Av Spam

[Apo]

It is actualy, especially if you're caught with no FCP

Edited June 15, 2010 by Apo

[supream]

i wouldnt think that breaking with tarrot was its only perk. or did u mean to say without.

Edited June 15, 2010 by supream

[Apo]

It's one of its devasting abilities

[kuoch]

I play with a ping of 150 at best; since my PC is terrible. But I play every class fine. But eh clowns there is a few things I don't like about them but I won't point it out. But they have their flaws.

[Forum~]

I want this change so I can easily kill them yes agree +10

Thanks for reinforcing Adamxd's argument.

Disagree. Keep it the way it is.

[~*God Of War*~]

3kiels+fsoldier+box of sunlight ownzzzz :>

[Shadi]

pally has harder to play then u think. what if u were to fight a ws, what now?

Oh ya, whitesmiths are soo hard to block ! >___>;;;

Anyway On topic : Even though clowns easily rape me I think we shouldn't be nerfing them, Instead we should be buffing the weaker classes. (In my opinion).

[Rayray]

^

I normally just use stealth on my stalker and walk around clowns just to annoy them since I cannot kill them in stalker.

Yes I agree, Clowns kill me way easier than sinx, champs or paladins kill me(since most guys I fought using those 3 classes are idiots, only a few good ones). and like Shadi pointed out, I do not think WS are hard to counter here especially they got uber low hp compared to others, and FCP counters them greatly too. To be honest, I haven't seen a GOOD paladin die to a GOOD whitesmith.

back on topic, AV spam is fine the way it is, although I have to think twice if it is tarot spam, but both can be countered so no harm done.

People should just accept that your main characters SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KILL EVERY OTHER CLASS. NOT BEING ABLE TO KILL THEM DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THEY ARE OVERPOWERED.

[Adamxd]

People should just accept that your main characters SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KILL EVERY OTHER CLASS. NOT BEING ABLE TO KILL THEM DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THEY ARE OVERPOWERED.

BUT CLOWNS ARE ABLE TO KILL EVERY CLASS AREN"T THEY?

[Apo]

If you actualy tried you'd find a way out, clowns are mostly a pain in the ass in 1 v 1, that's pretty much it.

[Rune]

It would make me content if every class in the game was like Clowns/Gypsys.

They were considered extremely underpowered and we managed to get them to a good status among the other classes who were the top.

The class got to the desired level now, doesn't need more buffs, but definitly doesn't need nerfs as well.

They are still pretty much defeatable with the right means and can also hold their own against anyone.

No questions asked.

[Rayray]

Sinx and champs can still kill every class here, and they can kill easier than a clown to be honest. with all your equips, and for how many years you are playing here, do not tell me you cannot find a way to kill clowns and gypsies. There are only a handful good clowns out there, that doesn't mean that if they could kill anybody, we nerf the class. Not all who uses clowns can kill everyone. at some point, anyone can kill anyone.

[Adamxd]

I don't claim I have problems, I'm not QQing, I just think they are Overpowered with tarot spam an AV. Champ? CLown go rays shield + gr and champ do shit. U can lower his atak using tarot and coma him. Sinx, low defence, easily to coma.

[Apo]

then dont play sinx, if a champ speed asura the clown might be able to tank the first asura but the second is subject of change depending on damage if the damage is too low then the champ can presume the clown uses deviling and switch to tss spam and so on, on the long run, the champ holds more berries than the clown.

Edited June 16, 2010 by Apo

[supream]

back before clowns had a boost their only problem was the lack in hp. being 150k at 150 vit, which made it so sins and full asura could one shot them. now having 230k hp, with them lasting longer in pvp, tarrot comes into a big effect. for me personally, i been able to kill clowns on my champ since their ygg holding isnt efficient enough (not counting in the fact of storage). they might think their tarrot can give them a win, but all i really have to do is speed asura until it lags them and they die, or if they feel like they have to spam one skill, mainly tarrot, i can just fcp gtb and penuma and tss them. since the average clown can only hold like 150yggs they dont usually last long.

[Xtopher]

Anyway On topic : Even though clowns easily rape me I think we shouldn't be nerfing them, Instead we should be buffing the weaker classes. (In my opinion).

^ Agreed.

I disagree with nerfing clowns. Everyone here has pointed out why. They're killable, just annoying.

Edited June 16, 2010 by Xtopher

[kax]

Instead we should be buffing the weaker classes. (In my opinion).

Yup.. I believe we should focus into buffing underpowered class first before getting on nerfing overpowered ones.

[~*God Of War*~]

hey what happened to the card that was suppose to come out and boost all class xD just curious, seems to me ive seen almost every class beat paladins even sinx now O.O. correct me if im wrong lol!

[Adamxd]

Pally is weak as hell but, but people are scary of them idk why, but it's different story.

[Apo]

They are more defensive/support than offensive, not all classes has to be offensive.

[» Pat]

They are more defensive/support than offensive, not all classes has to be offensive.

qft.

[supream]

on the original server rapid smiting and shield boomerang did efficient damage to pvp. also mytar killed most players. i cant figure out why rapid smiting and shield boom is so weak here yet. but back on topic av spam is fine. the main problem to me seems more of tarrot then av.

[» Pat]

What exactly is the problem with Tarot?!

a) Everyone's immune to almost all of the negative statuses due to high VIT

b) FCP protects your equiptment from breaking

c) Use a goddamn GTB shield, it's called strategy you lazy asses

&

d) The only thing you cannot prevent is your (M-)ATK being lowered by the Strength or the The Devil card (which is one of the main advantages)

ETA: Not adressing you, supream.

[supream]

i was applying it to the fact more people complain about tarrot more then av spam.

[Adamxd]

Yea use GTb and get 8k av per hit