I do PvP sometimes with My HW, and I know for a fact I have killed people who where Not out of berry/seed, and I know they were not afking cause they was atking me,
I know what your saying but the thing is Normal status set up for a HW if you had 4 pandarings ( 40% add to stave in all) and try to hit someone it miss alot more, was all I ment. ^_^
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BTW isnt SG+MS combo kinda silly, I may be wrong but their elements are not really a boost for one another. Like I said I may be wrong but Ive never used SG+MS because of their elemental Propertys ...?.? Anyone else??