Xtopher Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 This isn't WoE 1. You can't rush and break like before. It is entirely possible for this to happen.The Guardians probably have more HP than the emperium does right now. On top of that, every guild members has direct access to the Emperium Central Control where they can warp to ANY section (flanking). There are 3 sets of barricades as well, each individual monster has to be destroyed before you can move. This is how WoE should be. I understand its possible for that one castle not to be broken. I said the average guild member. With a hot new item like this the first people to get will be guild leaders, co-leaders, and then on to ranking officers etc... The average guild member won't get an imperial for maybe months.
Veralynn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Sounds awesome, I might have to take friday off of work to try it out ;D
Genesis Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 I understand its possible for that one castle not to be broken. I said the average guild member. With a hot new item like this the first people to get will be guild leaders, co-leaders, and then on to ranking officers etc... The average guild member won't get an imperial for maybe months.That's entirely possible, we will have to see how it works out. Sounds awesome, I might have to take friday off of work to try it out ;DIts fun, really fun. Specially the map we picked. Its geared towards big battles. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up though. I mean, we tested this at least 5 times on the test server but that is just with 2~3 characters. This is going to be on a massive scale. Problems may arise, we might have to end it early.
Veralynn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) That's entirely possible, we will have to see how it works out. Its fun, really fun. Specially the map we picked. Its geared towards big battles. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up though. I mean, we tested this at least 5 times on the test server but that is just with 2~3 characters. This is going to be on a massive scale. Problems may arise, we might have to end it early. All the desp spamming from 15 gunslingers is going to own the map. (I'm one of them ;D) Any news on the new card effects? I've been looking forward to them everyday. Edited October 2, 2011 by Veralynn
Meka Meka Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 restore the GVH bonus and recolor Gold Imp. thats all id needed basically. +1. I think Imps are already worth their cost. Server economy/price difference is and has been largely based on style rather than stat advantage.
Veralynn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 +1. I think Imps are already worth their cost. Server economy/price difference is and has been largely based on style rather than stat advantage. I don't know, I like the increase in my imp's value, but I would agree with a small stat buff/recolor. I prefer things the way they are though.
Kittie Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 When did GvH stop being dropped from the woe castles? I thought that's where they came from?
TensaZangetsu Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 great update, lucky i sold all my gvh and bought a blue imp lmao
Levis Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 We might, do some sort of compensation for those that have it. What is in your mind? I am curious. I think GVH was special due to the 3 All stats it added. That was a huge difference between Tan and GVH. 1
Aerynth Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 I just don't know what to say. I got poorer for all I know. At rage now. +3 makes alot of difference, somehow rather. Don't ask why, it just do. Tan and GVH, ROFLMFAO, what is there to comment? And you said you'll soon add GVH to the exchanger? Wtf, in the first place, everybody work hard for it from Woe, and now it became totally obselete. I spend tokens to get the GVH that I finally work hard for, just a few weeks ago, and now it got nerfed this will extent. I might as well buy 9 Fhelm rather than that GVH I just got. Imps? I am now no where near of getting an Imp right now, or in the future. 7k ++ for a Blue Imp, wow. I love this server but somehow this, just made me lost the passion for it. If initially you said that GVH are not suppose to drop in the first place, why let it drop for such a long period of time? Great, simply the best.
Leo `D Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 thats nice having the imperial +4 - 5 stats than nerfing the Gvh....
Melon Bread Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Yet again, it's just the same as Xtopher said, as he mentioned, it takes the average guild member a really long time to actually get a GVH, not to mention that a full guild is supposed to be supplied a GVH each, 76 people, that's 19% of the population of the server every full guild (or more). As someone mentioned, it would have been better to buff the imps instead of nerfing the GVH (which is widely used throughout the server). The GVH now, is just a useless 'valk' helm with the same effect as it. The price of GVH fell by 70%, that's a big fall for people who spent 150 recently or 200-250+ a long time ago. Anyways, we can just wait and see what this 'compensation' provides us. yours, Mel/Simplicity.
golden Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Apparently gvh has been robbed of its +3 all stats this has destroyed my build WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO D: I agree with him this messes up my build completely even though its just 3 stats it was still very use full for my hp.
