Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Basically it would work as a thread for that week would be made by a GM and you leave your in game name in that thread and once that closes,a bracket would be made for example let's say theirs 15 people who want to participate in this weeks so 5 people in each bracket and theirs 3 brackets,each player would be matched with another player and would move on and on until only 1 player from each bracket remains,I'm thinking that the prizes should be done in a token system like the PvP ladder,Guild Vs Guild, and Annihilation prizes,so you can pick whatever prize you would like.Also i think players posting their time zones would be beneficial to be coordinated and organized to when fights would take place and be convenient for both players if the their is a time zone difference. The prizes would go like this 1st place: 3 1v1 Tournament tokens 2nd place:2 1v1 Tournament tokens 3rd place: 1 1v1 Tournament token Possible Prizes: Forsaken Set:2 tokens Aquaring Ruck Sack :12 Tokens Firering Ruck Sack : 12 tokens GoldRing ruck sack : 12 tokens Red Emperium :18 tokens Pink Emperium : 18 tokens Gold Emperium : 18 tokens Etcetera The prizes are only ideas and they don't have to be that at all. Also this wouldn't require a ton of a work either possibly just the tokens would have to be made prizes implemented into the Prize exchanger npc , i don't think a specific map would be needed either the only thing that would be needed is at least 1 GM present to watch the fight. Leave your thoughts and opinions please and any changes/additions you think this idea needs.I'm thinking this could take up to 2 weeks to complete the whole tournament but that can be worked out later. Some basic rules/things to remember: 1:If both players die from reflect then both players get knocked out and are disqualified. 2:Fcp will be applied once in the beginning by the hosting GM. 3:All duels will be done on a Last Man Standing map to prevent @storage and other outside clients. 4:Duel times can be changed to accommodate players in different time zones and will be decided from there. 5:Strip is allowed. 6:Any class is allowed. 7:Golden Thief Bug card is allowed 8:Orc Lord cards are allowed. 9:Buffing yourself prior to the event is not allowed,and all players who will be fighting will be killed then resurrected before they fight. If you have any more rules to add let me know and i will add them =] Edited June 7, 2011 by Seraphine
nines Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 to many problems. Nines' 9 reasons. 1. how do we know names selected properly. 2. only makes the richer rich. 3. gear equivlancy 4. fcp 5. strip 6. gtb 7. joos 8. time zones 9. just dumb and easy to cause more problems. :)
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) 1.What do you mean selected properly? It will be done either randomly or by a GM 2.You can't get around that. 4.Fcp will be applied once by a GM and that's it no out side clients and will be done on a Lms map where you can't @storage 5.Strip is allowed and is fair play 6.If your going to play a magic based class then it's your choice along with that you can strip their shield if you can last through 10 minutes 7.Invalid reason. 8. Time zones can be over come by meeting at the best time possible for both players 9.Invalid reason. I will add a set of rules shortly as well which will be enforced by the GM hosting the event,if it comes to it i'm willing to host it. Edited June 6, 2011 by Seraphine
Weezing Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Just x2 the amount of Tokens needed and this will look even better.
Dudu Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 @Supream: Reeasons? @Nines: Im agreed with almost all the rules. In my opinion, this would be a massive problem for the server, like Nines said, rich ppl will get richer and besides, the new update on the ladder prize that makes u get 4 pvp tokens in 2nd place, itss a boost for decent pvp'ers to get a chance to get a Sacred Wing, which i think its already too much since the prices are going up n up. So yeah i disagree.
Weezing Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Althought rich people always get richer, no matter how hard you try. This is a boost for pvp'ers aswell, thought just a 1vs1 Tournament, which I think is better than Ladder Imo. So yeah, I gotta agree.
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 This suggestion promotes 1v1 play instead of the PvP room which is gang vs gang so if your a good Pvper then you have a chance even if you only have semi decent gears.
nines Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) How can it be abused? Well GMs can choose their friends and lets say it all the GMs are geard chars and have geard ass friends. So they can choose their friends a lot and they also know which people will die easir so they'll pair them up vs them. And if its randomized it would need to be generated and then put onto a video for proof. Also everyone would just go stalker soooo no point. is their a time limit? their better be. and it better be in a cramped ass room. And why is it. Gtb is allowed but orc lording a champ isn't allowed....thats special treatment. They could use maya....or magic reductions.....be forced to use em would be better. Edited June 6, 2011 by nines
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Wouldn't be to hard to do a video of it.30 minute time limit? Okay so how about making Golden Thief Bug card illegal? And I see where your coming from and i can agree with it. Edited June 6, 2011 by Seraphine
Sorrow Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Stalker? On the other hand! If i was to play this, i'd go creator all the way! XD About the Orc Lord issue; i agree it should be allowed, champs will go all out if they are certain that the person they are going to attack isn't using/is unable to use, Orc Lords; besides, Paladins can eat up asuras, killing the Champ and surviving the proccess, not allowing them to use their specialty is not very nice... Its simple to come up with a solution; if both die, both are disqualified. Champs have more options of attack, not only asura. And someone porpousedly reflecting a champ dying when doing it won't have much of a shot on winning so there. i also would say that a LMS thingie should be enforced; no running around non-stop just to wait FCP go by, the 10 minutes that FCP would stay on are to be filled with hot action. All in all, i like the idea :3
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 Ok if both die from reflect then both are disqualified.
supream Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 also, make them fight, if stalkers are just running around waiting for the fcp the ware off, or any other class for that matter, that dosent seem fair.
