zergling Posted May 25, 2013 Report Posted May 25, 2013 Stalkers have Full Strip, can copy pretty much ANY skill and use it, and can deal heavy ranged damage with the bows, why in the hell is that the class that can get 90%+ demi resist? This is getting to be retarted with stalkers using this mad resist and still able to deal decent damage. This amount of resist makes them damn near impossible to kill without getting 3+ people to attack them. Remove the bullshit resist from their bow none of the other classes get this resist. How is it fair that stalkers get to use the resist+copycat+chasewalk?
kanoski Posted May 25, 2013 Report Posted May 25, 2013 why u so mad i used my stalk here but i dont see any prob..as far as i know many players of fro underestimate the stalkers bcoz they are weak..but its not a problem....weak or not i depnds on the player.in resist..as we can see the stalk dont have any buff on his self.so resis will be his def..all caharcters have weakness...find those weakness and u will e happy someday
supream Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 It all started a long time ago when people complained about stalkers not having enough hp, gtb and fcp making them useless, no ranged damaged ect, but all that changed when they got that bow. Now all they do is hide, backslide, and put on resist and run away and bug you. They don't need the resist anymore since they got a big hp, and damage buff. 1
Victoria Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Unfortunately, stalkers i have dealt with are using full reducs (skull aura, laughing poopoo, Sacred Wings) thats why sometimes my damage is very low when it comes to stalkers, unfortunately they cant deal that much damage either with full reducs. i agree about reducing the reduce damage from demihumans % though since we have all sorts of reducs nowadays that they can use if they want to :3 why u so mad i used my stalk here but i dont see any prob..as far as i know many players of fro underestimate the stalkers bcoz they are weak..but its not a problem....weak or not i depnds on the player.in resist..as we can see the stalk dont have any buff on his self.so resis will be his def..all caharcters have weakness...find those weakness and u will e happy someday Unfortunately, Stalkers have self-buffs like Counter Instinct which reduces swords and dagger damage by half and the other half will be reflected to the opponent itself.. here read this: http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=skill_db&jid=4018
-Si- Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Stalkers dont seem op or resistant to me. Just have to know how to counter them. All class have weakness, find it.
Rayray Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) They have no resist in the bow anymore(unless you count the elite stalker bow that has 5%). The retarded thing that happens is that laughing poopoo stacks with sacred/fluffy and friggs while the other demi human reducts headgear do not, along with the reducts from skull aura/myth. Collectively, that brings it to around 80-90% reducts. Just make laughing poopoo hat not stack with friggs,kingshield,votekingshield or knightshield and they can get the maximum reducts normal players can. Stalkers really do not need the reducts IMO. Damage, escape mechanism, ability to copy trans skills that are not weapon dependent, decent HP, and decent damage. If I go try this out, I can use laughing poopoo, eidelic wing, skull aura and friggs and my reducts would still be high enough, combine it with the stalker SB with thana card, I could pretty much deal huge damage and tank about 2-4 players without me spamming seeds. I think that says it all. Edited May 26, 2013 by ZerO25
Victoria Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Stalkers i think has originally high reducs even without reducs gears. and yes, i do agree that laughing poo poo hat should not be able to stack with f.king/friggs/SGW etc. because that would be insane :3
zergling Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Posted May 26, 2013 So I think we're in agreement that to make stalkers have the normal resist of the other players remove the stacked reducts from the laughing poopoo?
carlooreste Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 I dont see any problem with stalkers, i think they have low hp, around 200-250k with dex type. But if they go full redux, laughing poo poo hat, sacreds/ring, skull aura, weapon and shield, they will do lower damage and lower hp. When they go full redux, they usually just normal attack because they cannot spam skills, if they use ring+skull+poopoo hat, they will have only 2 slots available, and probably they will just use fsoldier+mayap instead of using 2 kiels. If they go sacred, then there will be just one slot available in headgear. Their normal damage is average, you wont die if you spam yggs, moreover, you can use pneuma or (the pneuma card since we have slotted accessories) Also, if they go full redux, probably they will freeze. So freeze them. If they go unfrozen armor, sure they will have much lower hp, because they will use gr+detale or gr+marc. Stalkers with full redux just piss off people, to waste their yggs. So -1 for this.
El7 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Stalkers are not .......... OP and their full reduct......... i don't feel it.
Victoria Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) tried my bolts/AV to other jobs 3k-?k, tried it on stalkers, 900-1.4k :3 Edited May 27, 2013 by Victoria
gagosila123 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Dude, even they have that big redux, their hp still not high to deal with, you just need some freezing attacks to them or puppetring, lol! Know your counter strategy before suggesting some things.... :)
Rayray Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Dude, even they have that big redux, their hp still not high to deal with, you just need some freezing attacks to them or puppetring, lol! Know your counter strategy before suggesting some things.... :) My stalker that used full reducts can survive asura when frozen/stoned. What do you mean know your counters? that is basically the counter to them and yet they survive. My stalker has higher HP than my biochemist too(using sacreds at the moment, if i use eidelic then we have a bigger problem on hp). I use laughing poopoohat, skull aura, and sacred wing. I have two card slots free, which can basically be having 2 kiels, or mayap and fsoldier. If I use my eidelic wing, I can go 2 kiels and fsoldier. Which is funny since I can survive asura with being frozen(meaning my GR is nulled), I can just ditch the fsoldier and use evil druid+tao gunka as a default armor and have 3 kiels. That basically makes me immune to freeze, immune to stone and can spam like hell and be able to survive asura with just using dual raydrics. That basically defeats the only counter you can do to reducts stalker. I also have a thana card so my damage is nothing to laugh at. This shows that if the player using the stalker is rich enough to gain items that would make it way more OP, it will be. I don't have a ring for stalker, but others do. Which makes my setup above a little weaker compared to the ones that had the ring. The problem is the laughing poopoohat stacking with friggs. If we remove that, then it will be fine.
Veracity Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 Actually stalkers shouldn't be able to wear any headgear with redux that stacks with friggs/forsaken shield, etc. We already made it so most of the headgears don't, but we may have missed some. If anyone else thinks of any other reduction headgears that may be problematic, feel free to PM me. We'll fix this next update.