Lag Seeing Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 well, we might just have to bear with it, i got 2 GvH and dun know what to do with them. LOL
Dudu Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 S> GVH [20 Each]. Talkin about Woe 2.0, i bet it has to be like 2 hours per woe. And Like everyone is sayin, Genesis, +3 REALLY changes things up, if you are pvp'in against a Clown, he breaks your GvH, you wear a Fhelm, you are missing 3 stats to cast bolts with insta cast. Now that GvH are useless, you should just remove them, the Tan Valk item sprite looks hotter, plus is the same shit now.
Leaz Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 S> GVH [20 Each]. Talkin about Woe 2.0, i bet it has to be like 2 hours per woe. And Like everyone is sayin, Genesis, +3 REALLY changes things up, if you are pvp'in against a Clown, he breaks your GvH, you wear a Fhelm, you are missing 3 stats to cast bolts with insta cast. Now that GvH are useless, you should just remove them, the Tan Valk item sprite looks hotter, plus is the same shit now. isn't the gvh and tan f.helm the same color?
Meka Meka Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 isn't the gvh and tan f.helm the same color? It is.
Seraphine Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Guys, it's +3 all stats. I don't really see why or how this is such a big deal but it seems to have become one. +3 stats in no way will kill your build since everyone's builds will now be adjusted to compensate for the minus 3 stat loss for those who had a Golden Valkyrie Helm and didn't have an Imperial helm. 3 stats gives you a minor, a very minor advantage over another player and is no way a game breaker, like Genesis said the Balloons make up for +2 of the stats so your only loosing +1 on your stats if the other player doesn't have a Balloon . I also don't get why everyone is saying "remove them their useless now" there's no real point to doing that when the players who had a Golden Valkyrie Helm would loose even more. Let me quote Genesis here: 3 weeks, assuming it doesn't get broken. I always found it weird that a Valkyrie helm dropped from a castle. It was inconsistent, didn't make any sense. Not to mention a few other issues that it presented in regards to WoE 2. We might, do some sort of compensation for those that have it. Also, I don't think a 3 stat change (technically 1 if you get the balloon) constitutes 3 steps back. You take some you lose some. My advice the less everyone complains the more of a chance you might get compensation for your Golden Valkyrie Helm in whatever form that may be . Edited October 2, 2011 by Seraphine
Meka Meka Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) ...it takes the average guild member a really long time to actually get a GVH, not to mention that a full guild is supposed to be supplied a GVH each, 76 people, that's 19% of the population of the server every full guild (or more)... Agreed. I'd say it's a big deal for most because an item that a lot of people worked hard for became devalued so much so quickly. It's a lot of wasted time. Edited October 2, 2011 by Meka Meka
Aerynth Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) That extra +3 gave me extra 60 damage on my stalker, due to the fact it makes up the stats to the divisible of 10. My dex used to be 300+160 now, is 300+157. Don't tell me the balloon make up for the +2 stats if you're trying to market it, cause with the balloon it will make me have 300+159 instead. How did that not break my build? And I have no money to buy Imp . We are already interested in the balloon even when we have our GVH with the +3 stats. I hope now you see how +3 stats makes alot of difference to the community. Imps are expensive, so the GVH are there to compensate for it. GVH is already the Golden Imp Helm, for a long time, removing the +3 stats and creating another item which practically the exact same item just with the name change is totally outrageous. No one will bother to check if I'm wearing a Golden Imp Helm, or the Golden Valkyrie helm. My thoughts is, find a replacement for the Golden Imp helm instead since no one has it yet. I'm sure most will agree to this. Hope that clears out to you how the +3 stats is to every important everyone. Edited October 2, 2011 by Aerynth
hazel Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 +2 from the Balloon sure will balance the GVH -3. But the question is, will all people have money to donate for a balloon? I know some people dont want to spend any dime, instead they would farm hard just to buy a nice gear. And also, the balloon will soon become tradable n i bet the price will so be so high since people will need that +2 advantage. But we'll see how things go with this new update. Let's just bear with it and see how things go. Goodluck to us :)
