Leo `D Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Haha perfect as you say, how can you say that you dont have one, and Str on Ring dont need of prof It doesn't do a high melee damage all skill base on Int Magical Attack even Stave as Normal Skill it doesn't need Atk boost its still not perfect you just destroying the Ring for Prof how can i believe you, you haven't tested it on battles even you do math for your self it still doesn't compute perfect I still would suggest Stave Crusher for cursed Ring 10% or 20% I don't care, remove the +20 Atk this doesn't need Atk, this doesn't count on damage to any skill. Beside the quest is for to be done on Both rings if the Cursed Ring is made to Str Hybrids who will make that? I think you haven't done the quest. Fate of the Goddess II has the same difficulty on each ring to make. I would suggest for you to do the quest and test the ring In Game so you will know it and not make any superstition. Edited October 31, 2012 by Leo `D
7lovestories Posted October 31, 2012 Report Posted October 31, 2012 Usakoring card is for tanking physical damages not magic. And yea u voluspa is available but im gonna ask you do u hab one? If u only hab one weapon like proff highness the 20% stave crasher will be useful. And besides your whining like everyone has the rings..
Beautiful Posted October 31, 2012 Report Posted October 31, 2012 Usakoring card is for tanking physical damages not magic. And yea u voluspa is available but im gonna ask you do u hab one? If u only hab one weapon like proff highness the 20% stave crasher will be useful. And besides your whining like everyone has the rings..so because only a few people have the rings you want it to only benefit you?, i wouldnt be so negative about this if a few people finished the quest and if like 4-10 people had it but because only you guys have it its pretty much your idea against everyone. 1
Rayray Posted October 31, 2012 Report Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) I really do not know if you understand written English well. YOU don't need the attack boost since you are a bolter prof. NOT ALL PROFS GO THAT ROUTE. DO I HAVE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS BEFORE YOU GET THAT POINT? THEY MADE TWO SET OF RINGS FOR DIFFERENT BUILDS ON CHARACTERS. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE TWO RINGS WITH ALMOST IDENTICAL SPRITES. YOU WANT TO CHANGE BOTH RINGS FOR YOUR NEEDS. on profs not needing attack, again that is true on bolter profs. while yes, most skills of profs are for magic, but there are certain skills of prof that makes it a really great melee character. It got 4 elemental endows that needs simple items, it got it's own autocast ability that changes skills depending on level, has huge reducts because of energy coat, has magnetic earth to shut gunslingers, HAS WALL OF FOG, and has a skill called fiber lock to stop people from running; low melee damage? my prof does 4k-6k attacks using incant and 1 mix a belt(using ring of resonance earlier) and using elite book. ill test it out later with thana and 2 loki's seals once i borrow them just to prove i can do melee damage on prof. @sai "have: is spelled with -ve, not b. and thank you for proving my point that it is hard to tank magic damage compared to others. i can't believe you fell for that. With your statement, it proves that geared or ungeared enemy, bolts can hit up to 12k unless the enemy is actually wearing elemental resist armor, which only a few will use since GTB is always available. so no, profs don't need any more help regarding damage while 20% increase on stave crasher will help people that use highness, those same people can also use voluspa. Voluspa gives 60% more damage on stave crasher, adding your suggestion of 20% that is a total of 80% increase in stave crasher. if that happens, profs virtually have no more weakness. Your last statement made me laugh. With that logic, it will be ok for me to have an item that gives OP stats as long as there is only one in the server. Just because there are a few rings we should just buff the items stats until someone realizes they are OP in game? are you high? . Edited October 31, 2012 by ZerO25
Leo `D Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Posted October 31, 2012 Your meele damage cant kill its just a props prof that can do melee still you will do magic at the end, that build that to prove can do melee but not for long time just at testing. can't do at GvG, Br and WoE. Changing Element to player is not Working only for monster if you are referring to Elemental Change Changing all that element is a waste of slot in keys, after all I don't have enough slots left to put all that so i concentrate on 1 bolt Gunslinger has a range Atk that can be spam fast+ring for that damage and Fiber Lock and Fog Wall not working if Magnetic is on think of that. Idk if i believe you or just trolling to get more post points of just jealous being don't have one ring. sorry man that doesn't convince me since your i don't see your prof always or it always being killed that's why i don't see it. Note: good for the Voluspa having this Stave Crusher additional damage it will get more attention to be donate.
Aerynth Posted October 31, 2012 Report Posted October 31, 2012 You ain't convincing us for this suggestionas well. Jealousy has nothing to do with it. If you got the time and effort to farm the rings, you can spend that same effort on getting a Voluspa, also, imagine if suggestion do get accepted for SC, you "might" still get a Voluspa at the end of the day, that adds up to more damage. I'd agree if its really underpowered, but proff isn't underpowered, if you can tell me sinx doesn't need imbalance boost, then I am doing it the same for you. What we have is enough, the moment you ask for something like this, sooner or later, everyone is gonna ask for a boost to balance out everything.
