the opinions of GodSpeed on this topic to be honest. I mean if they're willing to blatantly abuse the disguise npc.... Just saying they're probably not the most interested in fair play.

I'm not siding with anyone. I won't QQ over some buffs, especially after watching a good bit of you guys get over confident and be pownt lol. There are some skilled players with buffs though, and those are the ones you have to actually look out for...

I will say that I hope that the administration fully tests these types of things before implementing them in the future, so that abuse is not an option.

TLDR: If buffed ppl are picking on you make some friends/join a guild and fight back the best you can... If not then I guess you could just join their guild (If you can't beat em, you em)

I just had to quote this since he had spoken what I had in mind. Well what you guys said is true too, you paid for it, and you had every right to use it. I have no problem with the buffs, I do hope the disguise npc is fixed. Just think of this, if you got killed by someone you know who got full buffs and everything, be proud of yourself dude. Just think that they need all the buffs in the world to kill you. :D If you kill them, then it's worth it :)

OK on the side of the other normal people. Yes, having buffs of exclusive classes might be a little overboard(although I do not mind it). I mean, look, almost everyone is saying it is OP(except those who had found a way to fight them) but the only ones who are saying it is not OP are obviously from GodSpeed(except again those who can fight them). I think that the reason some of you guys are saying it is not OP because you are not on the receiving end of it. Well again, you paid for it, we get it. you rich, we poor. But I do hope you guys consider what others said in this thread. And I hope you guys do not say the same old argument that almost everyone of you said. Give a valid reason why it is NOT OP besides your reasons of "we paid for it".

Just think members of Godspeed, if RM, Phantasm, Loli Kingdom or Influence got the hideout and did what you guys did with the buffs and disguise, would you just sit around and say "ahh it's ok they paid for it, it is not OP". If you guys say yes, then we all agree that it needs fixing. If you guys says no, then I might just believe that it is either not OP or some of you are hypocrites.

Edited June 9, 2010 by ZerO25

[SeNzz]

To me, the hideout shouldn't officially be out right now. I think it's just a beta testing for the first guild that bidded for it. It's not a bad thing to remove the disguiser at the moment. They removed it until they can figure out a way to not let us go out of the hideout with disguise. We can abuse it but only inside of the Hideout. There were many ways you can disguised outside the hideout. Well, actually. It's not called abusing the disguise npc. We're just using it because it was there for us. Just like the stylist npc in fcity, it's there fo us to use because it's enabled for us. We won the Guild Hideout. There was no rules on the Biddin Topic that we weren't allowed to disguise out of the Hideout. Now we know since genesis spoked to me. Genesis have already re-endabled the disguiser back for us because he know a way to not us disguise in maps. He will activate this in all map when he has time. You guys need to stop complaining. It is what the guild hideout provides for us, it is there for us to use. If they remove stuff in there right now, the hideout would be useless and no one would bid for it. The server is trying to find out a way to help the economy and get rid of all those flooded coupons running around. Don't you miss the old day when people always buy your stuff right when you broadcast selling/buying/trading?

Well all you gotta do for now is win the ladder with those buffs and get the guild hideout again in another bid isnt it som?

hahahaha

Guild hideout= Sgw then = Guild hideout again = Sgw again.

oh well if you try to get rid of those flooded coupons i do think it will just be a monopoly games for you guys.

hahaha

correct me if im wrong

[Ultimate Weapon]

Well all you gotta do for now is win the ladder with those buffs and get the guild hideout again in another bid isnt it som?

hahahaha

Guild hideout= Sgw then = Guild hideout again = Sgw again.

oh well if you try to get rid of those flooded coupons i do think it will just be a monopoly games for you guys.

hahaha

correct me if im wrong

Hansen use vr card and dragoon wizard card and bring a gypsy along to team up to ladder if ur trying to win against full buff people.

[Ultimate Weapon]

I just had to quote this since he had spoken what I had in mind. Well what you guys said is true too, you paid for it, and you had every right to use it. I have no problem with the buffs, I do hope the disguise npc is fixed. Just think of this, if you got killed by someone you know who got full buffs and everything, be proud of yourself dude. Just think that they need all the buffs in the world to kill you. :D If you kill them, then it's worth it :)

OK on the side of the other normal people. Yes, having buffs of exclusive classes might be a little overboard(although I do not mind it). I mean, look, almost everyone is saying it is OP(except those who had found a way to fight them) but the only ones who are saying it is not OP are obviously from GodSpeed(except again those who can fight them). I think that the reason some of you guys are saying it is not OP because you are not on the receiving end of it. Well again, you paid for it, we get it. you rich, we poor. But I do hope you guys consider what others said in this thread. And I hope you guys do not say the same old argument that almost everyone of you said. Give a valid reason why it is NOT OP besides your reasons of "we paid for it".

