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I assume this because because it is so god damn easy. "You use AD-> enemy uses GR+Usakoring+Rays/Devs; THUS AD is ineffective...*ENDLESS CYCLE*" In theory, I would say this is almost fail proof (considering one knows how to play creator). (Shortening the quotes because it's getting repetitive.) Lol, this is going in circles. I think I've stated "assume your Tao boost went into effect for creators" like 5 times. You said it yourself, with this, you would be able to invest more stats into str or int. This would mean a decent mammonite and more so if you used it with ice pick/thana. You have to consider the dilemma of the enemy deciding what to use against a creator who could use both thana and a strong neutral damage skill. I know this isn't the case for fRO, but the point I'm trying to get across is to imagine this (analogy approaching...): Let's say Thana worked with champion class for ONLY TSS. Wouldn't you think it's OP if they could do this? You have to put on skolls so his TSS wouldn't hurt, but if you put on skolls, then you're defenseless against his asura. It applies vice-versa when wearing Rays/Devs. It's OP. I'm trying to equate this to the creator from what you are suggesting. Sure, it's not exactly the same, but this gives an unfair advantage. I agree that online, a certain amount of simplicity is alright... but it's hard to understand when there aren't any punctuations... EXAMPLE (sort of off-topic): Reason for the importance of punctuation- May lead to misunderstanding. "Woman, without her man, is nothing" and "Woman: without her, man is nothing" "He eats shoots and leaves" and "He eats, shoots and leaves" It makes you look stupid, so please, give it a try. LOL, AND NICELY STATED CIRRUS.

When you have GTB and Rays on (no resistance), I highly doubt there would be a exponential difference between the absurd damage from Thana or Icepick (basically what I'm trying to say is that you'll still be dead in the end). YES, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THANA/ICEPICK IS EASILY NERFED. And no, it's not easily nerfed in the creator class' situation. Let me explain to you this delicate balance (according to what you're trying to aim for): You use AD-> enemy uses GR+Usakoring+Rays/Devs; THUS AD is ineffective. You switch to Cold Bolt-> enemy uses GR+Rays/Devs. They switch to GTB (MAYBE, they'll continue using Usakoring). You use Ice pick/Thana-> without Skolls/Usako, you rape them. Consider they switch to Skolls now-> you AD the shit out of them, thus another rape situation. *ENDLESS CYCLE* I conclude that this would make creator's OP. I can read fine. Maybe, your grammar sucks ass and that's the reason why I'm not willing to decipher your message. Instead of going off onto unrelated tangents, can you address how creator wouldn't be OP according to my reasoning?

Icepick is almost as effective as Thana when the enemy doesn't have Skolls and Usakoring on; and no, they won't do 5k-10k when the target has GTB and Rays equipped. I based my calculations considering Tao WAS boosted for creators->thus additional stats to invest onto str=mammonite damage. I believe the recent updates made Creator dagger have the ability to use Level 5 Cold bolt. Creator is not a LK. Probably last Sunday (considering I play only on Friday+weekends). Grammer please, I'm too tired to make out what your trying to say here. Restate in next comment please. I was referring to your condescending diction choice. And, here again, you're using your smart-ass attitude. Contradiction/hypocrite? So "i assume so you wouldn't know..".

Cold bolt has good damage if you use it strategically (switching between AD and bolting). I'm referring to a "strong mammonite dmg" considering if this measure was approved. Then as you said, with the additional HP, creators would have the ability to invest into stat points such as str and int, THUS resulting in a stronger mammonite. In addition, you have to consider that you can also bolt, then when they switch to GTB, you now have the option to mammonite probably around 30-50k with ice pick/thana (remember, people wear Rays/GR/Devs when fighting creator, thus no skolls + no Usakoring because they have GTB on). I used it as an example to counter-argue your outlandish claim of "95%". Every so often, I do get bored and play stalker. And yes, I strip "noobs" as well as "pros". The reason I began posting is because I do know my facts and I have read the entire thread topic to reason my point. If your counterclaims are basically pushing off my argument, my time here is done and I believe I've made my point. PS: Lose the attitude, yeah?

Ok, so basically, what you want is the ability to FCP, "infinite" speed pots (via "Lif" homunculus), a strong melee attack via mammonite, high HP, a strong magic skill- Coldbolt, and the ability to break via AD. NICE, REAL NICE. I sense OP. That is a made up statistic. Try going on a stalker and stripping 10 people daily in for_fild for a week. Of course, when they return, either they'll have FCP or will not. I bet more than 1/2 of them will not have FCP. Dude, that's only possible if the creator has low int, the target has low vit, the target has GR and Devs (which in this case, you can bolt), uses the demihuman damage reduce hats (deviling hat, santa poring hat, etc), or assumptio from ifrit rings/priest.

If they GTB, then you start AD again... quite simple.

Lol, funny how Paladins are being outclassed in their specialty of having high HP...

Agreed.

