Event Item Changes.

[TensaZangetsu]

ok, i still don't see how she misread your post. You were talking about how the rich can only get this item and how balance is the key ~blahblah. Then she brings up her opinion of the topic.

It is very hard to understand your broken english.

Yea and her opinion is some what similar to HerLove, which mentions about hard work and etc. Don't blame other just you can't read. Lets drop this conversation cause basically we're talking in circles, now go do something productive with yourself.

[Leaz]

Yea and her opinion is some what similar to HerLove, which mentions about hard work and etc. Don't blame other just you can't read. Lets drop this conversation cause basically we're talking in circles, now go do something productive with yourself.

who cares if it was similar? she still described her opinion/views on your post. Just how your post was similar to Ryuk's post. So who can't read? let me answer it for you,

you.

Edited April 27, 2011 by Leaz

[HerLove]

Well since I cant convince you all otherwise maybe showing you guys might help! I tested out asura with zod and skull aura (zod having a 5% dmg boost and skull aura not both with +20 stats) to see the damage difference it would offer. The difference with full asura, I mean everything to up asura you can wear with no outside buffs, was 7k damage.

Here are the screen shots.

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The first two are with skull aura to show the damage with it since it has +20 stats and no 5% increase. The second two are with zodiac aura since it has +20 stats and 5% damage. As you can see the damage increase is tiny. For a month of work I think 4-7k extra damage is atleast justified.

Edited April 27, 2011 by HerLove

[TensaZangetsu]

who cares if it was similar? she still described her opinion/views on your post. Just how your post was similar to Ryuk's post. So who can't read? let me answer it for you,

you.

Well obviously its similar, but you said " I think she read your post just fine" okay... if she did read it clearly then why she asking similar question to HerLove because I doubt she didn't read it cause it was above her post, this is why i told her to read my previous post more clearly. OMFG LOL, you hate being wrong do ya? Edited April 27, 2011 by TensaZangetsu

[Drax]

I agree on the main point that something different should be added to the GvG prize rucksacks because working that hard or buying them for around 8k tokens you should get something different than what a 50 token rucksack has also.

[Leaz]

Well obviously its similar, but you said " I think she read your post just fine" okay... if she did read it clearly then why she asking similar question to HerLove because I doubt she didn't read it cause it was above her post, this is why i told her to read my previous post more clearly. OMFG LOL, you hate being wrong do ya?

again that broken english.

what's wrong with asking/stating similar questions/opinions? you basically repeated what ryuk said.

Everyone is posting their opinions, so of course some are going to be similar.

just because she stated similar questions/opinions doesn't mean she misread it, which you clearly were implying.

Edited April 27, 2011 by Leaz

[Kayleigh]

Yea and her opinion is some what similar to HerLove, which mentions about hard work and etc. Don't blame other just you can't read. Lets drop this conversation cause basically we're talking in circles, now go do something productive with yourself.

I think by now we all understood wth you're trying to point out.. or not. The reason why mine and HerLove's posts are similar is because we both wrote them at the same time (not knowing about the other), replying to your insulting post. And that post, among many others from you, was really unnecessary. So let's stop this now. We've already heard your opinion on this suggestion.

If we can't agree on the atk/matk boost then maybe something different, like mentioned before +2 or +3 all stats, like the imp helms. And to be honest, I never knew some rucksacks have no walking speed reduction o_o"

[Miracle]

Every post from now on should stay on topic (Adding additions to GvG Prizes). Do not directly address one another without something constructive to say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions without being attacked for having them (TensaZangetsu). Warn statuses will be adjusted accordingly from this point.

Edited April 27, 2011 by Miracle

[TensaZangetsu]

Every post from now on should stay on topic (Adding additions to GvG Prizes). Do not directly address one another without something constructive to say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions without being attacked for having them (TensaZangetsu). Warn statuses will be adjusted accordingly from this point.

