New Sinx Weapon

[Rvnender]

I noticed there is no Katar's available for donation. I personally like Katars more then daggers. So I was thinking about this one, and figured what the hell, should just suggest it.

Name: Suwaiya

Property: Neutral

lvl: (Don't know the level requirement for donation items)

Weapon level: 4

Attack: 250

Slots: 4

Stats: +30 agi, +20 str, +15 luck +20% Critical damage +10% critical rating

Effects: 5% chance of causing "external bleeding" status on all enemies within a 5 x 5 cell, while attacking small chance of casting Sonic Blow, attack speed +5% <indestructible, except on upgrade attempts>

You can use the sprite of a better looking katar, maybe the Brave Carnage Katar or something different like the Chakram.

I figured this would be a nice change of pace for SinX's, and something I would personally donate for for my SinX.

Comments?

[maxlittle007]

The stats you have suggested looks fine.But not for the indestructible part,coz that ll make ppl abuse that weapon.

Well the major question is.

Is it two handed or one handed?[this is an important and problematic question]

[Miracle]

The indestructible part is the abusable part? Aren't all donation/elite weapons indestructible anyways?

I disagree with the stats which you have given for a possible donation SinX Katar weapon. It does not really improve or do anything for an Assassin Crosses main problem when wielding a Katar, long-term survival. Keep everything as it is in this suggestion, and add a demi human reduction rate of 15% to 20%, which is still VASTLY out classed by a shield with an Usakoring Card.

Btw, No, Katars should never be 1 Handed, ever. Assassin Cross is basically the most over-powered class in most of RO servers, they could use a boost to improve them in some aspects to keep in line with balance, but creating a 1 Hand Katar would be giving too much to a class that already has quite a lot going for them.

[maxlittle007]

The indestructible part is the abusable part? Aren't all donation/elite weapons indestructible anyways?

I meant indestructible as in break.Like weapon cannot break with whitesmith card or tarot.

Or does it have any other meaning ?

And yes i also disagree with a one handed katar

[Miracle]

All elite/donation weapons are indestrucible, meaning tarot/whitesmith card/etc can't break them.

[Miku]

There should be a donation katar installed that I agree on. But the stats can use an over haul. I've been reading through the forums constantly since I became a gm and from what I've seen a lot of people do not like the idea of a new katar being one handed but are up for a new katar being added.

The problem with adding a new katar Is soul link. Most all sonic blow sinxs go and soul link to get the damage bonus. So we have to find a proper balance that will make people happy make them not complain about asura killing them and etc. Why they complain about asura killing them and having higher damage taken I don't know, they put out mass damage super fast so its a decision to go sonic blow.

The topic on a new katar is kind of taboo.

[Rayray]

^

people just doesn't want a strong and versatile class become stronger. but I do agree that all a katar wielding sinx would need as a little reducts rather than a booming atk bonus.

[Primo]

the thing is it being one handed isnt because we dont the sinx to be more powerful

yeah stalker bow was changed to 1 handed because it needed it to be 1 handed

But Sb does not need to be 1 handed. Who uses katar for damage and not sb?

Sb does super damage and it being 1 handed would throw things off.

ever skill has its flaws sb is u cant wear a shield you give up the power to defend yourself for the power to Kill if you can spam it good.

Just like Lk Frenzy u give up the chance to ygg in order to deal higher damage.

So u can give the Katar stat + but not 1 handed

[Adamxd]

Nah, one handed plz. Bows shouldnt be one handed, come on shield+ reducts+ extremly high Range damage. Sinx Has to come closer to hit. If you want have it in fair way, one handed plz.

[bankai`]

I agree on giving some reductions on these new weapon, because it's already hard enough to spam your sb, better yet focusing on healing also it's like trying to look right and left at the same time. So here is what I like to see :).

+20 str

8% more dmg on Demi human

20% less dmg from Demi human

10% maximum hp

[Rvnender]

I am at work right now, so I can't really get balls deep into this but I do want to say one thing.

I don't agree with adding a demi human damage reduction then an increase damage on demi humans and then a health increase. No, I think mahbe one if the 3 but not all of them.

[Primo]

bows where changed to 1 handed because the bows wherent even that good.

Be fore the patch the only good sniper player was like Kuoch and even then hardly anyone played sniper

For stalker the reduct is a tittle intense but its getting fixed.

Why make the mistake of adding reduction a second time?

Maybe a little but if it has a little reduction then keep it 1 handed

[Miracle]

Arguing that a donation Katar should be one-handed because donation Bows were made one-handed is not a valid argument.