Xtopher Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 GTB should be allowed. Its a card. Its in the game. Deal with it. Otherwise mages and clowns/gypsys would run wild on this. Couldn't you just allow for the first xx of people to sign up for the contest on the forum then draw slots randomly through name generators like the one Genesis used in the DS give away? You cut out all bias then and its first come first serve. Sign up on the forum by posting?
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 Yeah that could work out well.. And i guess your right about Gtb.
Mint Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 1.Would the rules be the same as LMS? As in, No Kaizel, No Basillica etc. and also could it be in a map where skills like "Leap" work, unlike the current LMS map. 2. What if someone doesn't turn up for their given time slot?
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) 1: Not sure about this one. 2: If they don't show up for their given time slot they will be disqualified,if you live in Europe or in a different time zone you can talk to me on the forums through pms or msn and we can discuss a time that works for both players,that's why i want everyone when they leave their In game name to as well leave their time zone so we might know who may have a problem making their designated slot. Their will also be a small window as to where you can sign up for that weeks Tournament such as 1 day maybe 2 but no more. Edited June 6, 2011 by Seraphine
nines Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 All classes are welcome. Ok well chris gtb is a card made for extreme rarity because of what it does. here it isn't and gtb doesn't stop fkin coma card and even if they did use gtb vs a clown guess what they can just fkin av you...so clowns and gypsys are still gonna be present because they are one of the best 1v1 classes. Profs can get their damage nerfd so easy so magic resistance items and element reduction gear helps a lot with that.....or you know sgw? mythical aura? wear a shield maybe....don't use a tao....angeling? How is it all classes are welcome if, your a reflect paladin and you can't use your orc lords because its a rule or if your a mage or wizard you cant participate because gtb is allowed. To many problems into balancing this. It will always be unfair especially on a high rate server.
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Orc Lords are allowed.. without Golden Thief Bug in place Magic classes can easily kill other classes, and Proffs can find ways around it like Safety Wall and wait until fcp runs out and then possibly strip their shield.No one says you have to play a magic class....were not forcing you to play a magic class if you choose to play a magic class then you know Gtb is part of the game. Edited June 6, 2011 by Seraphine
Mint Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Orc Lords are allowed.. without Golden Thief Bug in place Magic classes can easily kill other classes, and Proffs can find ways around it like Safety Wall and wait until fcp runs out and then possibly strip their shield.No one says you have to play a magic class....were not forcing you to play a magic class if you choose to play a magic class then you know Gtb is part of the game. Can I just add: Say Proff vs Sniper, Sniper puts on GTB and proff cant do anything, cant use magic because of GTB and cant "Safety wall and wait until fcp runs out" and then strip their shield because of Sniper's high dex. But as you said, players choose their classes, just some are naturally 'weak' against others.
Dudu Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Then why not removing Magic classes from the tournament.
Xtopher Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 All classes are welcome. Ok well chris gtb is a card made for extreme rarity because of what it does. here it isn't and gtb doesn't stop fkin coma card and even if they did use gtb vs a clown guess what they can just fkin av you...so clowns and gypsys are still gonna be present because they are one of the best 1v1 classes. Profs can get their damage nerfd so easy so magic resistance items and element reduction gear helps a lot with that.....or you know sgw? mythical aura? wear a shield maybe....don't use a tao....angeling? How is it all classes are welcome if, your a reflect paladin and you can't use your orc lords because its a rule or if your a mage or wizard you cant participate because gtb is allowed. To many problems into balancing this. It will always be unfair especially on a high rate server. First nines, gtb does block the coma tarot card. Switching back and forth from gtb/usak is a great strategy for fighting clowns and gypsies. Next, you can't rightfully complain about one card imbalancing your class. First, you're choosing to play a magic class knowing that there is in fact a card that will null all magic damage. Second, you're relying totally on magic damage. May I suggest the new stave crasher additions to prof? I've seen Crim beat many people who use GTB by simply augmenting his wizard's build to a magic and asura build while forcing gtb and skolls he kills them with asura. GTB is a card, the administration has chosen to keep it the way it is for ever, so I see no reason to make special rules for this event banning GTB when it has never been banned before. He said orc lords are allowed. However if you both die you're both disqualified. Can I just add: Say Proff vs Sniper, Sniper puts on GTB and proff cant do anything, cant use magic because of GTB and cant "Safety wall and wait until fcp runs out" and then strip their shield because of Sniper's high dex. But as you said, players choose their classes, just some are naturally 'weak' against others. Yes, some classes are naturally weak. I'm sorry but there will never be perfect balance in RO. It won't ever be completely fair. What are the odds of me winning something like this on a Priest? Not very good... Finally, I like the idea of the event Seraphine, but as you can already see its going to spark a lot of debate and complaining.
Mint Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 Then why not removing Magic classes from the tournament. It would be unfair, just as removing non-magic classes would be.
Guest lolensue Posted June 6, 2011 Report Posted June 6, 2011 can we also talk about snipers vs champions/priests? snipers loose regarding this state :( -- even trapping/magnum breaking the champ outside the pneuma is hard. :( i dont think i can agree to this.. and even with the GTB/OL issue. i kinda semi-agree to what nines said
Seraphine Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) This isn't a debate on how to counter classes if your uncomfortable with a class then don't play that class it's really that simple.Snipers have range use it to your advantage. Also no more talking about this class vs this class really it shouldn't matter because in the end your the one picking the class and you know what your up against. And yes i know it's going to spark alot of debate but really the mechanics of the game aren't going to change because Mages,and priests are support classes in essence so why use them when you know you'll be at a disadvantage and then complain about it? Most if not all classes have a match up their bad against. Edited June 6, 2011 by Seraphine