Leo `D Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Its not over powered as you can think unless you try it and do some testing, that's why I need the Gm tested it and came from them if it over powered Edited October 31, 2012 by Leo `D
Rayray Posted November 1, 2012 Report Posted November 1, 2012 You really do not have a grasp on what battle profs do. nope not elemental change idiot, i said elemental ENDOWS. endow tornado and the such. oh and i do kill people on my battle prof, you think 4k-6k damage is low on melee when you bolt almost the same damage? i'm not even full str on that one, im only using 1 mix a belt. oh and with thana and 2 loki's/str belts, i did way more damage than your bolts, ill SS it for you. fiber and fog, why the hell do you think i always keep magnetic on when i use them? stop assuming that i do the same stupid things you did. If you need convincing, cmon ill duel you. your prof vs mine. let's see what you can do. And Shane is not talking about the suggestion, but profs as a whole. profs aren't underpowered, they are one of the most balanced characters in game, so no need to give it boosts.
Leo `D Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Posted November 1, 2012 Your prof will nothing to do with me haha don't ever intend to dream about it, haha you will do reflect and Gtb that can't kill me normal atk
Rayray Posted November 1, 2012 Report Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) My prof would do nothing you say? and yet you are the one dodging my challenge. that says so much. Edited November 1, 2012 by ZerO25
Leo `D Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Posted November 1, 2012 haha pm me anytime :D let see if that can kill normal atk only
Rayray Posted November 1, 2012 Report Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Oh are we limiting what we can do for a duel? so i only use normal attack and you just use bolts. seems fair to you? use whatever strategy you come up with against me, ill do the same to you. IGN? Edited November 1, 2012 by ZerO25
Leo `D Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Posted November 1, 2012 I can you what skill i have same goes for you but no bolts the only has Ring here
Leo `D Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) you see me already and watching pvp with that bio keep reflecting my damage :D and you see the damage of Stave Crusher in full gear 16k only will voluspa that can't kill much to a full gear character Edited November 1, 2012 by Leo `D
Rayray Posted November 1, 2012 Report Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Ok as we tested, i cannot kill you with melee at 3k damage. in short without having thana at least, melee profs are too hard to use unless I strip somebody or have high attack, that is why for me the cursed should still have the 20% atk. your Stave hits me 18k without energy coat, 15k with. you are already using voluspa. you killed me when you were already able to strip my shield and bolted me. it was a nice duel and made me come up with a conclusion. I am going to assume that you are using incant on the voluspa. in my opinion the damage is good enough. 18k on gtb is already hard to tank for most characters. if you had thana, you would've killed me fast enough, and it wouldn't need you to hit me for a long time until you were able to strip me(as i mentioned, i had high dex ).. Also, it was a long duel. if i had fcp, it would've been gone by about the same time you were able to strip me. i think you assumed that i had fcp from the start and waited. 10% increase on stave= you would hit people on gtb roughly 19800. almost 20k, 20% increase on stave=roughly 21600 damage. and you were able to last long enough against Seigaku's onslaught on his creator. as he also said, you should not aim to kill every class there is. no class can do that.. although we have some near OP ones like LKs. based in all of this, on your suggestion. i still cannot agree with the 20% increase on the cursed. voluspa does it's job very well already, and if you had thana, you wouldn't even need to resort to stripping against me, i would've died when you spam stave on me. your stave damage is the average damage of snipers with no thana.. and people cannot afford to go usakoring on that since you will die with bolts. which means profs are fine the way they are now. 5%-10% increase in stave crasher, i could agree on that, since well it still took you to strip and bolt me since 15k staves wouldn't even kill a 200k hp prof of mine. but it might still need further testing, since thana stave really hurts too. Edited November 1, 2012 by ZerO25 1
Leo `D Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Posted November 2, 2012 hehe Dude still Melee Prof can't kill it just take time :D even if you have thana still don't do damage of what you expecting it and doing melee with thana can be more noticeable and switch to double Anti
Rayray Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 i do damage on thana fine when i borrowed it along with 2x loki seals. might not be as high as magic but im ok with him. i only have trouble against people with fcp anyway.
Leo `D Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Posted November 20, 2012 revive topic wanna suggest please do read
Shadi Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 Professor Cursed Ring Current: Professor Cursed Ring: Walking speed +15% Reduce Damage taken from Demihumans by 5% Reduce Vit def by 10% HP +15% SP +5% Matk +20% Int +35 Attack +20% I very very very much love the current effect and would hate to see it changed to the suggested stats in the first post. I'm actually on the hunt to get this item and cant wait to see how it turns out using this instead of my balloon. I'm sure it will be epic and I love the thought that has been put into this ring. I've been waiting for quite a while for a boost to battle profs instead of bolter profs and this item might just do it ! I don't think I've seen Zero's melee prof yet but I know that mine has no trouble killing people so far.
Rayray Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 ^ I am still missing some key items on my battle prof so my damage isn't as good as people would think :p. although i really have fun using him
Shadi Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 There's a few essential items for battle prof on this server yes. But once you have those I'm convinced battle profs can be a fierce opponent to a lot of classes due to decent damage output and nice survivability skills as well. Therefore I prefer not changing the mentioned ring as I love having a second way to play professors , other than bolting. Battle profs sure are a lot more fun to play.
Leo `D Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Posted November 27, 2012 :D i've be hoping to see that in the future but, in how you turn the things are you will end up in bolting. lets face the fact :D
Shadi Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 I'm definitely not going back to bolting prof. Actually I never liked bolting prof as much, it's so darn boring. I even went PD/survivability/webber prof over bolter prof for WoE and such. So nope. Can't agree with you that I'm ending up as a full bolter build.