Angels&Demons Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Well, I've noticed that European WoE right now is more or less a battle of slow gracers and breakers. Even a strong guild can't defend against that many people going into a single castle. There's no more thrill. Are the GMs doing anything to solve this or any suggestions? Perhaps opening another castle?
nines Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Theres 2 days in euro thats all there needs -.- And those slow gracers just started copying my strat this woe -.- fckin rm, pill poppers, predicament can't be original <.< there the ones ruining the fun for u guys lol. And yes it is easy to defend its called 2x str and sinxs that don't suck lol Edited July 30, 2010 by nines
Hannah Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 FKN SLOW GRACERS, I HATE EM. :< I think they should really add another castle for Euro WoE, to make it better (kinda boring with just one castle). It will still be two days, one castle on Monday, the other on Friday. I don't see why Euro can't have another castle? American WoE has THREE. -.-''
Shono Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Or ! Reduce the castle from american woe and add one to euro woe ! 2 American castle & 2 European castle !
Ethereal Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 I don't see why Euro can't have another castle? American WoE has THREE. -.-'' I believe they said something about that. We'll probably get another castle once we get more players. And slow grace is actually fun if you're the gypsy.
Leaz Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 I believe they said something about that. We'll probably get another castle once we get more players. And slow grace is actually fun if you're the gypsy. you tell 'em gurlllfren!
Angels&Demons Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Posted July 30, 2010 There are like, 200 people going to the same castle. I think that's a lot of people for 1 castle.
Ryuk Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I agree with this (Aka getting an additional castle for EU or changing to 2-2 castles.). And I kinda laughed at nines. What tactic exactly are you talking about ? Edited July 30, 2010 by Ryuk
Perishable Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 I disagree right now until we get more people.
nines Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I started using gypsy in euro and was basically the one one doing it and before when they did slow grace euro they just stood on the warp and etc. Now I've been running the whole castle to keep em slowed and now 3 other gracers poped up from the guilds i pissed off doing the same thing. <.<. I know its been done before im not saying i was the first one to do it, they just saw it and copied <.< same with my flee sinx, prof and yada yada yada -.- P.s There were like only 18 breakers this woe....If you can't defend from that u needa learn how to focus fire. Edited July 30, 2010 by nines
Angels&Demons Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Posted July 31, 2010 Predicament had like 30 people on during WoE. And the breakers don't actually kill the defense, they just go straight to the emp and whack it. Not only does the emp can't ygg, it also can't be sanctuaried (since they nerfed sanctuary). If a guild would defend it against let's say, half of the people going to Repherion (assuming there's another castle) it would be more fun for the defenders to be able to hold against attacks, as well as the breakers who would have more of a challenge breaking the castle.
Perishable Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 Predicament had like 30 people on during WoE. And the breakers don't actually kill the defense, they just go straight to the emp and whack it. Not only does the emp can't ygg, it also can't be sanctuaried (since they nerfed sanctuary). If a guild would defend it against let's say, half of the people going to Repherion (assuming there's another castle) it would be more fun for the defenders to be able to hold against attacks, as well as the breakers who would have more of a challenge breaking the castle. We didn't nerf Sanctuary. When we had updates a few months ago, it came with it. The server have nothing to do with sanctuary but I do agree that we are in need of sanctuary with higher heals than 777 nowadays.
Rayray Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 well copying tactics and builds is part of the game, i don't think anybody can say that they got a super duper unique build/strategy that only they could do anyway.
Renegade Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 Moved to the suggestion thread. Remember to focus discussion on European WoE and how to improve it.
Angels&Demons Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Posted August 1, 2010 How about making US WoE 2 castles and move the other castle to European WoE. It would be more exciting for the defense of both Predicament and Influence if there were people constantly attacking rather than glimpses of an attack. And with 2 castles, there's the possibility of forming an alliance with other guilds, making WoE as exciting as it used to be. Like remember those times when people were hell bent on breaking Transcesion, Royal Mafia, Influence and Destiny castles? Those were the times..
maxlittle007 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 Why cant slow grace be nerfed like giving it a skill delay of 2 mins or so? its better than adding another castle.
Angels&Demons Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Posted August 1, 2010 It's not really adding another castle, just transferring one from American WoE to European WoE. And almost all guilds have slow gracers, if not all. And European WoE is like who has the fastest loading time wins.
Adum* Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 why is it that out of nowhere predicament became a threat? anyway...they had those kind of suggestions already. 2-2 castle and whatnot. im just saying this sort of thing has been discussed before. im not certain if they accepted it or rejected.
maxlittle007 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 Every guild have their own strategy of breaking the emp and defending the castle.Blaming them for their clever performance isnt a right thing to do.We cannot blame champs for using asura or sinx for using edp because every job classes are specialized with thier own skills,Same way slow grace is a gypsy skill so they use it.When another castle is added ,do you think gypsies are gonna stop slow gracing?no not all they are gonna use slow grace no matter how many castles are added. But still slow gracing every second seems a bit uncomfortable since pallys are the ones who can counter it with gospel. i think gypsies should have 2 mins skill delay after using it once,that would be fair.
Angels&Demons Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Posted August 1, 2010 I'm not suggesting that they not use the skill. I'm saying that it'll be more fun for both the defense and the offense if not that many people go for the single castle available. The last time I experienced a guild that was able to defend Geffen for more than 2 minutes was Loli Kingdom, when they had the Guild Hideout buffs during the last few minutes of Euro WoE. And now, even Predicament can't even hold it for more than 2 minutes. Takes the fun away from WoE.
Perishable Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 Happens in every castle. No one can't defend nowadays. History of RO; Transcension is the first guild to hold 100 economy for the longest in ForsakenRO history.
Angels&Demons Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Posted August 1, 2010 Is Royal Mafia the only other guild to hold a 100 economy castle? Anyways, if they put 2-2 castle for American and European WoE, this might inspire guilds to merge / ally with each other making the defense more formidable and less likely to be broken every 2 minutes. But ofcourse, the sanctuary heal to the emp should be fixed or brought back to it's previous state.
supream Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) yeah som that was until treadstone came and blew it away. no its not influ has held it for a long time before. so has legion and equilibrium(i think). i also think the euro woe days are to close together. if u win monday u get castle drops for 4 days while if you win friday you get it for 3 days. maybe if euro woe was thursday. Edited August 1, 2010 by supream
n i k k o Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 2-2 castles wouldnt make guild merge. It would just give euro 1 more castle to go for it. and Defending is easy if you know what your suppose to be doing.
