bankai` Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 Yes clowns need a REAl weapon suited to there class not a bow. Someone will say they don't need it they're already strong as is. Champions got a new weapon when they didn't need it so why not for clowns and this weapon is mainly for survivability which they need. Valkyrie soaring guitar: 5% more dmg on Demi-human -20% vit defense 15% more hp 5% less damage from Demi-human +25 dex +20 vit
Primo Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 Dissagree. The weps where made to give some color to the classes. Sinx made into a crit sinx and or magic sinx. Lk just to increase the Spiral damage which is kinda op Clown overall is the best class spamable and high damage if played right.
jorgesilvera Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 they don't need it they're already strong as is. I disagree. @Primo Lk is't op but that is other sopic
Veracity Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 In my opinion, this wouldn't work well. Yes, we added a champion weapon, but there was a very minimal increase compared to the rental. What you're suggesting is as if clowns are underpowered, which isn't the case at all.
bankai` Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) Well if this is to much then give clown atleast something like what we did for champions because it isn't fair to leave them out and again I don't consider soaring bird as a weapon for clown cause it doesn't benefit anything. Maybe identical effects just dex and vit added or dex and Agi Edited September 30, 2010 by bankai`
Veracity Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 I understand that the Soaring Bird for clowns isn't particularly useful. Because it's a bow it doesn't allow for clowns to use AV which is their primary offensive skill. We had the sprite for the class however and wanted to release it anyways, in hopes even a few people would use it and not just spam AV/tarot. We will (most likely) release donation weapons for clowns/gypsies in the future, but it would be minimal increases like on the champion weapon. We're always open for more input though as long as it's specific and with explanation. (:
supream Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 the clown soaring bird is like sprite edit tarot spam. seems like a weapon you would use for a fast tarot then switch to av weapon.
bankai` Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Posted September 30, 2010 Fine with me With me just wanted atleast something for them
Guest xonchu Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 the skill tarot made clowns good enough. and yeah maybe place a soaring clown guitar or whatever is that, nobody uses that clown bow.
HealHard Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 I believe that the Guitar will be released anyway, but not so soon. Not only because the clowns need no buffs, but also due to future possible investments for server from players. So if the flow of donations will decrease, they will release this OPed weapon (mauybe not so OPed but better then fguitar alot). So, i think you should not suggest it. It will be released and be happy that its not needed atm cus after that it will be server of LKs Clowns and Redux Stalkers.
Poringly Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) Edit : Uhh, Well, Nvm what i just said before. I just hope the New Clown Wep would be nice. :3 Edited September 30, 2010 by Poringly
bankai` Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) I'm pretty sure clowns will come out soon. Just give suggestion of effects on clown you think need and Gm's will take it into consideration as said before and healhard how is my suggestion OP? It's nothing compared to other valk weapons except for champion dorcus and besides it doesn't add much damage but alittle more survivability side. Edited September 30, 2010 by bankai`
Guest xonchu Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 i just hate the way they made clown = bow type for new weaps...
Veracity Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 We were working with what we had. There were only certain weapon sprites available at the time. We wouldn't release all of the weapons at the same time either... it's a lot of work. Just try to be patient. Also, read the new suggestion guidelines (it includes rules on posting in the suggestion forum as well). Discussing the LK weapon here isn't on topic at all. We know there are issues with weapons, please stop saying how "OP" they are.
Guest xonchu Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 okay ima wait :o it should would just give a small enhancement to clowns...
Veracity Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 okay ima wait :o it should would just give a small enhancement to clowns... Yeah we wouldn't do anything drastic since clowns are fine as they are now. It would just be a little better. Ya'll can feel free to post suggestions for what you would like its effects to be. (:
Adamxd Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 I totally disagree, clown IMO is really strong with f guitar.
Guest xonchu Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) and would even somebody use a bow on a clown? >.< well u cant play songs or AV on it... if ur giong bow better go sniper, btw they implemented bow on clown. Edited September 30, 2010 by xonchu
Rayray Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 disagree. we boost weaker classes or add something new to the others so that we could stop being the boring one-build-fits-all. the bow is actually good if you know how and when to use it.
Guest xonchu Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 which is better bow type clown or bow type sniper? too many cons on a clown using bow. would u even have fun when ur obvioulsy a bow-type-weaker-clown-than-the-sniper.
Forum~ Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) the bow is actually good if you know how and when to use it. Like one player in the server has the bow. How can you even use this argument? My suggestion for a Clown Soaring Guitar: Name: Clown/Gypsy Instrument : Stradivari Violin/Harp 200 Attack Weight 75 Weapon Level 3 Required Level 255 +25 Dexterity/+25 Agility/+10 Intelligence Enable use of level 3 Jupitel Thunder 25% more damage with Arrow Vulcan and Melody Strike Maximum HP/SP +10% Indestructible 4-slots Something along these lines. EDIT: Compared to Forsaken Clown Guitar 142 Attack Weight 90 Weapon Level 3 Required Level 255 +8 Dexterity/+8 Intelligence Enable use of level 3 Jupitel Thunder Indestructible 4-slots Edited October 4, 2010 by Forum~
xBiscuit Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Like one player in the server has the bow. How can you even use this argument? My suggestion for a Clown Soaring Guitar: Name: Clown/Gypsy Instrument : Stradivari Violin/Harp 200 Attack Weight 75 Weapon Level 3 Required Level 255 +25 Dexterity/+25 Agility/+10 Intelligence Enable use of level 3 Jupitel Thunder 25% more damage with Arrow Vulcan and Melody Strike Maximum HP/SP +10% Indestructible 4-slots Something along these lines. EDIT: Compared to Forsaken Clown Guitar 142 Attack Weight 90 Weapon Level 3 Required Level 255 +8 Dexterity/+8 Intelligence Enable use of level 3 Jupitel Thunder Indestructible 4-slots The hell. you wanna give the class with an hp boost more hp?! champs didn't get shit on their weapon, imo. you guys are adding on shit that doesn't need to be added on. this class DOES NOT need a valkyrie blessing. instead of trying to make things " balanced ", you guys should try playing all classes. Edited October 4, 2010 by xBiscuit
Miracle Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 I whole-heartedly disagree with this suggestion. Clowns are fine offensively as it is. Tarot debilitates players by breaking their equipment, casting coma on the enemy, dispelling their buffs, and cutting the enemies attack by 10% or up to 50%. This is off-set by their mediocre, but still decent damage. They don't need to be dealing more damage, and we should balance out the classes by helping those that need help, not by nerfing the classes that are fine the way they are, and certainly not by making them more powerful. I do agree that Clowns might need a little more HP, but that can be easily done by modifying Tao Gunka's effect.
bankai` Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Posted October 4, 2010 I agree with forums but tweak it down alittle
Veracity Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) If there is going to be new weapons released for clown/gypsy in the future, as I have said previously: Yeah we wouldn't do anything drastic since clowns are fine as they are now. It would just be a little better. It would be a very small adjustment, similar to the Champion Dorcus. Thank you for your suggestion though! We'll keep everyone's feedback here in mind if/when we develop effects for the weapon in the future. - Rejected - Edited January 6, 2011 by Veracity