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still, not every class uses millions just to pvp. as creators use yggs too, we pvp using more zeny(if we buy yggs or dcoupons to buy yggs) than any other class. it is not to cater laziness, but rather practicality on the part of creators which are rarely used in pvp, almost all the creators I know are just fcpers. and I really cannot see the point of "influx" in zeny. do you guys still expect that the zeny economy would get better? again we creators are the ONLY ones who buys items so that we could use one skill and per cast it costs us 30k(thinking we used stalkers to buy the bottles) AND creators are so few, how the hell with that cost influx if only about 10 creators would benefit from it(stating that I only know and see 10 creators that actually use the class to pvp). fighting decent people, 100+ bottles wouldn't kill him if he is sane enough to get fcp or use unbreakable armor with gr,usakoring shield and deviling, unlike most classes who can pretty much kill people even if they use that. Snipers can deal as much as damage as one cast of AD and yet their arrows are unlimited and DS is just as spammable as AD without needing Kiels. See my point? Making AD cost a lot(for newer guys and some of us who aren't billionaires in this game or have the time to hunt stone of sage and/or armor just to be able to buy bottles) actually makes us think twice of using the class. mos people think it is cheap because it is like 20k per bottle(40k just for a cast of AD) but as if we could kill with just one to two casts of it. stone of sages cost 50k when sold, meaning just for one cast of AD we have to hunt one stone of sage. i know people say we could always hunt, but not all of us got the time. just lower it a bit, I am not asking too much, just not 3m per fight(normally i use up 100+ bottles in a few minutes of pvp mind you and i can only kill few people)

champ doesn't cost 3m per fight to use. yggs are so abundant in the server to be compared to it. if it can be hunted i won't suggest it but it isn't. stalkers reduce the price to 15k per bottle. 100 of each bottle would amount to 3m. every fight when I use creator, I have to farm stone of sage after it

reduce the price at least where we do not waste 3m on 100 casts

crit doesn't hit PD. anyway ,use skills. skills won't miss on PD so use Soul destroyer, sand attack or sonic blow

broadcasting already hurts my zeny stock :)) buying 1k AD bottles for 20k x 2 = 40,000,00. 1k bottles actually would be out in a few hours of pvp.

^ try fighting in lms or somewhere else and see how much it would cost you. creators have carts, yes but making them weigh more means less yggs to carry anyway. I cannot understand how it would affect zeny so much when we only buy it from an NPC. it's not like new players create AD bottles and sell them by the bulk. Since they also said that not a lot of guys/girls use creator anyway so how will that affect the zeny economy so much to cripple it if about 1/32 of the population is a creator?

its been ages and it is still like that.

yeah I do not get that actually. they might be referring to people selling coupons to get zeny for them to use AD but it isn't exactly what everyone does it costs 15k each on stalker discount so that is 300k on 20 bottles x 2 = 600k on 20 casts of AD. what other class waste zeny that much on just using skills. WS only waste 5k on each CT and the others do not have to. btw creators have to spam it so they are spamming their zeny too.

i do not know if this has been suggested before but I think AD bottles cost so much. Yeah, zeny is easy enough to get but still, having to buy bottles just to pvp and such would, in some time, be annoying if you do not have enough zeny. I do not really know why AD should be consumable when the skill is so easily counterable by fcp and GR+usakoring shield/ deviling. I know i might be bashed here but at least I think lowering the AD bottles cost some more would help players, especially new ones, and actually boost the creator class a little(instead of making 2/3 of their population fcp slaves). To be honest, I would rather have them like our arrows and bullets here, but if that would be too much then just lower the cost a little bit more. so my suggestion is 1. make it like our arrows here(unlimited) but give it a penalty perhaps?(weight? i dunno) 2. Make it cost a little less than now where it isn't much of a hindrance

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A new donation katar would be nice(that would give emphasis on soul destroyer if it's possible) but it should still be 2 handed. a 10%(i actually suggest 15% or less) reducts would be nice, but it isn't needed.

Yay are we going to add one handed gunslinger guns then? *sarcasm* they made the one handed bows because Snipers are underpowered when it comes to pvping against other classes, beats me why they made the stalker bow and let it have reducts. imagine people spamming sonic blow and having 55% reducts and having the 3rd greatest hp pool in the server.

imagine that, I got about 100 edp tickets once and I have trouble using them all up. FCP tickets dropping at the castle would make them useless for those who wants to sell them. what happened to edp would happen to fcp, edp hunting was once a viable option to gain coupons.

^ what they said

agree, it is kinda pointless in my view, I'd rather have the cart boost especially as most people attacks ws using their vr card.

Every Breath you take- The Police

WS hurts if you didn't use shield and you got ip/thana. on incant, its damage is so easily beaten by spamming yggs.

wouldn't that card be too OP for champs? well if it only WORKS in the throne room it might be plausible but I kinda disagree on giving anymore different class skill to other classes unless they are in much need of it(e.g. increase weight limit for mage classes) I agree on changing pouring card though.

^ I agree with sorrow, I cannot use my WS well since, my sinx outdamage it while i just point and click at something. come on guys, I haven't seen someone using an incant weapon do more than 25k damage on people with shields, most likely they deal like 15k-18k.

if Gravity would sue private servers, they have to sue eAthena first :p

avoid showing off by saying all the great things you did. like everyone said, be yourself. that's it :)

You'll see more Rave adventure characters and weapons/pwoers in there :))

a reducts battle priest with thanatos is harder to kill than reducts stalkers. :p