Pvp Buff

[-Jano-]

Who gave the great idea of disappear the buff when we go on pvp that is a crap i think no partyes is cool but that shit of buff is so stupid comback to the normal the buff...

[Junnichi]

lol, actually i dont think the buff itself makes a big difference in PvP though...if you gear and build are crappy then no buff will save you, and its supposed to be this way, if you have a buff, then your enemy will also have it, so whats the difference?

[Veracity]

PvP should be about skill, not relying on buffs. It's really lame and gives a disadvantage to people who aren't able to open multiple clients and get all of the buffs. If you need buffs to PvP, then you must not be very good at PvPing.

[-Jano-]

this idea just make that the ppl call for friend be gangers inside of pvp and classes like scholar have to use double bolt that take like 3-5sec on be done and that is enought time to a group of ganger kill u easyly

[Junnichi]

well, a gank will kill any player =P

though all of this depends on a lot of factors, BUT no buff will help you from that

[-Jano-]

is easy say u are not good PvPing when u are fighting v/s 5-6 characters trying cast ur skills............

[Mint]

Is there a way to make it so that you can enter pvp, buffs are removed, and you are immune to attacks and unable to attack for like 5 seconds, allowing you time to self-buff? Also the fact that decrease agi is majorly spammable and it removes cart boost is crazy, but thats not for here :/

[-Jano-]

when u spawn on pvp u have like 3 sec when the ppl cant atack u but if u try cast any skill on that moment they can atack u of anyway is the same isa crap....

[Cherry Kiss]

PvP should be about skill, not relying on buffs. It's really lame and gives a disadvantage to people who aren't able to open multiple clients and get all of the buffs. If you need buffs to PvP, then you must not be very good at PvPing.

+1 ... but fcp disappear also thats the bad point

[thePast]

when u spawn on pvp u have like 3 sec when the ppl cant atack u but if u try cast any skill on that moment they can atack u of anyway is the same isa crap....

Simple, ask help from your friends too..

or

use speed pots, run to the corner, get magic coat, safety wall, blinding mist then buff, it should give you enough time. :x

Edited February 3, 2013 by thePast

[Rayray]

Well a gang can kill almost everyone anyway, even with buffs.

But making pvp room debuff everyone makes it so that no one goes in with 2 of the worst tactics I've seen people like you utilize

1. Full bolter prof + MB= bolt everyone in sight and get easy kills. if they go gtb, cloak/run and log out.

2. Sniper goes in with 2x attack buff, FAS everyone, once 2x runs out, log out.

With those things removed, it is an even playing field for people that don't buff at all.

People will reason out that "you can use buffs too anyway". well, not all class can benefit from those can they? A biochemist like me can't take advantage of 2x attack, and MB does less effect on us than it does on prof.

Complaining about it, instead of finding ways around it, is not gonna help. If they gang, find a gang. It's not new and at least they cant devo now.

[Drunk]

I understand the buff part. But, why take away FCP now Stalkers are the 1# class for PvP Q_Q

[Rayray]

^ stalkers can't really do anything against someone with fcp, and they can't take on full dex characters since their strip won't work as easily as it would on non dex characters. Stalkers are not the number 1 class in pvp, if they are, I would have fought tons of stalkers by now when I ladder.

Stalkers only look the best in pvp right now because 80% of the pvpers are either sinx, champ or LK. and stalkers got an advantage against those characters. Once we get tons of players in that pvp room where there is diversity in the classes, it should look pretty balanced then. There are few pvpers inside that room now, so it looks like stalkers are the best.

The removal of buffs including FCP makes it so that not one class can kill every class and not one player have a distinct advantage over the other.

Edited February 3, 2013 by ZerO25

[-Jano-]

i think disappear the buff when u log on pvp is just a bad idea. cuz foster the gang and make it mroe hard for some classes and it say PVP people v/s people that idea just make it Team v/s Team and that is not the principal idea... u disable the party to make it more funn but if thre are justs teams gangin you no one will go inside.... and the ppl will continue wining it with 120kills.......

[thePast]

^yes, cause going in w/ provoke , mb , 2x Atk, 2xHp, fcp, WS buff, link is much better .___.;

if you don't get it, it's a sarcasm >_>

Edited February 3, 2013 by thePast

[Rayray]

Hm, haven't really had much problems to gangs now because there is no devo. When I laddered, I was able to bring down ,at the very least, 2 people that were ganging me.

And the principle Idea of pvp is not also player vs player with all the buffs available.

And I prefer people winning at around 120 kills than people getting 500+ kills while going full buffs and logging out after the buff runs out.

[-Jano-]

u cant just think on, if u can or no u have to think for everyone not just for you, if u can fighting v/s a gang good for you but not everyone can do the same

[Rayray]

If I can do it, why can't you? I am generally not as good as some people. Just learn to pick your battles.

They no longer have devotion in their arsenal. That's a huge thing.

If we enable buffs, what about those that does not fight in gangs and really pvp alone? wouldn't they have a huge disadvantage then.

You should also think of the others as well. If you need buffs to be pvp, too bad for you, but some of us like the way that there is no distinct advantage due to buffs.