Rayray Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 My suggestion is fairly simple. Add an item(to be put in Item mall) that is usable only for the Star Gladiator class. What it does is give the soul link buff once used by the Star Gladiator. I have one simple reason for this, Star Gladiators need the soul link buff to be effective, as they do not have a valkyrie weapon at the very least. They need to always buff themselves with soul link and use the skill Union to even pvp, and that skill has a lot of disadvantage already. Star Gladiators are the only class atm that always needs soul link buff, that is why this suggestion does not cover other classes like SB sinx because they can live without the buff. Also, Star glads still does not have the Hatred reset, which makes the class limited on fighting 3 classes(2 if they used the opposition to the emp as well for breaking)
jameslamela Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 sure why not? i want also to see star glads on field and on WoE. we can always nerf a class incase they will become OP. we can have an observation for it.
ChainBreak Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Maybe they should make a valk weapon that provides a proc chance on soullink with every attack? If it's high enough it would be equivalent to having that item and removes the need to carry around an extra item, taking up weight capacity(if they would decide to make it not have 0 weight). Or put the active soullink skill on the weapon, then they will be in a similar spot as sinx having to refresh their main buff every couple of minutes. On another note an active item to reset hatred would be a good buff to the class. Not sure though if having hatred on basically all classes without the need to visit a npc would be op though.
Rayray Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 Or actually just make union not need the soul link. Star Glads at the moment rely on that buff. You will not see any other star glad not using that buff. If they are, they are using thana and the elite book probably.
ChainBreak Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Since I know that the GMs dont want to modify skills atm I think the valk weapon or the usable item would seem the best solution. Maybe the item could be made reusable and put in the tokenshop such as to act as a replacement for a valk weapon.
Rayray Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Posted June 30, 2014 Since I know that the GMs dont want to modify skills atm I think the valk weapon or the usable item would seem the best solution. Maybe the item could be made reusable and put in the tokenshop such as to act as a replacement for a valk weapon. Then that would be unfair since it will not be allowed to be made into legendary weapons. The problem with having the weapon enable the soul link skill buff(which you cannot cast on yourself i believe) is that the star gladiators will use a weapon. Star Gladiators with no weapon and have the union buff deals more damage especially if you know how to spam sprint + FSK well. I still believe a usable item, be it infinite or finite, that gives soul link to be a better solution.
Igopewpew Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 The biggest problem right now is not that they have to get a link, it's not that you can't reset targets. It's the hard delay on the running skill after using flying side kick. This delay has made the class complete garbage unless you abuse a bug. I bought the vote cape yesterday and I regret choosing the star glad cape more than anything because I did not know they implemented a new hard delay in between those skills and it completely broke the class. The class already was only able to fight 3 classes in total but now it cant even beat those selected classes because there's a 2-3 second delay after flying side kick before you can use running again.
Royals™ Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 yea hard delays suck and don't be amazed by the glads who continuously fsk with high dmg they using bugs.. :V
Rayray Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Posted June 30, 2014 The biggest problem right now is not that they have to get a link, it's not that you can't reset targets. It's the hard delay on the running skill after using flying side kick. This delay has made the class complete garbage unless you abuse a bug. I bought the vote cape yesterday and I regret choosing the star glad cape more than anything because I did not know they implemented a new hard delay in between those skills and it completely broke the class. The class already was only able to fight 3 classes in total but now it cant even beat those selected classes because there's a 2-3 second delay after flying side kick before you can use running again. Tried this, even trying to walk away after the sprint + fsk really did not help. How about spamming FSK Alone? I know the damage will be much lower though.
ChainBreak Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Ok based on the idea of a one time use item for the soullink I would suggest making a dungeon either like berry (questable) or seed (cost based) that allows for farming that item. It would give newbees a new opportunity to gain money and if this idea and the other ideas for SG buffs get accepted we should get enough SG to have the demand for the item. Another question would be what level of soullink should be given by the item. Max lvl wont be good imo if it's put in a farmable situation (unless you make the number of mobs or dropchance low) since 350 seconds are pretty long and lead to lower demand.
Igopewpew Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Tried this, even trying to walk away after the sprint + fsk really did not help. How about spamming FSK Alone? I know the damage will be much lower though. FSK spamming alone works, that's why the current hard delay kind of encourages the bug-abuse instead of the manual playing of the class :(.
Zombee Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Same goes for Holy Priests, and they seem to have no problem dual clienting.
Rayray Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Posted July 12, 2014 FSK spamming alone works, that's why the current hard delay kind of encourages the bug-abuse instead of the manual playing of the class :(. That sucks. We need to really get the hard delay fixed first Same goes for Holy Priests, and they seem to have no problem dual clienting. Because they are less prone to dispel from valk rand, they have no problem with it. Star glads are a melee class, therefore valk rand card is their main enemy, and it procs with melee reflect. I had a few fights where i run+fsk one time and got dispelled.
Shino Posted July 13, 2014 Report Posted July 13, 2014 wew. Please, if you are not gonna contribute to the discussion in the thread, don't post at all. Do not spam senseless posts.
Zombee Posted July 13, 2014 Report Posted July 13, 2014 That sucks. We need to really get the hard delay fixed first Because they are less prone to dispel from valk rand, they have no problem with it. Star glads are a melee class, therefore valk rand card is their main enemy, and it procs with melee reflect. I had a few fights where i run+fsk one time and got dispelled. That sucks. We need to really get the hard delay fixed first Because they are less prone to dispel from valk rand, they have no problem with it. Star glads are a melee class, therefore valk rand card is their main enemy, and it procs with melee reflect. I had a few fights where i run+fsk one time and got dispelled. Yeah, but holy priests can also be countered via gtb and angelring. If they attempt to strip, the same method used to dispel you can be used against them.
Rayray Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah, but holy priests can also be countered via gtb and angelring. If they attempt to strip, the same method used to dispel you can be used against them. They can also stave while that is happening, so they have a means to try and damage, while the star gladiator does not have any other means but to attack in melee and risk getting dispelled and become useless.
bataclanmarriel Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 Interesting ;) iwanna try star glad class but this class is kinda complicated ... so +1 for this ;)