Genesis Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Guys, it's +3 all stats. I don't really see why or how this is such a big deal but it seems to have become one. +3 stats in no way will kill your build since everyone's builds will now be adjusted to compensate for the minus 3 stat loss for those who had a Golden Valkyrie Helm and didn't have an Imperial helm. 3 stats gives you a minor, a very minor advantage over another player and is no way a game breaker, like Genesis said the Balloons make up for +2 of the stats so your only loosing +1 on your stats if the other player doesn't have a Balloon . I also don't get why everyone is saying "remove them their useless now" there's no real point to doing that when the players who had a Golden Valkyrie Helm would loose even more. Let me quote Genesis here: My advice the less everyone complains the more of a chance you might get compensation for your Golden Valkyrie Helm in whatever form that may be . Pretty much. This happens every update. Something get's changed, people complain about it. There is always, ALWAYS something to complain about. Or at least, people always find something to complain about. I don't particularly want to spend my time if I see little to no appreciation. I am looking at you Dudu.
Seraphine Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Pretty much. This happens every update. Something get's changed, people complain about it. There is always, ALWAYS something to complain about. Or at least, people always find something to complain about. I don't particularly want to spend my time if I see little to no appreciation. I am looking at you Dudu. ^ Agreed I hope everyone realizes this , everyone who contributes to the server in anyway does this out of there FREE TIME of there own will . The least that could happen is show just a little appreciation and respect for the contributors of the server. I find it rather disgusting over some of the negative, and bashful comments towards the server just over this issue.
Dudu Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Then keep looking. Leaz: I meant the Item sprite in the Inventory, the Tan one is Different than the GvH. Gen, when a update is up, i ALWAYS comment about both of POSITIVE and NEGATIVE things that happens on the update. I am, i repeat, i am very excited of this Woe 2.0 thingie since it will attract more people, but still, This GvH thingie, it will affect older people and even new people that spend 200 tokens on a simple valk helm ( Looks at GvH ) Seraphine, +3 stats really screws up builds, you need 150 for insta cast, not 147. Im looking at you fRO population.
Aerynth Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Gen we all are excited for the WOE 2.0, maybe the way Dudu said it is a little too offensive. But seeing how the long ever lasting GVH just turn crap is really outrageous. GVH and Golden Imp Helm is the same item. The only diiference is the name and NOW the diffence of 3 stats, we all have been paying for GVH at 200 tokens average for the +3 stats and now, with the new Golden Imp Helm, would we be paying alot more? Like per say, even more than all the other Imps, just for that +3 stats? In the end, like I said its the same either nevertheless, even with the difference of the name. Who would bother checking my equipsment info just to see whether or not I'm wearing an Golden Imperial Helm, or GVH, cause I'll be closing the equipment info all the time. I understand the new update for the Golden Imperial Helm to compliment together with the new Gold Emp Aura. I just feel its impractical thats all. I love the new updates, but this one minor detail would change the way things are in Fro, I'm sorry Gen, we love you, but this just make us love you a little lesser. Cheers. Add on, I foresee the price of the Golden Imperial Helm to be at market price 10k? Since Blue Imp now cost 7k. In the end, we're now paying 9.8k extra just for the old GVH but with the different name. If we are to buy the imps and not get it of course. Again, we all appreciate you guys hard work and effort. Is just that, you guys like you always said, are open up to opinions and this our opinions, its not to bash your work, just open up and take our critism. I mean you Seraphine. We're stating the mere fact. Please understand as we understand you too AND WE DO SHOW APPRECIATION. Dont accuse us for not showing it because we do show it, we are just unhappy with the GVH. I never donated for any games in my life, Fro is the only game that made me ever want to donate, its not the items that I am actually donating for, is for the betterment of the server. Edited October 2, 2011 by Aerynth
