Prof Book Part 2.0 <.<

[nines]

I saw a suggestion for lvl 10 weight limit increase on prof book and was like....ok...Kinda uneeded but ok guess itll be kool.

What I think the book needs is Stave Crasher lvl 1 on it instead. Profs have no way to fight back against gtb, aside from strip but u can just fcp and then ur screwed u can try to melee but 1.6k dmg at 195 aspd and them doing mass dmg u loose. and atleast a wizard has a chance to fight back deal 8k dmg and be able to spam it.

<.< I prefer this suggestion over the weight limit...if you can stack em thatd be kool to tho. Itd also make the class more interesting to play try to go stave user instead of bolts.

[supream]

sounds like you just need to use a wiz.

[bankai`]

lmao even if they were given that skill on the book i doubt it would be useful

[rinrin]

I think it would be very useful to have this on the book. It would be a nice alternate weapon. They would have to give up their level 10 enlarge weight limit to be able to use the book.

[bankai`]

Well I tested this build before fully geared the most I did was 9-11k and it miss like 40% of the time.

[nines]

Thats just proving the point that its not op lol. Even misssing 40% of the time and doing 9k dmg is better than a 0% chance to do nothing cause of gtb. its some dmg better than nothing ^^

[Dudu]

As a Proffesor myself i have to agree with this.

We dont have ANY way to battle against Gtb+Fcp Guys...So adding this it will change a little bit the PvP on the server and its not OP so yeah ;3

[bankai`]

Lol I know it's not op but since everyone want it so bad I'll agree too

[Drax]

i agree also :3

[veg]

agree..

[nines]

I do the bumpy bumpy party

[Xtopher]

I'm going to be that troll that says if you want physical damage you could use like marine sphere card or ifrit rings.

I'm just kidding, I see no harm in this suggestion... agreed!

[Ryuk]

I disagree, Next thing we'll know high wizards will start suggesting to get wall of fog. Wizards are based on offense, professors on defence/debuff. If you want to be the damage dealer then play a wizard if you want to be a survivalist then play professor.

[nines]

I disagree, Next thing we'll know high wizards will start suggesting to get wall of fog. Wizards are based on offense, professors on defence/debuff. If you want to be the damage dealer then play a wizard if you want to be a survivalist then play professor.

Wait wait...you think profs are a support class? We have some support skills but apparently you have never seen me in gvg....the reason people wear gtb all the time is because of me as a prof if they don't they die in a heartbeat. Its not that fact that I want to be a damage dealer its the fact that we have no fall back skill on Gtb the main counter on us.

Im going give you a list of classes with there weaknesses and strong points.

Sinx- has melee dmg only thing to stop them is elemental cloacks - armors and you can change element easy.

Champion- only way to reduce asura is from rays - devs (if you put devs you can go and toss them with element decrease agi blah blah)

Stalker- Full chemical protection is there loss but then again they can copy any skill they want and have many class specs they can go with)

Priest- IS A SUPPORT CLASS like you are talking about has holy light and its only good if your linked, they to have nothing against gtb but there a true support class if you go battle priest you can use a book.

Wizard- They have good Aoe skills for crowd controll and jupital thunder to knock people back from them. In all games this class is looked at as the support class. And even the support class has a chance to deal 11k dmg to people with gtbs on, if there not retards.

Professor- Have double bolt, delunge/volcano/whirlwind to increase our bolt damage, can spam really fast, can deal great amount of damage, can put elements on party members, have fiber lock. If person is gtbed we are instantly boned, and you can say you can strip but they always get a fcp...always. (This is an offensive class)

Sniper- great for trapping and have good range damage, they are a support class(unless they have thana) and get owned by pneuma.

Clown/Gypsy- ....they have no weakness really <.< they have jupital thunder on there guitar / whip so they can knock people out of pneuma and have tarot card to fall back onto, also have massive amounts of dex so they can strip you like a mother fucker.

Ninja- They got a bunch of pussy skills to avoid getting hit, if they are a magic user they to are instantly owned they have there shurikens yes but if ur magic the damage will suck. Final strike.....Pneuma is the weakness but they have crimson fire/tatami to knock them out of pneuma and can spam it like a mother fucker and kill fast.

Taekwon- Only good with thana/Got a lot of hp

Star Gladiator-Eh harder class to use got nothing on em since no one uses em <.<

NOW TO THE POINT OF LISTING THESE

the only classes that can get fully countered in any instance is a Professor and a Priest. Priest is a true support class so there usually only there for lexing and assumptio. Professor is a killer class and once gtbed you are useless, aside from standing on the side and making sure they have gtb but that only works in gangs.

UNBALANCED ON THIS CLASS NEEDS A CHANCE SINCE GTB IS EVERYWHERE ON THIS SERVER. U DUN LIKE GTB NERF CAUSE OF DISPEL THIS IS THE ONLY WAY AROUND IT BY BEING NON OP AND FAIR.

[Dudu]

So mother***********ing true, I dont get why people says We are "Support Class". If you guys QQ about a fkin Gtb nerf, then make proffesors be able to "battle" against a gtb users >_>

[Rayray]

Profs are originally a support/offense class, not pure support but not pure offense either. Since this is a high rate, they became inclined more to the offense type. I do not see any harm on putting this except on what Ryuk said.(people would soon wanting skills that aren't originally theirs to begin with). Stave Crasher would only be useful with a Thanatos. Using incant and such with it, I doubt you would kill anybody with it. Only a few got Thanatos card, which means that if this suggestion went through, it will only help a handful of people, not the whole community who uses profs. So I disagree, since it would only help those who are strong already, not the whole lot of prof users. I'd rather have the increase weight limit.

