A Little Love For O.crit

[p3wp3w]

O. Crit has been getting unappreciated for a while now because of the 'love' that has been given to O.dex.

For example, O.dex has a higher stat given to the wielder, apart from that, this goes to the roof when you got O.loki's dagger on the offhand.

Added by, the fact that thana's been widely used now by most breakers. i know that thana card doesnt give a stable damage, tho the spike damage from this, is really too OP compared to any other build for breaking emperiums.

I tried to figure out what caused this 'unappreciation' for o.crit.

And these are what i found

• O.crit doesn't have additional damage with critical attacks but has 15% more damage to Demihumans vs. L.crit who has 10% additional critical damage, but doesnt have the latter (additional damage to demi-humans)
• Ocrit + O.fenrir(which is a dual wield standard for crit breaker) doesnt do much on for crit breakers, vs. Odex + O.Loki's Dagger (which now has great stat buff, better survival rate, and best with thana card, which is not applicable with Crit breakers.
• Thanatos card has been widely distributed now to those who can afford it, breakers switching to DexThana Breakers, and making them viable for breaking emp, as well as for PvP during woe. While on the other hand for Crit breakers, they can only break emp, and they're as fragile af whenever they reach emp.
• Furthermore, the difference between the counterpart rings.

So, with these said, i still believe, that Ares' aim for making these updates, is to fully balance everything, and as well as create more playing style for everybody. And i strongly suggest to get O.crit & O.dex, as well as their off-hand counterparts, to be as balanced as possible, with the fact that Thanatos card is available to everybody who affords it.

I hope we meet somewhere on my point here.

Edited September 13, 2016 by p3wp3w

[Ares]

When you say balance, it shouldn't always mean everything deals a very strong damage. There are still crit build sinx out there and there are several reasons why crit is still doing well:

1) crit build is the cheapest build for sinx which is great for newbies

2) crit build gives more HP to sinx

3) crit build deals a fixed damage unlike thana/inca build wherein you deal very low or very high damage

4) there is a card that increases dramatically the crit damage which you can farm (not bijou / amadarias)

5) very easy stats with the correct gears

Remember that the game is very complex (which I really love) and strength/damage isn't the only variable to getting the break.

[p3wp3w]

However, can you explain to me how balanced the crit breaker sinxs, to dexthana breaker sinxs to PvP when the situation calls?

1. about those long-playing people, they'd definitely prefer going dex, than crit.

2. If you're pertaining to the stat allocation that can be saved from LUK to VIT, i'd prefer having an equip with more bonus stats, + Max HP%

3.fixed.y yea, i'd agree to that.

4. If you're talking about The Paper Card, additional 20% critical damage, each card, is just like wasting weapon card slots if im gonna be focusing on the Critical damage bonus modifier.

5. No.arguement about this.

Edited September 13, 2016 by p3wp3w

[Nas]

However, can you explain to me how balanced the crit breaker sinxs, to dexthana breaker sinxs to PvP when the situation calls?

1. about those long-playing people, they'd definitely prefer going dex, than crit.

2. If you're pertaining to the stat allocation that can be saved from LUK to VIT, i'd prefer having an equip with more bonus stats, + Max HP%

3.fixed.y yea, i'd agree to that.

4. If you're talking about The Paper Card, additional 20% critical damage, each card, is just like wasting weapon card slots if im gonna be focusing on the Critical damage bonus modifier.

5. No.arguement about this.

1: Crit always better than dex.

2: i got 380hp with ifrits+bless+ultimaboots, that more than enough for long run to break(unless you YOLO type)

3:absolutely,fixed and high(just lack on double damage like dagger user)

4:please,the paper is good. You're not gonna waste it.(unless you put 8abyss,then its LOL)

5:+1

[Ares]

There's another card you need to research on other than Paper card.

[p3wp3w]

1: Crit always better than dex.

