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It's fun winning on a semi complete team anyway. Honestly, I never had this much trouble in the Pokemon TCG tournaments(which I won a fair few fights). But then, people in the TCG community weren't as strict as people who follow Smogon. I mean in the Pokemon TCG, the only banned cards I knew were promotional ones(cards you win in tournaments) while Smogon is banning anything that can sweep teams that are stupid. If they ban Talonflame due to its priority ability, all hell breaks lose.

So in my projected team if and only if I get a gengar in time: Lucario, Blaziken, Talonflame, Aegislash, Gardevoir and Gengar. Goodluck to me when will I get that Gengar.

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@Specter;

Bass,

SEE?? I TOLD YOU I AM NOT ON CRACK! xD

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Cheers,

Laura :th_wink:

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@Specter;

Bass,

SEE?? I TOLD YOU I AM ON CRACK! xD

Cheers,

Laura :th_wink:

I know!!! ;D

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I know!!! ;D

Still cool tho! I learned something new. xD

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DANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!! I miss your randomness!!! :((

Where have you been, 'mate??? Got hospitalized yesterday...lol. BUT! I'm very much alive and well!

How are you??? :D

LOL. i miss you too laura xD

ow. why got hospitalize?? anyways, that's good to know that your all better now mate haha

me? i'm all fine and kicking. just been busy lately.. making myself rich hahaha xD

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Yes, I too have come to the conclusion where it depends on what your enemy's team looks like and what tricks he/she has up their sleeve.

Well Good Luck to your team building and battles then :)

Ok I did read a few more and some people advice me to get a decent core team for Lucario/Blaziken and not use them both at the same time since they fulfill similar roles anyway, that way I can either use mega lucario or mega blaziken in separate teams.

Can you check if this is decent: Lucario, Gyrados, Garchomp as core which covers the weaknesses of Lucario, Talonflame for revenge killing or basically killing other sweepers(or to cover gyrados as well), Starmie as a Spinner to remove those annoying stealth rock people(and having BoltBeam is great as well) and Gengar/Aegislash to combat other rapid spinners. Replacing Lucario is Blaziken when I not needing a steel type and needing a Fire type(since mega venusaur is a beast)

PS: Talonflame can be replaced by Blaziken if I will not be needing the +2 Priority (slower teams)

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Yeah I can't believe I missed that >.> Just switch out Blaziken/Lucario depending on battles. I've never been a huge fan of gyrados, mostly because of 4x electric and an annoying stealth rock weakness.

Having Ice coverage is good especially because you'll need to predict when your opponent will try to counter your Garchomp (assuming he/she has a dragon type on their team, and excluding worrying about ice because of your Lucario(Fighting)/Blaziken(Fire) setup. Talonflame is a keeper. Starmie as a spinner and Bolt/Beam coverage is very useful to your team in particular, speed and sptk come to my mind, for full utility or dmg. Also Mega Venusaur is a beaaast xD

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Actually it goes like this. Lucario will lead either with his mega stone or focus sash. Gyrados is there to cover lucario's weakness, and garchomp is there to cover for gyrados. then lucario covers for garchomp. basically, those three counter each others' counters. If I can get garchomp to use stealth rock this would be better, but not necessary imo. In all honesty, Lucario will probably kill off anything using close combat or extremespeed as long as it does not resist it. and i don't really care if gyrados dies because for sure whoever killed it will die on lucario or garchomp by the next turn. Or I probably should find a better water type. any suggestions or starmie would suffice? If starmie suffice, should I get dragonite instead?

Nature of those three is probably jolly or adamant, although I barely care for it as much. It does help having the right nature, but it isn't gamebreaking in my experience.

Lastly, what is a good moveset for gengar?

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I'd keep Starmie because of bolt/beam and spinning. A pokemon with better stats and a similar coverage will obviously be better. Hmm You could switch Gyrados with Dragonite and have him learn aqua tail. If things go bad near the end for your Lucario or Garchomp you could try to set up an Outrage Sweep.

"Better" Water Types is sort of broad, but in Gyrados' situation I see a Flying/Water: Icebeam Surf Aqua Ring/Dragon Dance Earthquake moveset or something along the lines of that. Maybe Blastoise/Lapras/Milotic/Kingdra could take it's place.

Natures I at least try to have 1 stat (which I need) that it's beneficial too. Of course this has caused me to have so many eggs and is very time consuming. Before I started to EV train I would just try to level to 100 as fast as I could. Then it occured to me that some of my natures were just downright unhelpful sometimes hindering. So I'd have to re-level the same team from scratch just for a peace of mind (x

Gengar Moveset: First move that comes to my mind is ShadowBall then somewhere along the lines of Suckerpunch/Payback Meanlook w/ Destiny Bond (Tricky to use) Confuse Ray/Hypnosis.

