jackietabs Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Snper Sb have divst.How about adding some effect on Stalker Sb or Stalk Blessed ring like random status like coma/silent or curse. Stalker cant kill in pvp unless the enemy give up using seeds if they been stripped. And i think thats a good idea because no one using marduk and Snake lord card here so there will be a switching.
Desamor Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Sniper, since they got the Elite crossbow, they can use divest, so that's why SB have it. Silent or Curse, can be avoided with VIT over 99. Also, Stalker can kill people, but most people rather go full reductions and only auto attack them... Stalker can do a good outpost damage with copied skill, so I don't see why it need to be buffed more when they got already enough buff.
jackietabs Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Posted June 26, 2013 tell me what skill good for stalker? that can kill a champ with fcp i think adding coma on stalker blessed ring or sb is not a big deal. atleast stalker can stand by their own.
Desamor Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Use Lord of the Dead card. Use Edge sword. Also if you want to 1 hit KO champions, go another class. And of course it is a big deal, because of this: Coma = Force user to go GTB shield, and this mean will have less reduction causing an increase of enemy damage. And stalker stand already on their own, FCP? Wait 10 minutes. Phenuma? Get triple attack or go Bowling Bash build. [EDIT] Of course, You want coma on the equipement so you can coma people without killing your damage outpost. This will unbalance classes. Edited June 26, 2013 by Desamor
Rayray Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 I deal 14k each hit on DS with my stalker on legendary bow without using Thana and I don't have a Stalker ring like you do. Stop going auto attack with raging trifecta, that only works if you can strip people. Stalker is a solid class to use if you can use it well, the weapons and rings are fine. Adding coma to a physical class is going overboard, and you can use LOD card for that. I don't even use an offensive copied skill since my stalker do not need it. Learn your class please. Stalker do not need any help, Champs can't even unhide you unless they use magnum break(marine sphere card). You have backslide, stalk, able to copy skills, long range due to bows, strip, snatch deals decent damage in pvp room, Decent HP.
Autopsies Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Stalker is fine imo. Maybe if you tried something besides Ring of Resonance and auto attack you could kill something. o.o Edited June 26, 2013 by Autopsies
jackietabs Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Posted June 27, 2013 so tell me why did they put divest on Sniper Sb ,when we all knw that Sniper are on the top 3 killer in Ragnarok. Even though most of the sniper are skill type? its the same logic on what i suggested.desamor told me that stalker dont need additional effect like coma when they can copy skill,,so there wil be no inbalance because they cant coma enemy if thet copy matyrs or any skills that are not passive. and you ray ray u suggested that your stalker can do damage of 14k per hit of ds,and you mentioned that u can used LOD if u want to coma(your right). Then sniper can use metalling card if they want to divest there enemy, so theres no need for the admin of FRO adding divest on Sniper SB.
masterneil Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 Sniper cant strip.. Stalker can so what is divest in wep lol.. Or ring Copy matyr, use coma bow they will be forced to go gtb and while they use gtb, go matyr , i did aroud 20-30k ea to gtb ppls..
Rayray Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 The difference between the two effects (coma and sniper divest) is huge. Sniper Divest works ONLY in melee range, only works in auto attacks or melee reflect(In case you didn't know) and can be countered by FCP. In fact, No class should have trouble against a sniper divest unless they are a melee class or don't have fcp. Coma on the other hand works with range attacks. It also forces enemies to use GTB and against a physical class, that is suicidal. In short, adding a coma on the bow when the stalker can already deal 6-7k auto attacks(not counting raging trifecta just yet) against people on friggs is not good. Skill type or not, it is not that hard to switch to auto attacks when needed. Sure you can copy matyr and other stuff, but that doesn't mean you can't auto attack and coma. Snipers on the other hand is easy to counter when they are trying to strip, just don't go melee range on them and the auto divest won't work. Coma can work at long range, that is the huge difference between them. You wanted an effect on the Stalker SB to force people to use GTB shield or they die from coma without you losing damage cards. This won't be a problem if Stalkers do not deal high damage already, but they do. TL;DR Strip is countered by FCP easily, or just don't go near the sniper just those two methods makes the Strip on the sniper sb useless. Coma's only counter is GTB shield, which is suicidal against a physical class like bow stalker. Therefore your suggestion to put it in the stalker sb will be too strong.