2: i got 380hp with ifrits+bless+ultimaboots, that more than enough for long run to break(unless you YOLO type)

3:absolutely,fixed and high(just lack on double damage like dagger user)

4:please,the paper is good. You're not gonna waste it.(unless you put 8abyss,then its LOL)

5:+1

1. Not anymore since Thanatos card BOOMED.

2. oh yea? you got those? so how would you do with last minute breaking? would you still go with the same gears? if yes, you don't make me believe that you can break with that. else, i dont believe that you'll get pretty much good HP, specially with 2Abyss, 2FBH on.

4. i know paper is good. But do you still deny that getting 2 paper cards is worse than getting 1 thana? especially, getting thana saves 1 more slot which, is another advantage for dexThana breakers.

[Nas]

1:omg sir. Im pointing crit and dex. Which is without thana(dex) and crit. (Not meaning of ori dex)

2:Even with odex,2fbh,2abyss you will die without good devo,(and yes i got those,ill not talking without exprience)

4: your point is compared both crit and thana,while your topic is "need love for crit". No doubt thana is good,but crit isnt bad at all.

[c0okiee]

i think ur concentrating attention in the wrong area :D

O.crit as far as im concerned is good still with stats and many ppl use it for pvp and on redux sinx for the perfect dodge it provides and its good for breaking too just use more cards dude... lol only paper on combo lacks dmg as [GM]Ares suggested many other cards are available to u..

u shld concentrate on adressing the Sinx B ring which cld get some benifits as far im concerned id rather use Sinx C ring with o.crit for dmg and just build str+luk on my stats for the dmg output caz frankly B ring doesnt give benefits i cant get through stats myself.

And again as [GM]Ares suggested there is a card (not amadarius/bijou) which helps crit sinx and it practically is the cheapest breaker u can build and its efficient

The dmg is high and u get higher dmg then inca build on o.dex+o.lokisdagger if properly used caz u dont waste 1 slot for inca As far as thana goes in pvp its high or low as said depending on skolls or vit defense of opponent... and the double damage from dagger sinx is just more hits not necesarily higher dmg maybe equal though :D

And for HP well both builds are really the same i feel caz u get about 300k hp or more with both builds Sinx Has high hp

Edited September 13, 2016 by c0okiee

[Nas]

Yeah,when we talk about sinx build. It will be chaos between old/new build,combos,rings,timing etc.

Just stick to what you think good for you. Gl hf

[Rayray]

Crit build also has the added feature of being able to fight other players when needed without needing to switch weapons on the main hand(when breaking), dex would need to switch around to be able to attack players if their original setup is for breaking.

Crit build is way cheaper as well, without losing much dps against thana users. Only dagger users with thanatos can out dps a crit build in the end, but it takes time since their damage is not consistent.

[p3wp3w]

Alright, why don't you try to make an argument on why would a rich/long-playing player, choose thana breaker? I'd appreciate it if you mention some. If not, i'd still believe that Crit Breakers are broken.

[Nas]

Sigh. It cause of they afford it. Its obviously like step to step,hardwork to gain thana,cause we all know thana is exp, then ofc rich/long playing afford em lul. Like i said,thana is good but crit is not bad at all. Breaking its not easy as u thought sir, i bet you will complaint about thana when you didnt break with it. Lul. There's alot people use crit and able to break. Or why not being humble and ask oldies? They sure expr it alot.

[Ares]

I don't think there's a need to improve Assassin Crit Dagger. Its stat bonuses are good enough for crit type breakers.

[SweetTooth]

I think i got the point of it.... I think crit types can only go for a short time or I mean by that like gm said crit type is good for newbie right?? How about If a player or long old player/rich wants to go full build crit type? Lets just say that dex type c.ring with thana is a late game player while crit type is just early game to mid game like gm said it is the cheapest build. Lets just say c.ring has more benefits than b.ring. the point of this post could be balance or equality between the curse type and bless type. Sinx crit type this days is quiting and changing to c.ring or other classes cause they are getting owned by the new meta and class out there. Disregarding O.crit. it should be between the two.

I am a Sinx crit build myself..... And I think its not that bad its fun being sinx crit.type. but other people is getting into temptation and going for the op one or what they think is more powerful build and class. Why not just love your class.

Edited October 7, 2016 by SweetTooth