Rayray Posted September 7, 2016 Report Posted September 7, 2016 I get the point, however your suggestion is making lokis blade only main hand so that you can easily switch between 2 lokis(which is the only possible way to code it in game), something I can't get on board of since it would hinder dagger sinx who uses the said weapons as offhand.Won't hurt to use another weapon for off hand? Sure, if there are other blades designed specifically to be offhand and gives the damage I get on loki's then I would agree. However, listening to that kinda pisses me off(no offense, I know you don't mean it). Because it sounds to me that you are telling me to adjust my build simply because you cannot switch main hand weapons that well. oh and fyi, I use daggers as off hand as well, I did not say I only use my loki's as offhand. I constantly switch around them, either to throw people off their seeding or use status effects/stripping. To make this all make sense: I don't really switch using hotkeys on dagger sinx, I leave my alt+e and alt+q open and switch on the fly. I was used to this so that may explain it.
Nas Posted September 7, 2016 Report Posted September 7, 2016 I get the point, however your suggestion is making lokis blade only main hand so that you can easily switch between 2 lokis(which is the only possible way to code it in game), something I can't get on board of since it would hinder dagger sinx who uses the said weapons as offhand. Won't hurt to use another weapon for off hand? Sure, if there are other blades designed specifically to be offhand and gives the damage I get on loki's then I would agree. However, listening to that kinda pisses me off(no offense, I know you don't mean it). Because it sounds to me that you are telling me to adjust my build simply because you cannot switch main hand weapons that well. oh and fyi, I use daggers as off hand as well, I did not say I only use my loki's as offhand. I constantly switch around them, either to throw people off their seeding or use status effects/stripping. To make this all make sense: I don't really switch using hotkeys on dagger sinx, I leave my alt+e and alt+q open and switch on the fly. I was used to this so that may explain it. Chill ray. Cookie point is just to inject some good idea about switching,that you just need press 1hotkey rather than alt+e and alt+q like u said. Its comfortable issue, and i dont see any problem with it. Tbh u said that you also use dagger as off-hand. So i dont think this bit change gonna ruined your entire build.
c0okiee Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Posted September 7, 2016 wait now im confused u said sinx is all about *switching weapons and keeping buffs up* whats wrong in what im asking for,,, and YES this will deeply effect my build caz i wanna keep interchanging btwn (thana/Inca)correct me if im wrong so ur saying just so u can use 1 extra weapon in offhand (which btw the damage isnt that effective gradient compared to MAIN HAND) so i have to Alt+q and Alt+e and learn to change weapons by FIRST dequiping my LOKIS blade from Alt+q then clicking on the other lokis blade in alt+e (oh Dont forget all this while a GS is spaming Full buster or a champ spamming asura on me OR Id have to back slide away some 10 times and then do it YES so easy INSTEAD OF CLICKING 1 button on /bm and changing it lol) Well if i did piss u off it wasnt my intention but u implying my idea is retarded is wrong bro ppl wish to make life easier Im happy ur pro with sinx but u dont need This Weapon which by the way u can make a build easily w/o but SD build people wld rely on switching let me tell u its stats Lokis Cursed Blade(Sword) +25 str,Agi+15,Vit+10,Int+40,Aspd+5,Increase dmg with SD by 50% Why on earth wld u not see that this weapon is primary weapon for SD and its hell to switch weapons during a fight w/o it being main hand... if u dont support my idea U can just say u don't like it Stop making it sound retarded AS Switching weapons IS PRIMARY IN ANY FIGHT (and also stop condescending urself im not judging but its kinda rude)
Ares Posted September 8, 2016 Report Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Im just wild guessing here but I think what cookiee is trying to say is: He wants to inter-switch between 2 lokis blade on the main hand without affecting/removing the off hand Apparently, it's not possible because of how RO programmed it. What I will do is manually remove the main hand and then equip the desired weapon. Edited September 8, 2016 by Ares
