Ares Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 I would just like to ask the community, which do you prefer if we talk about Systems / solutions, SAP or Oracle? Why? What are the strong and weak points of each?
wikedbazist Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) oracle coz its cheaper in some basis oracle has some upper hand when it come to cloud adoption, most small businesses depend on cloud technology Edited October 27, 2015 by wikedbazist
Ares Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Posted October 27, 2015 oracle coz its cheaper in some basis oracle has some upper hand when it come to cloud adoption, most small businesses depend on cloud technology What are the downside of Oracle for you?
wikedbazist Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) -you need a big RAM in your pc -it's not that easy to configure -if your business is expanding, your expenses in oracle does to lol -they don’t really share computing resource pools in a way - not self-provisioned Edited October 27, 2015 by wikedbazist
Ares Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Posted October 27, 2015 -you need a big RAM in your pc -it's not that easy to configure -if you business is expanding, your expenses in oracle does to lol -they don’t really share computing resource pools in a way - not self-provisioned Great inputs my friend. I'm asking this because my company does ERP, CRM, etc. I just wanted to know how many people here are SAP and Oracle developers and hear what they have to say. :D 1
Rayray Posted October 28, 2015 Report Posted October 28, 2015 Well, this is basically a "windows or linux" type of question: The answer is use what is best for the job. SAP has a very strong focus on ERP compared to Oracle. Oracle on the other hand has better database applications compared to SAP.We now live in a very advanced world with regards to technology. You literally cannot just choose one and hope that it fits for everything you need. I cannot really give an honest answer because I do not really know what you need, and if I do give one, it might be wrong and point you to the wrong direction. You cannot look at different technologies with a pros and cons list, it just does not work that way. Use what fits the job. You don't necessarily use Ruby on Rails to build a simple web app when you can use Sinatra. Nor will you use both of those technologies when just html5 and css will do the job. It is also hard to ask advice about this, because programmers will ALWAYS be biased to what they used. I have unworldly hatred to PHP because of how messy it is, but tons of people will claim it to be the best simply because Facebook use it(which they had to because they NEED to). My girlfriend gets confused in Ruby(and Rails) because she is a C# and .NET developer, and would obviously prefer to use that to build something. Hundreds of companies look for Java developers simply because it is one of the most popular language there is, even if it is starting to falter in certain areas(it gained popularity again due to Android though). Bottomline is: Try to study both, and see which fits your problem. If the problem is hiring people that has experience on either SAP or Oracle, then that is the root of the problem. Hire people that has the fundamentals down and have good programming practices. Doesn't matter what language he specialize in, or what systems he used to use. A decent programmer can study a new language/system/whatever as long as he got the logic and fundamentals already.
Ares Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Posted October 28, 2015 Well, this is basically a "windows or linux" type of question: The answer is use what is best for the job. SAP has a very strong focus on ERP compared to Oracle. Oracle on the other hand has better database applications compared to SAP. We now live in a very advanced world with regards to technology. You literally cannot just choose one and hope that it fits for everything you need. I cannot really give an honest answer because I do not really know what you need, and if I do give one, it might be wrong and point you to the wrong direction. You cannot look at different technologies with a pros and cons list, it just does not work that way. Use what fits the job. You don't necessarily use Ruby on Rails to build a simple web app when you can use Sinatra. Nor will you use both of those technologies when just html5 and css will do the job. It is also hard to ask advice about this, because programmers will ALWAYS be biased to what they used. I have unworldly hatred to PHP because of how messy it is, but tons of people will claim it to be the best simply because Facebook use it(which they had to because they NEED to). My girlfriend gets confused in Ruby(and Rails) because she is a C# and .NET developer, and would obviously prefer to use that to build something. Hundreds of companies look for Java developers simply because it is one of the most popular language there is, even if it is starting to falter in certain areas(it gained popularity again due to Android though). Bottomline is: Try to study both, and see which fits your problem. If the problem is hiring people that has experience on either SAP or Oracle, then that is the root of the problem. Hire people that has the fundamentals down and have good programming practices. Doesn't matter what language he specialize in, or what systems he used to use. A decent programmer can study a new language/system/whatever as long as he got the logic and fundamentals already. I was waiting for you to respond in this topic. Yes, we also did have the conversation about me using PHP. The question I gave is very generic. Okay. Time to be more direct. You might misinterpret me but I'm not bragging or anything okay? I'm asking this question because in two years time, I will put up a bigger IT company. We will be developing a lot of systems as a service but will focus more on what I currently sell to the market, ERP. You see, I will be taking the risks and will take a small bite in the market against the giants. I used to work in a big company that uses SAP but haven't seen Oracles' systems. My future company will try to compete and I would like to know who among these guys use SAP or Oracle so I can get feedback from them as well. :)
Rayray Posted October 29, 2015 Report Posted October 29, 2015 Oh yeah, but I think you use some sort of framework for PHP? Which kinda fixes some of its faults so there we go :D There's nothing wrong to brag about that, I myself am part of a small group that is trying to make their own startup, it's just that our jobs are in the way atm :P(we are making retro type games on android). If the main focus is on ERP, SAP would do the job better then, as that is exactly what SAP focuses on, and is a bit better on that field than Oracle. If by chance, you will be a company that would tailor a system or application according to a client, then it will depend on their needs and will make you really take a big risk by trying to use either SAP or Oracle. It's not so much as which is better really, it is who can SELL a lot better. It does not matter what you use at that point, it depends on HOW you sell it. Also, since you have experience on SAP, the choice is there. It will take less time for you to use SAP than you to try and start learning Oracle. This is only true if time is a priority.To give you a little idea, and this me solely remembering stuff I heard from friends in the field, Accenture has people/groups on SAP with regards to their business solutions, while the same company also has people/groups on Oracle when it regards to financial management(oracle is better in that aspect)
Ares Posted October 29, 2015 Author Report Posted October 29, 2015 Yes. The previous company I've been outsourced Accenture (which uses SAP) for the Finance systems. Anyways, I think I've heard enough information coming from you. Thanks again for taking your time to reply on this. Company will be up June 2016 and I'm hoping for the best. Good luck to your future plans too bro! See you around!
Rayray Posted October 29, 2015 Report Posted October 29, 2015 Goodluck as well on your endeavors. Who knows, in maybe about two years something new comes out. Don't limit yourself to only SAP or Oracle. :) Be creative, the industry needs it.
