Zeny Use & Consumption

[Phenomenon]

Within this server, billions of zeny exist. Players accumulate it and use it for such purposes as broadcasting, decarding, and buying consumable items (Awakening Potion, Beserk Potion, Etc). While it is true that our server is unique in the way that our economy is based on Donation Coupons, instead of zeny, I believe it would be a lot more interesting, and maybe easier for beginners, if we found a more profound way to make use of zeny within our server. For now, the usefulness of zeny mostly lies in broadcasting and, somewhat, in the purchase of donation coupons, in which the seller does it in order to have zeny to broadcast. It's what has kept the business of zeny somewhat viable, but I believe we can find a more interesting way to make use of it within the server, and I would hope that all the people which have just been collecting zeny over their time on Forsaken RO would agree. Maybe charging several million zeny for a certain service, such as a rental monster to help you level or certain exclusive consumable items which buff you with Agility Up/Blessing, etc. I'm not quite sure on the concept, I just think we could find interesting things to do with zeny to make it a more viable form of economy within our server, such as it is on other servers.

Of course those are not the only possible ways of making use of zeny, those are just <b>examples</b>. I think it would be a good idea to find SOME way to get zeny thriving again, so any input woulld be greatly appreciated.

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Definite Suggestion #1 : I suggest we integrate more long & time consuming quests such as the elite king frigg's quest. It wouldn't even have to be for items that are better than our donation gear, it could be for items that help people that are just starting out. Like those questable rucksacks that were accepted oh-so-long ago. They could add +5 to all stats, slotted, with a 5% walking speed penalty. We could integrate items that are better than the elite sets, but not as good as the donation gears. Like questable gears that take a long time to hunt and obtain, and add the exact half of all the elite forsaken king's set, with the freeze immunity intact. It would not ruin our donation rates, which we depend on to keep the server paid for, but would give people some incentive to hunt more! Because right now most people's goals are to obtain donation gear because there is no clear, GOOD, alternative. If we create good questable items, which can be as good as donation gear or better, but mostly shouldn't, it would give people more of an incentive to stop pvping/sitting around all day and actually do something productive! Now how does this whole long suggestion relate to zeny use and consumption? Well, I suggest that for any future quests, we require zeny ANDDD event tokens to be required in order to finish the quest, to increase the value and use of zeny, so we can drain down some of that huge amount of zeny accumulated in the server. I added Event Tokens to the equation because they are severely under-needed right now as most event reward items are over shadowed by donation gears, this would increase there value, in turn increasing people's desire to participate in events to obtain them, in turn making this a much more active server!

Edited December 13, 2010 by Phenomenon

[Primo]

certain exclusive consumable items which buff you with Agility Up/Blessing, etc.

Already have scrolls out like these.

Just hard to find.

But over all its pretty good idea for the lvling monster since new players tend to have a hard time

[Miku]

I agree on this. Zenies only use seems to be for broadcaster or buying Bottles for Acid Demo. Something I would like to see playing and Alchemist and all would be a scroll that crushes all of the bottles into a scroll. So you can buy the scroll that will once used give you 500 Acid Bottle and 500 Bottle Grenades. Knowing that this class relies on these bottles for pvp capability and that they fly through them really really fast this would be useful and not to over powered. Would give more worth to zeny to. Or could create an npc to make the scrolls and players could sell them for zeny or what not.

Another Idea for making zeny more important is for when we get new quest coming in make zeny more of a requirement like there is on the Dragon Aura Quest.

I like the idea of buying scrolls for buffs, but this at the moment would only be beneficial to richer players, they have more use for it, can afford them, and would be more of an unbalance in LMS.

Something that is very valuable to players is Voting Coupons. The rewards you get are really good but it can get annoying waiting 60 days to get a scarf 60 days since the vote site is weird its basically 1 vote a day now. Would be 500m For one vote qpon keeps its worth just something for desperate players to rush. Also people could use this to buy zeny waaaay more often to try and get vote coupons in a rush when they need them and the price is high enough that people will still vote instead of just buying vote qpons also. This is kind of a touchy suggestion but, I'd like to see what peoples input on it are.

[Hannah]

I agree with this, it can make zeny more useful than it is now. I usually use it to buy Donation Coupons and I think it'd be more of a challenge to players if zeny could be used for something else. :) Hmm, I disagree with the Vote Coupons thing though, sorry Miku. D: I don't think it'll work out cause people would stop voting for the server and buy the coupons instead (if that's what you mean?).

[Miku]

Well they will still vote to get the vote qpons regularly but since the vote sites are messed up and it basically takes a day to vote once now I was thinking we can add buyable through zeny maybe raise price to 750m each.

[Ryuk]

I do agree with giving zeny an additional value somehow. However.

Maybe charging several million zeny for a certain service, such as a rental monster to help you level or certain exclusive consumable items which buff you with Agility Up/Blessing, etc.

