I do agree with this because even if you do have a gang of 10 people with you a full asura champ with gospel, provoke , ws buffs all that can just come in kill one person and take another kill with defaulting 2x OL's. That's not what ladder is suppose to be and has never been like that but theres so little people actually trying to do ladder now that people like this can actually take 1st and 2nd place before they wouldnt make it in the top 5 because we had more active players but things have changed. PvP ladder was suppose to be whoever can PVP the best gets first place, not whoever reflect kills enough people gets rewarded for it.