Just think members of Godspeed, if RM, Phantasm, Loli Kingdom or Influence got the hideout and did what you guys did with the buffs and disguise, would you just sit around and say "ahh it's ok they paid for it, it is not OP". If you guys say yes, then we all agree that it needs fixing. If you guys says no, then I might just believe that it is either not OP or some of you are hypocrites.

You said if you got killed by someone you know who got full buffs and everything, be proud of yourself dude. Just think that they need all the buffs in the world to kill you. :D If you kill them, then it's worth it :)

lol it's like ur saying sinx should rush to the emp and should not use 2 gloom,2 dagger,2 fbh,tg orc skeleton,desert wolf, edp+cw and try to break the emp...Yeah I'll do that when it come to woe and I will be proud of that.I'll do what you say to everyone from crying and whining.sinx use all those I just listed all those above to take advantage of getting last hit.sigh I give up on this guild hideout..too many babies crying

[Rayray]

^

and it isn't like that. yeah sinx use those skills and items because guess what, THEY COULD DO IT ALONE and as far as I know, EDP is actually a skill of a sinx. I hope you get the sarcasm. you are comparing my example of players that could kill people who got full buffs or those who died because the people fighting them need full buffs to do so to an emperium...? -_- wow.... God think before you reply... EMPERIUMS DOESN'T ATTACK

And we all know everyone rushes on the emp, it is beside my point. how come that rushing on the emp got ANYTHING to do about my statement there? It is so FUCKING RETARDED to compare breaking with EDP+CW and all the cards that helps you break with Having Party Buffs, Class exclusive buffs that you aren't suppose to have and having an npc shadow disguise to pk or pvp people. -_-

I'll state it again since you seem to be having difficulty reading what I posted. The Buffer npc is not OP for me, but to some others it will be. Not everyone thinks the same way as some of us do. ONLY YOU GUYS do not think it is not OP besides us since you guys have not yet been on the RECEIVING END OF IT. Please understand that. Yes you paid for it, so use it for now. I BEG YOU. But please stop posting arguments saying "people are just qqing because we got it" since it is indeed RETARDED to say that. people are stating things like that since they are on the receiving end of it and they believe that something is not right.

If they nerf the guild hideout, it is not a NERF on your whole guild since you wouldn't be holding that place forever, it will be a nerf to every guild here.

You didn't even answer my question. I hope on your next reply I get a DECENT and WELL THOUGHT OUT reply.

Edited June 9, 2010 by ZerO25

[Ultimate Weapon]

^

and it isn't like that. yeah sinx use those skills and items because guess what, THEY COULD DO IT ALONE and as far as I know, EDP is actually a skill of a sinx. I hope you get the sarcasm. you are comparing my example of players that could kill people who got full buffs or those who died because the people fighting them need full buffs to do so to an emperium...? -_- wow.... God think before you reply... EMPERIUMS DOESN'T ATTACK

And we all know everyone rushes on the emp, it is beside my point. how come that rushing on the emp got ANYTHING to do about my statement there? It is so FUCKING RETARDED to compare breaking with EDP+CW and all the cards that helps you break with Having Party Buffs, Class exclusive buffs that you aren't suppose to have and having an npc shadow disguise to pk or pvp people. -_-

I'll state it again since you seem to be having difficulty reading what I posted. The Buffer npc is not OP for me, but to some others it will be. Not everyone thinks the same way as some of us do. ONLY YOU GUYS do not think it is not OP besides us since you guys have not yet been on the RECEIVING END OF IT. Please understand that. Yes you paid for it, so use it for now. I BEG YOU. But please stop posting arguments saying "people are just qqing because we got it" since it is indeed RETARDED to say that. people are stating things like that since they are on the receiving end of it and they believe that something is not right.

If they nerf the guild hideout, it is not a NERF on your whole guild since you wouldn't be holding that place forever, it will be a nerf to every guild here.

OK I did a nice thought before replying..We won't bid for it again so people stop crying and wanted to quit fro or stop donating cause of this full buff.If there's a guild that won the guild hide out..I won't even complain one bit.We bid, we won with 3333k dq let us use it in peace til it expire and stfu about this buff shit..God made tree with apples..I ate it..Forsaken ro made guild hide out with npc that give full buff..we won the bid, we use it..No one was crying before we got it and they know there will be full buff but no one complain til we used it..if u end replying back..I won't reply back at all..I give up on this..

