slacterinc Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Im suggesting if GM will open MVP room in this server....This is bcause,with the a lot incoming new player....the card MVP is not sufficient for the player in this sever. In result making ppl over price(OP) the card or items...If open the MVP room suggest it mcp card drops to 5% though... 1 Quote
thePast Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 If we had Mvp rooms, the price will drop like really really drop, it may only cost a token each card. Unless the drop percentage was like 1% or less, then it might work o.o Quote
Veracity Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I'm thinking if we did this, it would have to a) drop at 1% or so b) cost zeny to summon c) have a cool down on how often you can summon. Unless there were these 3 restrictions, I don't think it would really work here. What does everyone think about this? 1 Quote
Mint Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Maybe if you made the mvp's harder & reduced the drop rate, so people would be less-keen to camp the mvp rooms Quote
kuoch Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 PvP inside MvP arena would be fun. Ksing everyone! IDGAF! Quote
SinRisk Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 With a drop rate reduction and time restriction i think this would work, and there could be a limit like an account could get on once every 2 days or something. It's a good way to gear up since most people camp the hell out of most mvp dungeons. Quote
Cherry Kiss Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 still bad for the newbies a strong champ ks them all Quote
ValariusXT Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) What kind of concept is your MVP room? Is that the room that has already bosses in it or you will need bloody branches and use the room to yourself??Or am I not getting this right? Edited January 4, 2013 by ValariusXT Quote
Cherry Kiss Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 that u can summon mvps for zeny or there are already mvps Quote
Rayray Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 to be honest, i still dont like the idea of an mvp room. geared players can already hunt mvps efficiently, give them another way and they will still rule over the economy. I myself like mvp hunting, i can just hunt an mvp like kiel, after killing it in the real map, i can summon one again if we had mvp room. but if we ever have to do it, lowered drop rate+ zeny to summon+ limit to summon on each account altogether should work though. mvp drop rates are at 10% normally so something along the lines of 5% and below would be ok. Quote
Martin Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) +1 to this idea. Except I have a few more suggestions on this: 1. The zeny needed to summon the MVPs has to be fairly high so that there aren't a mass amount of summons. 2. The more valuable the MVP (it's obvious which ones' card costs more), the higher the zeny required. 3. I agree with SinRisk. A limit would be great. 4. The anti-ks system that's in thana_boss 5. While on the topic, the zeny required to summon Thanatos should be 1,000,000,001. Edited January 5, 2013 by Martin Quote
thePast Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 5. While on the topic, the zeny required to summon Thanatos should be 1,000,000,001. No Thana ._.;; Quote
slacterinc Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Posted January 5, 2013 I think it better with the restriction of these sure be fine... Quote
massacre09 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 Totally disagree, Like the others said it will render MVP-ing useless plus if you put restrictions like zeny toll for it, New players like won't even going to benefit from it. :/ Quote
Lenneth Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I feel with the topic starter with regards to the shortage of supply in mvp cards. I've joined the server for only a month and i have seen price of cards like kiel and tgk hiked over 200% in just one month and is still climbing. A variety of sources of supply may probably ease the situation. What about making bloody branch more accessible? I know it is currently available through event token shop. We can probably make it available through other channels such as zeny and tokens? I'm under the impression that the token shop ingame isn't frequently used as you can get everything cheaper from players. Currently server only has one mechanism to consume tokens which is through rental pass. Not sure if this is sufficient to balance off the influx of tokens into the market. We can also probably have bloody branch as rewards for raids/instances? Maybe endless tower? Or make the mvps drop at a rate? Currently there are some Mvps that are worthless to hunt, so maybe we can have them drop bloody branch? or some other mobs to drop at a low rate? Just my two cents. I'm still new in server so I may be wrong. Don't shoot me if i am=/ Edited January 9, 2013 by Lenneth Quote
ValariusXT Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 The MVP room concept is a complicated one. But for sure for newbies like myself will have a benifit, because of guild camping on most bosses specially TG, Kiel, FBH, etc..MVP hunting is really difficult. Neither the boss will kill you or the other players, +1 to the idea Quote
Rayray Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Tg is mostly the only one getting camped on, since he spawns always at the same spot. And I swear, putting mvp rooms without restriction, anyone geared can abuse it to no end. I already kill mvps in less than 2 mins on Biochemist, if we have an mvp room with no restriction will make it easier for me to gain cards. Also, this happened before, where the mvp cards cost a lot, it happened when I was a newbie. Did having mvp cards cost so much made my life harder? the answer is no. It actually helped me a lot. It helped me in the way that just one kiel card costs so much i can already start buying Forsaken king set parts. before I actually saw kiel card being sold at 100, even fbh card being sold at 100 at some point. If we have so many ways to get mvp cards(like mvp room) i wouldnt even buy a card for 10 tokens. MVP cards change prices fast, forsaken king set parts, valk weapons, and other gears changes prices slowly. Take advantage of that. Newbies dont have tokens to start with anyway, as a newbie you should be saving tokens for king parts, emp auras, legendary weapons, valk weapons and that sort of things, buying mvp cards should be the last on your priorities. you can mvp hunt using NO mvp card whatsoever. Higher MVP cards cost== newbies being able to sell mvp cards at a better price== newbies can gear up faster.. that's how I see it in my newbie days and it totally worked. Edited January 9, 2013 by ZerO25 Quote
Shadi Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with this suggestion due to the following reasons: 1: MvP cards right now are a source of income for newer players, not an expense. They should not be buying cards, they should be hunting them, using them or making profit out of them. There's other things they should be spending tokens on. Adding an MvP arena removes one of the only ways of decent income. 2: You can put as much restrictions on it was you want, but people will always be able to bypass them and abuse the system. Multiple accounts, perhaps even multiple IPs etc. 3: Adding restrictions such as zeny cost brings newer players to an disadvantage instead of an advantage. Not to mention that MvP card price will drop , zeny cost to summon will stay the same. 4: All regular maps that are currently used to hunt MvPs on will die. Everyone will use the MvP room instead , no need to warp around, not getting PK'D. No fear of being KS'D. I don't see the use of a PK server if none of the popular maps (other than for fild) are used anymore. 5: Making bloody branch more accessable is something I can agree to and is not as abusable as the MvP room. The way I'd make them more accessable is by lowering it's cost as an event reward. This way both newer players and older players are able to get them pretty easily as we have quite a few luckbased/knowledge based events as well. Quote
life30 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 Noo ... I think GM should not implement the mvp room becoz mvp card is onli the way to help tis server grow .. Think if u can get a mvp card in the mvp room den who else going to buy the TOKEN xD Quote
Cherry Kiss Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 i still disagree this idea... Quote
Martin Posted January 16, 2013 Report Posted January 16, 2013 No Thana ._.;;The max amount of zeny you can hold is 1,000,000,000.... hahahah Quote