Rayray Posted September 8, 2016 Report Posted September 8, 2016 Chill ray. Cookie point is just to inject some good idea about switching,that you just need press 1hotkey rather than alt+e and alt+q like u said. Its comfortable issue, and i dont see any problem with it. Tbh u said that you also use dagger as off-hand. So i dont think this bit change gonna ruined your entire build. It does a bit. Loki's as offhand is my damaging weapon to help the main hand. Losing it makes me lose a significant amount of DPS(i tested it a lot). wait now im confused u said sinx is all about *switching weapons and keeping buffs up* whats wrong in what im asking for,,, and YES this will deeply effect my build caz i wanna keep interchanging btwn (thana/Inca)correct me if im wrong so ur saying just so u can use 1 extra weapon in offhand (which btw the damage isnt that effective gradient compared to MAIN HAND) so i have to Alt+q and Alt+e and learn to change weapons by FIRST dequiping my LOKIS blade from Alt+q then clicking on the other lokis blade in alt+e (oh Dont forget all this while a GS is spaming Full buster or a champ spamming asura on me OR Id have to back slide away some 10 times and then do it YES so easy INSTEAD OF CLICKING 1 button on /bm and changing it lol) Well if i did piss u off it wasnt my intention but u implying my idea is retarded is wrong bro ppl wish to make life easier Im happy ur pro with sinx but u dont need This Weapon which by the way u can make a build easily w/o but SD build people wld rely on switching let me tell u its stats Lokis Cursed Blade(Sword) +25 str,Agi+15,Vit+10,Int+40,Aspd+5,Increase dmg with SD by 50% Why on earth wld u not see that this weapon is primary weapon for SD and its hell to switch weapons during a fight w/o it being main hand... if u dont support my idea U can just say u don't like it Stop making it sound retarded AS Switching weapons IS PRIMARY IN ANY FIGHT (and also stop condescending urself im not judging but its kinda rude) First of all, I've been using loki's as offhand SINCE IT CAME OUT, and that is like 2010 or 2011. SD builds only got the buff JUST RECENTLY. You are asking to make a change to a weapon while hindering other builds that uses it, when it already works as intended for both builds. That was my issue. You already put out the stats for loki's blade. You say I switch to using infernal dagger or others like hel right? the stats for infernal is: STR + 15, AGI + 15, VIT + 10, INT + 15, ATK + 5. Unbreakable. [black Oriental Dexterity Sword] STR + 10, VIT + 20, Max HP + 10% Increase damage to demihuman by 10%. [Loki’s Cursed Blade] Max HP + 10% Increase damage with Soul Destroyer by 50% Increase damage with Meteor Assault by 50% the stats of hel is Str + 8 Agi + 8 Dex + 8 Max SP + 15% Increase damage on demihumans by 5% Increase damage on Small sized monsters by 10% The difference on stats is big. hence I always have used Loki's as offhand when I needed to go full damage. The only way I would consider the infernal as my offhand to go to is when I use the dex sword myself. But not really gonna consider it as much as offhand on dagger if I wanted to go full damage(breaking etc). But fine. I'll give in since I am probably the only one who still uses dagger sinx to pvp. If it is that much important and you find it hard to switch mainhand weapons on sinx then so be it.
Rayray Posted September 8, 2016 Report Posted September 8, 2016 Apparently, it's not possible because of how RO programmed it. What I will do is manually remove the main hand and then equip the desired weapon. That's the part the OP does not like. Is there really no way to implement it?
c0okiee Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Posted September 8, 2016 AMg nuuuuuu Theres no way u can make it a Main Hand weapon like how O.crit or O.dex is? T_T there goes my hopes lol damn
c0okiee Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Posted September 8, 2016 Iv been using Ice pick[1] as a replacement so i get the thana effect till date caz i cldnt change the lokis blade weapon during pvp it serves as a good alternative i guess but the stats and dmg+% bonus is a negative factor in this alternative which the lokis blade gives :( so if any other SD build players wanna switch to thana try using ice pick if u want or manually equiping i guess which sucks T_T