Summinging monsters, yes. Buffing scrolls , no. Most buffs are class specific , only those classes should be able to cast it, else it would remove the use of some classes like the priest one. (of course this is just my opinion)

Edited October 17, 2010 by Ryuk

[Halion]

+1

[Rayray]

nicely said. kinda agree even if I am poor at the moment. :D

[Xtopher]

I do agree with giving zeny an additional value somehow. However.

Summinging monsters, yes. Buffing scrolls , no. Most buffs are class specific , only those classes should be able to cast it, else it would remove the use of some classes like the priest one. (of course this is just my opinion)

I agree with Ryuk here, I'm a strong Priest advocate so of course I'm not going to support anything that makes the class anymore useless than it already is...

I like the idea of summoning monsters though... maybe zeny rental armors? something like the elite/fking set that could be taken from a rental npc for xxx amount of zeny.

I'd suggest making them none slotted so people don't lose cards, but with specific bonuses that would liken them to the customary equipment people use... for example:

Forsaken Warrior Helmet: -15% cast delay

Forsaken Warrior Armor: +20% hp

Forsaken Warrior Boots: +5%hp +10% matk +10% dmg to demi humans

Forsaken Warrior Shield: Reduce demi-human dmg by 28%

Forsaken Warrior Cloak: -2% def -8% neutral dmg

Full Set Bonus: +3 all stats 50% immune to Freeze +30% more damage to boss type monsters.

These are all kinda just off the top of my head... of course we could also do individual weapons per class for rent for zeny... I think these would be useful to those who are newer or poorer ingame and don't have elite/fking equipment yet.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Xtopher

[jorgesilvera]

Agree.

I would like to see more trade of zeny.

Edited October 20, 2010 by jorgesilvera

[OverRated]

I agree with Ryuk here, I'm a strong Priest advocate so of course I'm not going to support anything that makes the class anymore useless than it already is...

I like the idea of summoning monsters though... maybe zeny rental armors? something like the elite/fking set that could be taken from a rental npc for xxx amount of zeny.

I'd suggest making them none slotted so people don't lose cards, but with specific bonuses that would liken them to the customary equipment people use... for example:

Forsaken Warrior Helmet: -15% cast delay

Forsaken Warrior Armor: +20% hp

Forsaken Warrior Boots: +5%hp +10% matk +10% dmg to demi humans

Forsaken Warrior Shield: Reduce demi-human dmg by 28%

Forsaken Warrior Cloak: -2% def -8% neutral dmg

Full Set Bonus: +3 all stats 50% immune to Freeze +30% more damage to boss type monsters.

These are all kinda just off the top of my head... of course we could also do individual weapons per class for rent for zeny... I think these would be useful to those who are newer or poorer ingame and don't have elite/fking equipment yet.

Agreed.

Making it slotted would kill the eco but having ti give certain things like + stats and + % damage would be really good.

Ofcourse it would have to be expensive kinda.

Maybe something where u can mix and match like you are given 1 choice maybe either select a Tao effect or a Ghostring effect?

[veg]

i kinda agree with Xtopher idea..

maybe we can have lvling npc for example; 10 lvl : 10m-50m or any value.. max lvl : 800m just an example.. since some people gets hard time in leeching and lvling specially to the new palyers, where they need to pay 5 dqs for it or soome giving it for free..

i also suggest a forsaken bank, to store our gears for few hours or days, the procedure is by paying with zenny (dpending how long we want to store the gears) to the npc for few million of zenny and we choose how many hours or day and insert the items we want to store, after that the npc giving a 4 number pin. Then when we want to take it back just go to the bank and enter the pin.. If the person wants to take it earlier b4 the times end the bank require some amount of zenny, maybe it's kind of complicated but i just put what i have in mind..

and thats all

[Guest xonchu]

agree with xtopher but not with all the equipments.

[Phenomenon]

I think everyone has taken my initial suggestions too seriously. What I suggested about monsters helping you level or paying to be buffed were just examples. I'm looking for additional input on how zeny could be used as a viable means of economy by making it useful. This could also include quests requiring large amounts of zeny (1 billion+) or having the option to use zeny instead of coupons at the equipment renter (40m equivalent to 1 donation coupon, or ?)Of course these are just EXAMPLES. I'd like additional input on other ways zeny could be used.

A buffer npc doesn't seem like a bad idea actually, but it would have to charge you for it's services and it would only give you like, lets say level 10 blessing and level 10 agility up, nothing more. I'm just throwing these ideas for the use of zeny out there, anybody else have any ideas/comments?

[Phenomenon]

Updated my first post with a more clear and defined suggestion!! It's the part under the long line of "@@@@@@@@".

[Phenomenon]

.B.U.M.P. C'mon!

[Veracity]

I think the "Definite Suggestion #1" is a great idea and would help a lot. We will definitely try to incorporate these ideas into future quests. Thank you for your suggestion!

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