Lmfao, All I posted was a comment referring to HerLove and my opinion ends up being criticize, so I did any human would do and respond back, maybe if you taken the time to read you will understand more, oh and also, I don't let people step on me unlike some people.

[Leaz]

@Herlove, What are you a freaking General for the United States Marines? Its a game for god sakes and you go head make your assumptions on me because obviously you don't know nothing about me and I'm gonna be the bigger person and spare the argument as i've already mention my reason for disagreeing and I assumed you respect my decision and lets leave it at that.

maybe you should read your own stuff. You can obviously tell you posted your opinion, herlove replied to it and you criticized him.

good, sir~

Edited April 27, 2011 by Leaz

[Nadtorious]

Just remove the -10% walking speed . Den PENG !!

[HerLove]

Just remove the -10% walking speed . Den PENG !!

There are already rucksacks with no walk speed delay hence the suggestion of the other additions.

[TensaZangetsu]

maybe you should read your own stuff. You can obviously tell you posted your opinion, herlove replied to it and you criticized him.

good, sir~

The post that started it all was post number #27 and I don't blame him for responding back cause that's how things goes in suggestion, but on the other hand you jump into a 1 on 1 conversation on post #39 that ended 3 or 4 poses ago and criticizing my opinion and you got it all wrong I never said HerLove, I was talking about you. Bringing it up isn't necessary which like I said, I only responded too and I assume you don't respect my opinion or you wouldn't drag this conversation on this far which is quite funny if you ask me. I'll be the bigger person and end this pointless conversation, so this will be my last post.

"good, sir~"

Edited April 27, 2011 by TensaZangetsu

[Leaz]

The post that started it all was post number #27 and I don't blame him for responding back cause that's how things goes in suggestion, but on the other hand you jump into a 1 on 1 conversation on post #39 that ended 3 or 4 poses ago and criticizing my opinion and you got it all wrong I never said HerLove, I was talking about you. Bringing it up isn't necessary which like I said, I only responded too and I assume you don't respect my opinion or you wouldn't drag this conversation on this far which is quite funny if you ask me. I'll be the bigger person and end this pointless conversation, so this will be my last post.

"good, sir~"

ok, well i still don't see how hislove read your post wrong and i never criticized your opinion, i just stated what i think about your opinion.

you're right, it is quite funny how you keep trying to redeem yourself with making more pointless posts.

very gud sir

Edited April 27, 2011 by Leaz

[Nadtorious]

There are already rucksacks with no walk speed delay hence the suggestion of the other additions.

Which rucksack is it ? Sorry for the noobiness .

[Guest lolensue]

^bee rucks/butterfree rucks. Then add 10% movement speed. that aint bad

[Nadtorious]

^bee rucks/butterfree rucks. Then add 10% movement speed. that aint bad

[Xtopher]

The 5% magic attack is nothing really. Matk is so variable it won't make too much of a difference.

The 5% physical damage is counterbalanced by Friggs King Shield. The shield gives 5% redux, 10% hp and 5 vit so it more than counters the 5% suggestion for rucks here.

All in all, it won't make TOO much of a difference. The only big beneficiary is full asura champions but as we all know asura can be reduced to near nothing in damage with the proper items.

Note: Rucksacks should not make you move faster than normal. That is what the wings we have are for.

As for people talking about the market prices increasing: Yes, the price will go up slightly. However, is this a bad thing? No. It simply is an incentive for people to participate in GvG more actively and contribute to their guilds. People who do not participate and simply buy out what ever items they want will be hurt but thats not a bad thing... they're choosing to do so. No one is making you pay xxx for what ever item, you choose to pay it. If you don't like the price for something make a counter offer, if that doesn't work then don't buy it or wait for the price to drop (trust me it will, they always do).

It's the same principle as the ladder week extension. Prices rose but thats really a good thing for people who ladder. If you're just complaining about prices going up when you are just throwing around tokens buying things and not actively participating in the events that earn them... I have no sympathy for you.

[HerLove]

The 5% magic attack is nothing really. Matk is so variable it won't make too much of a difference.

