Shadi Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 Just because class x can't kill class y doesn't mean it is unbalance,d that is why there are different classes to combat other classes. I completely agree with this, hence why I think it's quite rediculous that one class got such a powerboost that it can beat any other class and basically got immortal. Obviously I'm talking about the Stalker class. Deleting the weapons obviously was a troll post so I won't comment on that, even though of course I understand it was done to fund the server. if you believe certain classes are underpowered that is what the suggestion forum is for, we'd love to hear from you there. My suggestion topic has been open for 4 months and still didn't get an decision, Neither did anyone look at it while creating the new weapons, while obviously the wizard/proffessor suggestions did get looked at. Several days ago I also added several suggestions towards the donation weapon. No responses yet.
Adamxd Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 Ridiculous is 1h bow for snipers. 1h bow come on robin hood shooting with 1h bow have u seen that? he keeps arrows in teeth?
Barbie Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 This game isn't based on reality though or there would not be monsters, mage classes, etc... What does that have to do with reduction equipment ?
Adamxd Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 That you can put shield with usakoring and have powerful range ataks.
Forum~ Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 That you can put shield with usakoring and have powerful range ataks. Yah, what he said. Mm, stalker reductionz... quite lovely hitting 100s heh.
kuoch Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 Reduct was already annoying from the start. I still wish it didn't exist here. u___u. Oh well, I learned to just deal with it.
Genesis Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 My suggestion topic has been open for 4 months and still didn't get an decision, Neither did anyone look at it while creating the new weapons, while obviously the wizard/proffessor suggestions did get looked at. Several days ago I also added several suggestions towards the donation weapon. No responses yet. We don't have time to look at every suggestion right after it is posted (there is a backlog), a suggestion that was done 4 months ago most likely won't apply now since items are released and people discover different builds daily. There are other suggestions in front of yours, we can't just skip through everyone's opinion and go with yours. Unfortunately, a single player does not symbolize the voice of the entire community, if it did then updates would please everyone and be a hell of a lot easier. :cap: From my understanding, if Stalkers go full reductions they cannot do much damage, to my understanding it is just annoying. Regardless, I'll add some more checks once I have time. I just wish the people that were saying how unbalanced and unjust the new weapons were would invest that time in actual suggestions. =\ @Adamxd I guess the snipers pull off some Rambo move and one-hand the bow or something. Maybe they ave the shield attacked to their forearm and use it when they need to, like in 300. xP
Shadi Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 We don't have time to look at every suggestion right after it is posted (there is a backlog), a suggestion that was done 4 months ago most likely won't apply now since items are released and people discover different builds daily. There are other suggestions in front of yours, we can't just skip through everyone's opinion and go with yours. Unfortunately, a single player does not symbolize the voice of the entire community, if it did then updates would please everyone and be a hell of a lot easier. cap.gif Other people post their opinions in my topic for a reason, not to be skipped. 90% of the people that posted in my topic agreed with my suggestions and gave alternatives. The community agreed with the alternatives as far as our forum community goes. It's not only my voice that symbolizes the community but as you have seen in this topic and in my suggestion topic. it's the hordes of forum people that symbolize the voice of the entire community. I don't see how 110 replies in one suggestion topic can be compared to a single player symbolizing the entire community. Also, the situation for Whitesmiths has not really changed comparing 4 months ago till now. If it has changed it has only gotten worse for them.. so the suggestions from 4 months ago are still compatible. From my understanding, if Stalkers go full reductions they cannot do much damage, to my understanding it is just annoying. Regardless, I'll add some more checks once I have time. Well since this weapon is a bow, all stalkers would need is dex to gain massive attack, instead of (with dagger or sword) they'd need dex and str. Bow weapons also get easier attack boosts through dexterity compared to daggers and swords can get through strength. Also the stats on the bow and the damage adds on the weapon already give decent damage. + santa poring is used for reductions as it adds damage at the same time as well. I just wish the people that were saying how unbalanced and unjust the new weapons were would invest that time in actual suggestions. =\ Plenty of suggestions have been made about the weapons the community disagrees with. In my case I've responded to the stalker weapon change suggestions and I've made my own suggestions for the whitesmith weapon in my whitesmith topic. So actual suggestions are actually made.
Wish Posted September 5, 2010 Report Posted September 5, 2010 Just because we don't accept a suggestion on the forum doesn't mean we don't start incorporating bits and pieces of what we read in them in updates. Some, like your whitesmith topic, have a lot of feedback, but sometimes not everything is clear-cut, so we just leave it and pick some pieces that ARE clear out of it. If you actually looked at the updates, you would see that we HAVE used some of them. However, I will spell this out: whitesmiths are not the only class in existence. Yes, we worked on stuff for them. We worked on stuff for other classes. We're always trying to improve every class. And we are looking at the weapons. We can't tweak them too drastically because people DID pay for them. We take into account the actual suggestions. Not the ones just saying OMG THEY'RE SO OP, which a lot of them are. Again, I must emphasize the fact that people tend not to give exact or clear-cut suggestions. Yet, when we do implement something that's not exactly what they wanted, they complain. I have asked over and over again that people specify what they want (stats and etc.) when they make a topic, but normally it just branches off and never actually reaches any definite conclusions. I realize that we can't do everything to every single person's liking, but it does get tiresome to listen to constant complaining on updates that we spend days of work on, and be criticized internally by people who aren't actually really sure what they're talking about, or make certain things up to discredit others on the team. P.S. Genesis was being very considerate, polite, and respectful to you. The least you could do would be to extend the same courtesy to him. - Topic closed due to going off topic and an inability to maintain a decent level of maturity -
