jameslamela Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Token to Zenny / Zenny to Token NPC location: inside trader room currency convertion: 100m zenny = 3 token or vice versa (base on 1hr seed room pass) max limit convertion: 30 token and 1b zenny within 24hrs... reasons: the reason i suggested this because theres alot of npc takes token away from players such as kings room and seed/Speed room. this system reduce the no. of token which is currently circulating on fro economy. the lost of token means the worsen of the economy. as the population of fro rises more and more tokens are needed to be circulated. and not all donators donate for tokens. most of them donate for gears. as a result "surplus of items" and having hardtime selling it. and non-donate/farming people cant buy them coz theres no enough tokens for everyone. as a overall conclusion; the market is no longer marketing... benefits for donators: no more surplus items!!! any donate items are sailable. no more low ballers for your stuffs. you can always get what you paid for. instant zenny for you to make BC, buy quest items at mall etc... fro market will be more convinient for you guys... benefits for non-donate peps: you will be no longer become farming slaves of low baller employers. mvp cards,drops,quest and donate items will be more affordable at a right price "no need to ask for discounts". no more fellow non-donate/one-time donator that gonna buy your quest items at cheap price... your efforts will be paid off.. no more OP and Cheap items... all will be affordable at a right and reasonable price!!! this is my point of view on how to resolve the worsening economy of fro. ill be open for questions,suggestion,violent reactions, etc. regarding to my post... thanks for reading... ^_^ Edited April 27, 2013 by jameslamela 2
91Dazz_ Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 +1 It's a good idea for zeny sink too. Encourages people to farm more. When people can farm more and have more money, they will spend it no doubt. Items will get less and less, also resulting players into donating. So no harm on administration side. Win Win situation.
jameslamela Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Posted April 27, 2013 +1 It's a good idea for zeny sink too. Encourages people to farm more. When people can farm more and have more money, they will spend it no doubt. Items will get less and less, also resulting players into donating. So no harm on administration side. Win Win situation. thanks for positive feedbacks...! XD
-Si- Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 +1 I believe this is what we need. I like it.
Lenneth Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 Token to zeny is fine, i'm not so sure about zeny to token as zeny is farmable, thus token supply can easily go out of control, steep token depreciation may occur. If it is to be implemented then GMs will have to patrol for bots more frequently. Zeny bots are going to be rampant. As for tokens in the market, i think there are actually a decent number of donators contributing to the pool. So i'm under the impression that the token sink is actually enlarging rather than shrinking.
jameslamela Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Posted April 27, 2013 Token to zeny is fine, i'm not so sure about zeny to token as zeny is farmable, thus token supply can easily go out of control, steep token depreciation may occur. If it is to be implemented then GMs will have to patrol for bots more frequently. Zeny bots are going to be rampant. As for tokens in the market, i think there are actually a decent number of donators contributing to the pool. So i'm under the impression that the token sink is actually enlarging rather than shrinking. thanks for sharing us your insights... as we see every good suggestion might be a subject for abuse. and regarding bots, even without this said npc.. if people wanna abuse the game they would. they can bot on chivs,seeds,berries,speeds,etc... and the most controversial item for botting way back a month ago are "rat tails"... and many people already get jailed/banned coz of doing so. bot are already rampant if they where coz the majority doesn't know how to bot. so its still serves the intention of the majority. if its only gonna token to zenny npc, well... nvm coz its helping the token to shrink even more. lastly if im gonna donate, i will donate for items like capes and artifacts etc... since it more cheaper to donate them in real money than buying them in tokens.. thats why most donators does this to profit more tokens rather than donating for tokens, but in the end.. they end up waiting for a decent buyer for a long period of time. and some of them even sell their stuffs desperately at a lower cost and not resulting to profit coz only few can afford them. i believe adding more tokens in the market will help the fro's economy to ease a bit..
-Si- Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 i believe adding more tokens in the market will help the fro's economy to ease a bit.. Nope it wont ease up, it will just make things go as usual. More tokens = High Prices. No matter how hard we try, tokens is limited inside the server. As for Zeny to Tokens NPC will not limit it.
leiurus Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 How about limit the tokens you can convert in a day per account. Pretty much like activity tokens. You can only get 24 max in 1 account per day.
jameslamela Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) How about limit the tokens you can convert in a day per account. Pretty much like activity tokens. You can only get 24 max in 1 account per day. good idea... +1 on this. XD maybe i should add it on my suggestion... a max convertion of not only 24 but 30 token and 1b zenny per day each player. Edited April 27, 2013 by jameslamela
nellysky Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 lots of pipol selling token and vending token on ther merchies. this idea will will not ruin the economy since it already done by players on this server. regarding to bots GM's are having both hunting each map.. +1 to this..
Victoria Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 well even if we dont implement this, those bots will still farm zeny and just buy tokens from other people instead of an NPC. So whether or not this will be implemented, all of it will stay the SAME.
Veracity Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 We will look into ways to make tokens more obtainable for everyone; however, this is not the best solution. There is a lot of potential for abuse with this and it would have negative repercussions on the server as a whole.
jameslamela Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Posted April 27, 2013 Nope it wont ease up, it will just make things go as usual. More tokens = High Prices. No matter how hard we try, tokens is limited inside the server. As for Zeny to Tokens NPC will not limit it. thats my point... tokens are limited and it cant support the growing population of fro since more and more people joins therefore theres a need of new tokens.. the sad part is, only few donators donate for token. as a result. these new guys become more desperate on earning it.. selling their quest items for cheap. become farm slaves of not really rich people. just to earn a little penny for a living... and yeah for donators too. sometimes they need token urgently and ended up selling their donate item at the price they dont want to. if many people can afford their stuffs.. they can sell it on much better price. and will not be force for another donation for additional token. coz the term "donation" is voluntary... and anywhere you go, everything will matter on supply and demand basis... if this suggestion of mine will be implemented, stuffs will be affordable "not necessary cheap" and sailable at a right price "not necessarily OP".... thanks for your critics... ^_^
Veracity Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 We will look into ways to make tokens more obtainable for everyone; however, this is not the best solution. There is a lot of potential for abuse with this and it would have negative repercussions on the server as a whole.