The 5% physical damage is counterbalanced by Friggs King Shield. The shield gives 5% redux, 10% hp and 5 vit so it more than counters the 5% suggestion for rucks here.

All in all, it won't make TOO much of a difference. The only big beneficiary is full asura champions but as we all know asura can be reduced to near nothing in damage with the proper items.

Note: Rucksacks should not make you move faster than normal. That is what the wings we have are for.

As for people talking about the market prices increasing: Yes, the price will go up slightly. However, is this a bad thing? No. It simply is an incentive for people to participate in GvG more actively and contribute to their guilds. People who do not participate and simply buy out what ever items they want will be hurt but thats not a bad thing... they're choosing to do so. No one is making you pay xxx for what ever item, you choose to pay it. If you don't like the price for something make a counter offer, if that doesn't work then don't buy it or wait for the price to drop (trust me it will, they always do).

It's the same principle as the ladder week extension. Prices rose but thats really a good thing for people who ladder. If you're just complaining about prices going up when you are just throwing around tokens buying things and not actively participating in the events that earn them... I have no sympathy for you.

There! Everything nice and summed up in one.

[Groxy Drank]

Exactly Chris#2 that was what I was trying to explain on my topic with the Ferrari and stuff. But I guess you explained it here better, since you are the great Business man of Fro... I will just keep up with my algorithms.

Keep up the good work and study Chris you are nearly on the finish line!!!

[HerLove]

I think all points have been raised! Lets wait and see what Gen and the other higher gms have to say now.

[Nadtorious]

:biggrin:

[BlackWolf]

I Agree that the GVG rucks need a slight change in what they give because they are harder to come by, as well maybe lowering the cost it takes to win one can help the price go down because more would be given out, just like 2 or 3 win's less then the current vaule's? just an idea..But I agree some thing should be done ^_^

even if it is just lowering how many win's it will take to get one? even if it is only -1 or 2 that would help?

-Kanein-

[Essence]

I disagree with this suggestion.

1. Let's face it, GvG is basically dominated by non-Asians. Asians would have to wake up at 6 or 7 in order to participate. Not only that, GvG is held during weekdays. Which means that only Asian bums would be able to participate. Adding more to the rucksacks would not benefit ALL.

2. The Frigg's Shield is made to counter the high damage outputs by certain classes like SinX, Snipers, and Clowns / Gypsies. If you add another damage boost to them, what's the point of having more reducts if in time damage boosts will be provided for?

3. I believe, the rarity of the rucksacks should be enough. This isn't exactly a "dire need" item. The color of the rucksacks are just made for status. Having a white rucksack and a poring rucksack would not really be a matter of worry but a matter of fashion.

[HerLove]

I disagree with this suggestion.

1. Let's face it, GvG is basically dominated by non-Asians. Asians would have to wake up at 6 or 7 in order to participate. Not only that, GvG is held during weekdays. Which means that only Asian bums would be able to participate. Adding more to the rucksacks would not benefit ALL.

2. The Frigg's Shield is made to counter the high damage outputs by certain classes like SinX, Snipers, and Clowns / Gypsies. If you add another damage boost to them, what's the point of having more reducts if in time damage boosts will be provided for?

3. I believe, the rarity of the rucksacks should be enough. This isn't exactly a "dire need" item. The color of the rucksacks are just made for status. Having a white rucksack and a poring rucksack would not really be a matter of worry but a matter of fashion.

No one event is made to satisfy everyone because the time zones obviously are different. As it was stated many times this server is an american based server even though it tries to provide for other players. I dont believe that changes should be made based on who dominates any event. The fact is that the rareness associated with the rucksacks is a very limited concept. With no real advantage to having these rucksacks people do not try to win gvg because there is no need for it. That is why gvg is currently dominated by said people. Last but not least as you have seen in my post before the 5% increase is a tiny amount of damage not even 10 000 at most. I dont see how that undermines frigs completely at all.

Edited May 4, 2011 by HerLove