[nines]

No prof player that i know of which is just about all of them has a thana...so u fail on that point, incan and etc does help obviously you havn't tryed it and as i said any chance to do some damage is better than 0% chance and just becoming useless. Like you said this is a high rate server, the GTB card was considered to be the rarest card on iro for just that reason it is beyond over powered. Almost all high rate servers have there flaws but most servers don't have gtbs floating on every player and if they do there atleast nerfd.

And as i stated in my other post all the other classes are balanced for there purposes, and have skills to support them aside from priest. No other class should demand a skill unless there just greedy little ass fuck dumbasses.

Edited June 25, 2010 by nines

[Rayray]

And as i stated in my other post all the other classes are balanced for there purposes, and have skills to support them aside from priest. No other class should demand a skill unless there just greedy little ass fuck dumbasses.

Then do not demand a skill then, unless you want to become a greedy little ass fuck dumbass. FCP counters profs strip, but that same skill makes stalkers and whitesmiths more useless then profs so I do not see why you are saying the other classes are balanced. Please read my reply thoroughly. I said I DO NOT SEE ANY HARM ON THIS SUGGESTION EXCEPT ON WHAT RYUK SAID(in case it is hard for you to read) I DISAGREE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HELP EVERY PROF USER, IT WILL ONLY HELP THOSE WHO GOT ENOUGH ITEMS AND CARDS TO BEGIN WITH,THUS MAKING OTHER PEOPLE STRONGER, BUT NOT MAKING THE PROF CLASS STRONGER AS A WHOLE.

Just because you do not know someone who uses prof that has thana doesn't mean other profs doesn't have thana. so you fail at that point. I tried it with a wizard since I main wizard 2 years ago. Incant wouldn't help much regarding damage, putting agi for aspd which is needed to spam Stave is not efficient when only using incant since you lose a lot of stat points you could be putting somewhere else. 9k-11k damage on stave wouldn't help much. it will damage, yea but that is as far as it goes. they could approve it, it would help my prof, but I still rather have the weight increase for some reasons. and on this suggestion, I personally would want it to be on the staff and not the book.

To be honest, wizards are more underpowered than profs. profs has the ability to kill a someone before he can slap on his GTB, something no wizard could do with his spells. that alone makes me think twice on the need for profs to get stave crasher. besides that, profs got dispell, wall of fog and safety wall, while wiz can only use safety wall as a defensive spell.

On a 1v1 situation, magic classes are useless with GTB, I agree on that. but on other things like GvG, profs can do well in it, while wizards do less.

[nines]

-sigh- im not gonna argue with you, your only looking at situations you know which is obviously not a lot <.<. theres people can do 30k with stave crasher as wizards and it would be boosted on professors also because we can element our selfs then use our ground skills to increase damage 25%. which does make the class more balanced. I know profs are over powered in some ways yes but a simple cure all to that is retarded <.<. And no....

Profs are only good for 2 things in GvG btw, making people put gtb on, and killing the idiots who think because there devod there godly and don't need gtb. I know this because im the one that made profs a thing to be afraid of majorly in pvp and hugely in gvg <.<

[Rayray]

and you are only looking at the situations that would HELP YOU and not the community. what you said on profs was exactly what I had in mind when you made the suggestion. Profs could change elements and such which makes it NOT balanced for wizards since wizards cannot do all those(unless you count BoS but then profs got ground skills). You are a great prof. But sorry I have to disagree on you saying that you made the profs a "thing" in GvG. That is way Egotistic of you. You are still far behind the profs I met here ages ago. Those profs who didn't need to resort to suggesting a skill that would only help themselves.

[nines]

How would it only help me you've got other profs suggesting it to. And yes i am very very cocky but thats because i can back my cockyness up :). And you know turning an arguement around and bringing up a point again that you already said isn't an argument. And HAH old profs lol only good old prof was kuku'

[Rayray]

You are the one who said you aren't gonna argue anymore :) I didn't say there is no argument. lrn2read

You joined the server when? I am here since 2007 so I think you would have never met the profs I am talking about :)

Still, having stave crasher when profs can change elements and amplify its damage by 25% because of ground skills is unfair to the ones you are going to get the skill from, the wizards. With what you are saying, I see a lot more reason to buff up wizards, rather than buff up professors.

[Ethereal]

Hey, hey. Let's not get too fiesty now, shall we? I know the debate is getting a little hot, but try to calm it down a little. I don't want any flame wars starting.

Anyways after reading the topic and the posts, my mind is kind of undecided on the whole matter. On one side, I do feel like they would need it to help them improve in certain battle cases. But on the other side, I feel like they're "fine" already. I think they're only just missing the level 10 enlarge weight limit for the book so that they could have a better chance at melee. (That's already been accepted, so we only have to wait soon™ for it to be implemented.)

[Rayray]

Don't worry though, I do not flame people on their opinions. But I do enjoy a good exchange of arguments that is why I post :p

[nines]

I flame but im having a logical argument right now