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I'd keep Starmie because of bolt/beam and spinning. A pokemon with better stats and a similar coverage will obviously be better. Hmm You could switch Gyrados with Dragonite and have him learn aqua tail. If things go bad near the end for your Lucario or Garchomp you could try to set up an Outrage Sweep.

"Better" Water Types is sort of broad, but in Gyrados' situation I see a Flying/Water: Icebeam Surf Aqua Ring/Dragon Dance Earthquake moveset or something along the lines of that. Maybe Blastoise/Lapras/Milotic/Kingdra could take it's place.

Natures I at least try to have 1 stat (which I need) that it's beneficial too. Of course this has caused me to have so many eggs and is very time consuming. Before I started to EV train I would just try to level to 100 as fast as I could. Then it occured to me that some of my natures were just downright unhelpful sometimes hindering. So I'd have to re-level the same team from scratch just for a peace of mind (x

Gengar Moveset: First move that comes to my mind is ShadowBall then somewhere along the lines of Suckerpunch/Payback Meanlook w/ Destiny Bond (Tricky to use) Confuse Ray/Hypnosis.

Yeah but in my case, the natures aren't so bad. Like I want an attack nature but I got a speed nature instead. Not bad I guess. I would have been pissed if I want attack and got special defense.

I'll try lapras cuz it has perish song :D

I am not sure where to get Dratini in pokemon y yet so Dragonite needs to hold on for a bit.

ShadowBall for gengar is sure, meanlook as well. ill check sucker punch and I'd rather use hypnosis than confuse ray. Destiny bond is sort of nice, in case gengar cannot kill much and I am sure the big 3 (Lucario, Garchomp, Talonflame) would be able to take care of the rest. Also, I forgot to add, if it comes to using Gengar, I can mega evolve him(and mega gengar is pretty OP) and just use Life Orb/Focus sash/Choice Band on Lucario since he does not really need to mega evolve to be OP. Mega Gengar is OP as hell, but not as OP as mega kanghaskan.

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Yeah that is how I feel too. Like having a Snorlax with a +Speed -SpDef >.> like what's the point? Life Orb is good if your warming up but Choice band is better since you have many coverage in your team it's okay if your stuck too one move.

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Where is it? lol

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY THAT SONG IS STUCK IN MAH HEAD!!! xD

any online inviter? can i join? :)

Welcome, Jose!! :D

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Yeah that is how I feel too. Like having a Snorlax with a +Speed -SpDef >.> like what's the point? Life Orb is good if your warming up but Choice band is better since you have many coverage in your team it's okay if your stuck too one move.

Choice Band will be on Garchomp since I can literally make him stuck on outrage if needed.

I normally get the speed natures for some reason, then I just compute and reduce the EVs on speed a little since all I need is to get enough speed.

Lastly, I just checked and Mega Gengar's ability is Shadow Tag, which makes it more OP. Probably be using Taunt/Disable, Focus Blast, Sludge Wave and Destiny Bond on it.

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Okay thank you though^^

sorry late reply i did not notice that you've reply, haha can i still join?

Hey guys, sure! Hoping to see each other online!

Cheers,

Laura :th_wow:

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sorry late reply i did not notice that you've reply, haha can i still join?

im online right now but im using my wiz to farm chivs :D so i can buy MVP cards :D

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I'm kinda active now xD so pm pLok xD or pLok.PH :) you might catch me online xD my time zone is gmt+ 0, which is a huge pain in the ass xD coz ma wont adopt me that's why i cant move to the states.. haha fuk Lebron.. lol

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im online right now but im using my wiz to farm chivs :D so i can buy MVP cards :D

I'm kinda active now xD so pm pLok xD or pLok.PH :) you might catch me online xD my time zone is gmt+ 0, which is a huge pain in the ass xD coz ma wont adopt me that's why i cant move to the states.. haha fuk Lebron.. lol

laaaa~ if i can adopt you i will! why don't you have your 'rents adopt me too! i wanna chill in london too ya know! xD

newkid, i'm at work atm, but will be logging in during my break time. :))

cheers,

Laura

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laaaa~ if i can adopt you i will! why don't you have your 'rents adopt me too! i wanna chill in london too ya know! xD

newkid, i'm at work atm, but will be logging in during my break time. :))

cheers,

Laura

haha ok i'll wait for you :P

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