You didn't even answer my question. I hope on your next reply I get a DECENT and WELL THOUGHT OUT reply.

[Fyasko]

Wow. You guys are ridiculous; The BUFF NPC IS NOTHING. Even if we have full buff, you can kill us still. Stop complaining like you can't kill us. You guys already know how to counter it. Use valkyrie randgris. Gosh, lrn2fuckin' play a game for once. If I don't lag and I can speed asura like before, I'd always pvp in forfild with it. I aways run because i'm scared to die, cz I lag and I don't even get mad like you people. I see alot of haters already. Having alot of coupons doesn't mean your rich. Do I have alot of coupons? No; You can even ask Genesis. They can log on my account and check. We bid that high because of guildies pitched in coupons to get it. And Elimination is correct; even he sees it. YOU CAN KILL US and why are you complaining? Damn. We aren't even that good. Lol people these day. Ask your friends, guildies, whoever. And save up coupon. just bid for the Hideout next time. Just do you, and let us be us.

Sure we can kill you, but when you're devo'ed we have to kill you FOUR times for you to drop.. lol

And thank you to all those that understand. It's not even OP. It's just a new thing you have to counter. For example, Asura strike, you need ghostring to go against it. Buffs; dispell. This is Forsaken RO. Unlike every other server. Forsaken FTW. Deal with it.

It sucks when I can't survive an asura with 300k hp, full redux and assumptio......... and if you want me to dispell then maybe that incredibly low chance of casting Dispell with Valk card on a sinx should be raised.

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH........ HOLD ON JUST A SEC... U guys are crying because god speed got the guild hideout and u didnt i remember b4 guild hideout came out everyones like "i cant wait for guild hideouts i hope we win for the buffer and disguise npc" and now u guys dont have it so u cry?... that makes no sense to me what so ever because there was a bid open for everyone and we won it fair and square so now dont start crying about it now just because u didnt bid enough for it.... that makes no sense at all to me. So how about you quit complaining and just bid the next time it comes out so then u wont be crying

Just putting it out there that I thought this was a dumb idea when I first heard of it.. just sayin. And this is funny because everyone is kissing Somdara's ass right now

Edited June 9, 2010 by Fyasko

[Perishable]

If a different guild have the guild hideout, I would not mind the buffs at all. It's only been 4 days and you guys have already talked about the Hideout buffs are being overpowered. First day God Speed got the hideout, this is what Genesis said to us when I gave him the bidded Donation Coupon for the Guild Hideout. "Your guild will be strong with the buffs, and you will win WoE/PvP/etc." It was something like that, but this is in my own word from Genesis. The Buffs only buffs one Guild alittle strong from other Guilds once every two week. It's not like God Speed will get it every two week, so stop referring to us. Other Guilds will experience the Buffs and enjoy it. Buffs plus Disguiser NPC is what makes the Hideout worth bidding.

[xBiscuit]

Just putting it out there that I thought this was a dumb idea when I first heard of it.. just sayin. And this is funny because everyone is kissing Somdara's ass right now

/thread.

HAHA.

and to make things simple.

just close it. ya dig?

Edited June 10, 2010 by xBiscuit

[SeNzz]

Sure we can kill you, but when you're devo'ed we have to kill you FOUR times for you to drop.. lol

It sucks when I can't survive an asura with 300k hp, full redux and assumptio......... and if you want me to dispell then maybe that incredibly low chance of casting Dispell with Valk card on a sinx should be raised.

Just putting it out there that I thought this was a dumb idea when I first heard of it.. just sayin. And this is funny because everyone is kissing Somdara's ass right now

@Zero and Fyasko Well agreed.... You said all the things that i wanted to say.

[Adamxd]

Stop QQing learn to play. These buffs are worth their's price thats all. Im not god of speed member. K thanx

[Rayray]

hmm I'd just use prof again and start dispelling everyone at random.

and I didn't get it why you quoted me ultimate. does that mean you agree on my post after you argued against it? weird

Edited June 10, 2010 by ZerO25

[Centurion]

Just because you dont have it doesn't mean that it's OP. I bet when gonna try to get it, you wont say it is OP.

[Fyasko]

Stop QQing learn to play. These buffs are worth their's price thats all. Im not god of speed member. K thanx

Lol trust me I've learned to play.. I've played here for 2 years.. k thanx. And yes, your champ is in the guild lmao

[Shono]

David got you there madox!

[Analysis]

agree :)

[Adamxd]

I don't play it

[Ethereal]

^ I'm sorry, what? That statement is completely false. You were just using it yesterday.