If it's a major hassle switching equips, it's laziness on your part. I switch between 3 headgears, 3 armors, 3 shields, and 2 cloaks... and I know people that do wayyyy more than I do. I suggest you use /bm. Using HP increase shoes isn't a defensive move... I would say it should be a default for creators. (FBH doesn't affect AD damage: "Causes explosion for up to 10 consecutive hits. Target's weapon and armor has a chance to be destroyed. Deals only 50% damage to other humans. Damage formula per hit is: (0.7 * Target's VIT * Creator's INT^2) / (Target's VIT + Creator's INT)", your int stat and their vit stat is all that matters.). Likewise, you can't compare the advantages and bonuses that champions receive compared to creators because they were meant to be an offensive class while creator was intended mainly for support. Lucky for you, fRO has given them some practicality with skills like Cold bolt and the ability to purchase bottles in stores. Sure, a lot of people have FCP these days, but that doesn't mean they have it on every second they PVP (Trust me, I've stripped people repeatedly when I played stalker, even after I killed them. They just came back to try again). Plus, there are always people who are too lazy to FCP, or just don't have the wealth to FCP every time they die (Like me)... and Level 5 (?) Cold bolt is not crap, LOL. ...well you're going to have to adapt if a homunculus change came. Plus, it's a two sided road: as creators would have to, all the people who would encounter the new offensive front put out by creators and their homunculus would have to adapt as well. Like I said, creators don't need it.

Hola amigo.

I agree with supream. They do not need Hp boost from Tao card. Plus, if you really wanted to use 2xFBHs, you can always buy another Fshoes and switch shoes like champions do :P. (I don't think it's really efficient to spread your stats among int, str, agi, dex, and vit though...) Plus, with FCP, AD and Coldbolt. they're pretty strong as they are now. If we had to give creators a boost, I would suggest re-making their homunculus to fit for high-rate-server PvP combat... a huge source of potential for creators.

hola amigo(a)!

Good luck to the contestants (especially on trying to cram all that info onto one screen O.O). Looking forward to seeing how it turns out...

I just read the entire topic and your artwork is amazing. Keep it up. /gawi

yah hi, server is pretty pk-oriented, so please try to understand randomers ;o anyways, have fun here in fRO.

shields can only have one card ;o

also not trying to be insensitive but, wouldn't you be at fault if he already had a novia before you knew him? also, count in that he may not have wanted to publicize his relationship. i guess it was a bit tact... just shake it off and understand that he's only one of thousands. ;D

OFFTOPIC: I learned something interesting in Literature today... In British English, "class are welcome", would be grammatically correct. In American English, "class is welcome", would be grammatically correct. The subject, if it refers to a collective group, makes a difference in British English, but not in American English. just thought it was interesting. :OOOO

Basco's are still useless i think. if you don't have 2 int belts, 2 cookie cards are available. i've seen some weird combat priests though (many builds utilize thana to be successful tho). Experiment with demihuman reduction+coma+ifrit rings ;D

Hola amigo

OMG, If this passes, I can play my pd/flee baby sinx again <3

I like copying Kamaitachi for stalker n____n For LSoI, I may be mistaken, but I remember reading that it was glitched regarding the MATK modifier from 70% to 90-100% (I don't recall), hence the popularity of the skill. Can someone verify xd. What I suggest for cards... (from my experiences): Headgear- 1 Maya p and 3 Kiels (Magic build) 1 F. sol. and 3 Kiels (FS/Fuuma build) Armor; Tao and OL 2 Taos Weapon; 3 Kingring (Magic) 2 Tgens 2 Civil Servants (FS- I used main gauge + ice pick xD) Shield; Fshield- GTB, usako Another shield- Alice, Maya Boots; 2 FBHs Cloak; Assassin Cross Card + Skoll Assassin Cross Card is REALLY USEFUL if you don't know how to spam that jumping skill. Accessories; 2 Ints Sight and Blast Clip Since you appear to enjoy this class, you should try FS and Fuuma builds (or hybrids). It's as fun as magic xd. Overall, interesting guide on ninja. /gawi

You have a lot of HP (liek 100k more than my clown).

That is a lie. Goldenring (Hydra and Goldring) simply doesn't stack efficiently with FBH. Use this: 2 Tgens, 2 Civil Servants, 1 FBH = 2 Tgens, 1 Civil Servant, 1 Goldenring, 1 FBH (in dmg modifier). That is the best combination for full asura (unless you have thana...). this is actually worse than the said suggestions. In fact, 1 Tgen, 1 Civil Servant, 1 Skeleton Worker, 1 Goldenring, 1 FBH is better than 2 Goldenring, 2 Tgen, 1 FBH regarding your champ build... (I'm not champ main so I don't know if I'm doing a disservice to you...) Fhelm and Fallen Ghost - 1-2 Kiels + cards that give Str bonus. Because you are going for a one-shot-kill, being able to speed isn't going to be very helpful. Armor - OL + Holy Reflect other Champs and Holy because it has nice def mods. Cloak - Assassin Cross and Hollowring A defensive measure. Boots - Fallen Bishop Hibram and Lady Tanee Agreed. Knux - 2 Turtle General and 2 Civil Servants. Explained above. 2 Str Belts Although unconventional, if you can, try multi-clienting and provoke yourself (very amusing) for additional damage.