Damage can still be reduced and certainly the Sniper class can still be killed. Not to mention their damage can be completely nulled by pneuma, and it will be very hard to push their enemy out of it if they are wearing RSX, and even then it's a matter of changing to Immaterial arrows and launching a well aimed Skid Trap.

No, SinX does not a Katar which enables them to retain 55% Demi-Human reductions. Their evasion skills cannot compare and their offensive skills can CERTAINLY not compare. While it is true that Sniper's deal nice damage with Focus Arrow Strike and Double Strife, if ganged or against a formidable enemy, they'll still have a hard time killing them, and avoiding being targeted by multiple people at once. The Assassin Cross can easily backslide to avoid conflict until they have the opportunity to get an enemy by themselves, and apply Sonic Blow to them, which is spammable and HURTS. Though I think Sonic Blow damage needs a boost when not being linked, as it can be reduced greatly, enabling them to wear a shield is unnecessary due to it's already high versatility in PvP of being able to avoid fights they can't win and waiting to be an opportunist.

I say improve damage by a small amount and add a demi-human reduction to about half or less of what a shield with Usakoring+Forsaken Shield provides (20-25%). Maybe add an additional 25% reduction to magic damage since that would still be a big threat, but no more and less reductions could certainly be acceptable, but I say at least 15% reduction from all Demi-Human damage would be acceptable.

[Primo]

agreed 15% is nice

[bankai`]

Sounds like my weapon suggestion ^

Edited October 10, 2010 by bankai`

[Primo]

but not 1 handed maybe even 10% cause every skill has its flaws

[Halion]

i suggested this b4

if the delay of the sonic blow goes back to 3 kiel = 5 sonics then no one will be asking for a new katar thats for sure, because u can use belts instead of using gay experts + link, i know u can still do good dmg but getting pwned by bolts sucks

this new katar seems ok for me

Name: Super Pro Katar

Two Handed Weapon

Attack: 200

Effects:

+15dex

+15agi

+15% something whatever u like hp/redux/nothing

inmunity to stone curse <<<< this is what sonic blow sinxs want >:( or atleast make the delay go back to 3 kiel = 5 sonics :)

there the problem is solved no need of shield

Edited October 10, 2010 by Halion

[Forum~]

If a Donation Katar is added, a Donation Guitar should be added as well.

Anyways, Sinxes should be able to use shield with katar, like snipers can with bow DUH. I still don't see why not. Bow classes are getting pretty OP. But that's just me.

[Halion]

i agree with you bobo but this ppl don't like the idea of 1h katar, so im now suggesting a katar with redux and and inmunity to stone, that way no need of shield :p

trust me

a new clown guitar should be added indeed :D

[Miku]

Stay on topic. If you want to discuss a new clown weapon or comparison of why katar should be one handed because soaring birds are one handed, go make your own topic.

This is about a New Sinx Weapon.

[nines]

If a Donation Katar is added, a Donation Guitar should be added as well.

Anyways, Sinxes should be able to use shield with katar, like snipers can with bow DUH. I still don't see why not. Bow classes are getting pretty OP. But that's just me.

Jet....The amount of dps put out by a sonic blow goes past what asura can do -.- stone curse is the only chance you got vs them plus most of the time if you use a pupetring card you'll die before the sonic blow finishes.

Peter...quite trying to spoil ur self. Your class is more balanced than any other class and is cheap as hell as it is. Oh no bow shouldn't be one handed....well yah its a bow its meant to be 2 handed but the fact is snipers fuckin sucked and had no other purpose without having a shield and did little to no damage vs players. While a clown has a shield can spam a skill that does mass damage in a few seconds, can tarot people strip super easy....Wow basically its a sinx with one hand with lvl 2 edp -.-

now all of u stfu with the other class weapons god ur all acting like a bunch of babies.

[Rvnender]

^ I like him\her. You're kinda like me, you just say whatever you want. I respect that.

[Primo]

Nines congrats

You bassicaly fucked up his post. :]

but srsly remember KATAR is not the MAIN WEP of a sinx

The dagger is

Just like The Clown BOW is not the main the GUITAR is

Sinx Has its Flaws just like every other class. And Sb flaw is Low reduct stone curse.

its YOUR CHOICE you base your setup based on what you think u need.

Every class has its flaws u have to deal with it sure a little reducts wont hurt but asking for a shield which means 55%? hell no.

And it seems like the people agree to op weps are the ones who play a certain class and qq about having a harder time winning.

AND HI MIRACLE i see u reading this

[Rvnender]

Dagger's are not the main weapon for a SinX... It really depends on build.

[nines]

In this server daggers are the main build, Sonic Blow is just something to do if ur bored or what ever, or if your rich enough do do daggers and sonic blow lol.