nate1002

of course you can, it just pretty hard and take some effort to implement it properly without making people cry.

yup, i agree. In the long run it will just be more people on map with lesser zeny on each. But new players (They still need to be able to 1hit acidus to get decent zeny/hr, and a sniper can easily do that with FAS and legend gears) can go there and try their luck and hard work. And i also agree turning off pk is only a temporary fix. well, rms.net stated their spawn rate is 60/10mins, so this makes the "turning off pk" less viable. if they instant spawn, it will be a complete different scenario

Firstly i would like to call out the idiots. All players knew perfectly well this is a PK server, and we play this best high rate server because players like to pvp and to be in this server. And this is discussed in a post for a specific reason. Please read what people type and think deeper with your head, then comment with a more specific and solid reason and make this constructive. (For example, you can simply say you enjoy killing under geared player in abyss_03 but dislike getting PVP token in a real pvp environment. Turning of PK ruined your fun.) Now, i can go back and comment: As Rayray and Sartorius19 already covered most points, i am just gonna restate things i agreed on. In the situation of Farming zeny, PK off in abyss_03 can let more under geared players with enough damage to farm there for the boxes and it surely will let new player get more zeny. For gearing purpose, right now detale has no key gear drops so players hunt him for quest items. If you are new and try to get gears u should hunt Ktullanux first then all other mvps or just simply camp at the mvp room NOT hunting detale... (if you want detale card, just broadcast and buy them for cheap, there will be players happily sell them to you) For quest purpose, just think of the 9realm quest items. Certain things harder to hunt because they may meant to be "rare" in the server. For fair chances of getting detale loot, sart19 had a pretty good suggestion (plus some mmo uses that feature too). Or read what rayray said, because i do the similar thing with my guildmates to secure drops from mvp. So in the light of "more zeny for newbie", I would say +1 to turn off PK in abyss_03 but i don't think this can help new players with the detale since the loot will belongs to player with more damage output. Plus, it will only be a short term fixed, since there seems to be a growing number of players but not growing places for farming even though mobs are instant spawn, there are limits for player per maps. If i think of the longer term changes, I would think there could be another custom map for zeny faming purpose (BUT not as high zeny per hour as abyss_03 unless players learn to group up and farm), then we can leave the abyss_03 as they were now. I can foresee people will talk about seed and berry farming, but well you sell them to players, not npc.

What trigger you all to build and/or reside in forsaken city?

Virael, I am sure you did not read the site carefully. 1. Blue vote Valk helm can be exchanged to other coloured vote valk helm in @warp for_elite 67 102. 2. Not currently. But king version of wolf pup would be great to have, and you can suggest it in the forum. However, the best lower headgear items right now are Blessed/cursed rings. Plus, vote cape is one of the best option before you transit to lower headrings. You can also quest for the non-donation ring, but I personally doubt its practicality in game. You seem to be confused about what the server offers to players. Here are some infos, 1. Raiding and donating gives you all sorts of cool looking kings headgear, Normal king set can be purchase with 100 tok(for each piece) in kings room. Cheaper if purchased from players. 2. Activity, Event, GvG, PvP, BR token let you further gear up accordingly for raiding. 3. Currently, most player know when to swap gears to get the anti-frozen effects in desired situation, and it all comes down to pvp experience. (But king wolf pup can be nice to have in the future, but since it may affects pvp, it could be better to have a post to discuss it properly.) 4. Vote king sets are a perfect alternative gearing option for players who wanted to experience the server before donating. And again vote cape is one of the best option before you have a lower headrings. Plus, it is perfectly possible to get fully geared without any donation, it just you need to put more time and play more server content in a specific way. Well, if you only play around wolf pup in all of your characters it certainly can be a bit frustrating now. But legend wolf pup is kind of a new item in the server, so I guess you may want to wait for the new content in the future. Hope this helps. :)

+1. looks great. well done you guys. If implemented, i can take HW seriously and get mine gear up.

Plus most players cant do simple math.

Oh, and one thing, the PK server reasoning is not a smart reasoning, those players are probably new to PK server or blind. Its easy to spot them if they are there to kill people and think they can farm faster. And I have friends farm there just to kill off those players who spam FAS and SG without looking, yea she is crazy.

well done, detailed in how you did it and newbie friendly. But do try to sell zeny for tok (at least 1bn to 60tok), all the items you said you bought are slightly over priced. So, try your best to trade with tok if they cost over 100m. Abyss_03 is kinda fun, plus you will eventually have a HW, sniper and champ, because they are too easy to use and not that hard to gear for farming. Plus there isnt much going on in RO in general lol. And well, i am a donor and i do farming sometimes, its like having a break. Anyways, here is another map you can try out, @warp moc_pryd04. Aim: ONE hit Isis for 2,3carat diamonds (fill your backpack with junk so you only @autoloot those diamonds) Gears: Legend hammer with 4 minorous card (Or 1 zipper bear + 3mino for purple box farming as well) Any armour with bathory card (So mimic cant stun lock you if you decided to walk in the map, and of cause you can always @warp) Any Boots with moonlight card Cape with gaint whisper card or choco (there isnt much interesting option in RO cards) Buff: Normal power thrust (No need for maximum P-T, yup haha) Cart boost (if no moonlight card) What to do on the map: 1. Type @autoloot and cast your buff 2. Spam Tomahawk and 1-hit isis (HighSpeedCartRam if no Legend hammer) 3. @warp or walk to hunt another group of isis Pros: Look at the gear requirements... Cons: 3rd to 4th fastest zeny farming only Trash drops from Osiris. (Yup, you may want to hunt some mvp when you are farming, but sadly osiris gives nothing in this server) Can be a bit boring if you dont like Egyptian cartoon.

Try fitnessfirst or pure if you want to meet new faces. Or any independent one with at least 3+ set of barbell and plenty of weight plates, or custom equipment if you are serious about training. But well, i have no idea what are the context of your question. lmao

By donation room, if you mean kings room, there is only angeling wings id#15027. I guess #15210 is old donation then.

Thanks for the post, i laughed, hahaha. There are so many inconsistency in this post. If you are talking about vote gear, thats probably not a GM, just a normal player fking around with you and genesis. Type @warp for_bar 250 290. look for vote redeemer. If thats really a GM you talked to, he probably thought you bought the donation armour. Hope you knew this before i post this.

What if he has a point to tell us? (probably not a good one tho) So, i suggest we let him find out himself. :th_gg: Try pvp with your sprint set and 4 silver, let us know the stats, Such as 1. how many times of you get a kill by only spamming your skills.(no normal attack) 2. how many times you die to what status effects. 3. how many times you die to invisible enemy. 4. how many times you die to 1 hit. 5. longest kill streaks and conclude by telling us how you feel with your performance with sprint set 4silvers. :th_no1:

Thanks aerofox, the past and KD. :)

Following are the list of aesthetic wings/ lower headgear I wanted to have. And I wonder if there is a way to acquire them in the server now, or I can only purchase from other players? Because i cant even see it in the token shop... Angel wing id#15210 Siva id#15487 Death angel id#15039 Gaia wing id#15624 Many thanks Nate