Soop Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 I know ima catch a lot of flak from you stupid clown lovers about this but i was just in for fild and i got into it with some clown (not that i provoked it or anything) but i was on my lk and he and like 4 people started attacking me which at first is like yeah whatever i died a few times and his friends left and so anyways... clown starts attacking me and i noticed something a little strange... he was spamming a sh**ton of avs and they were all doing about 150k dmg each, which i guess with thana would be normal on my lk even tho my gear is +0 i still have a lot of vit def. So i switched to my prof who has pretty low vit def and gave it a shot, but still, 150k avs... so i figured maybe it was my armor since i use gr so i switched to my rsx (usually against clowns i see about half dmg when i take off gr) well no luck, 100k+ still, which without my tao kills me anyways. But what caught my attention was the fact that he could spam about 5 of these in a row, so even if i spammed all my berries it wouldnt do me much good unless i used the finger of god and wasted em all (btw in just one sitting i used about 100 berries on my lk, and this is in maybe 30 seconds or less, which i have never done since i dont just jam my berries away i try and only use them when i must) Anyways i guess what im trying to say is that YES CLOWNS ARE OP'ed i do NOT CARE WHAT YOU CLOWN USERS THINK i know you dont want to beleive it cause you love your clowns but really they are stronger than the champs, the sinx, and any other class i have used. For example, when i used my prof, i hit 1100 (per bolt) with 2 fbh,2 imp cards, and volcano, +15% matk with my wep. So my 11k or so dmg versus 150k dmg per hit.... Hm i wonder. If thats not enough proof, the average champ hits maybe 100k asuras on me with full redux... but they cant spam it back to back to back. So yes clowns are op'ed and its f******* bs when one clown can go into a map and not only survive a ton of people attacking them but kill everyone in a few seconds. Anyways im a little pissed that just because all these "pro" people switched from there old chars to clowns and now say that clowns arent op'ed that everyone just assumes that they are fine. and i dont wanna hear the bs about "i always used a clown" 6 months ago i rarely ever saw clowns in pvp now i cant walk in there without 5 of them attacking me. not to mention the 20 more spamming that freezing skill. And i guess to whoever that clown was.... good job at what you are doing its working out pretty dam good. :jerry:
Nadtorious Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Yeah I guess Clowns can be powerful, but with a good fighting tactic you'll kill them easy. Try experimenting with the skills of what your character got. :biggrin:
Adum* Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 I just found out how to fight clowns yesterday. xD
Rayray Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 there is a simple tactic to stop them from killing you like that. Take note, they use 3 KIELS. That is a clue on what to use on them :p
Adum* Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 stone curse! then rape them in theire frigging behinds!!!!!
jorgesilvera Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 The same with he they can use GTB and hit +100k :mad: They just chage the arrow and hit 200% elemnetal damage They are powerful, they hit me 20k (I am a paladin and use 2 Noxtorius cards) Not metion the "Tarrot" :mad2:
ramonjordan Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Well Stone curse doesn't cut it anymore most clowns have fsoldier. Clowns are easily hardest class to fight they have tarot and with dev hat + Scarf its extremely hard to kill them. Not to mention the sudden influx in Sprite editing being done. It's basically get tarot'd to death or eat five 9k av's while your hitting 5k on them.
Memory Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 You mentioned thana could be the reason why. Yet I see no mention of you using Skolls. Did you not think of that or are you someone who mains them anyways.
Adum* Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 offtopic, whats up with the sprite edit thing? i was accused of spriting cause i was spamming ds fast. im like i dont even know that..>.>
Cirrus Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Sprite editing (which is illegal) is changing their sprite to one without cast delay so they can spam indefinitely. Spamming DS doesn't need it, it's fast on its own. While Clowns & Gypsies don't have obvious weaknesses you can force them to take their anti-whatever gear and make them have no choice. It is a must though, that you pay attention to your shield and have FCP. There's still a lot of ways to "counter" them, not just as easy as most other classes.
Adum* Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 ah! thanks a lot! lol that was pretty stupid to accuse me of sprite edit. lol. anyway, clowns are really hard to beat-though those without kiels are pretty easy to beat.lol. offtopic, just a quick question, snipers have longer rang than clowns or any other class right?
Cirrus Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Yeah they do... a good one out of range can just lay waste to anyone who can't reach them. cough*longrangestrip*cough pls. :( Or at least the way it was before if it ever works at a low low chance. Still don't think it does.
Apo Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Long range strip is useles, they'll have FCP as much as you do, they shouldn't have been buffed in the first place, you can't have hp AND fiiewpower and everything else in one, instead of creating balance you make things worst.
Adum* Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 long range strip does work, it takes time though.
supream Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 offtopic, whats up with the sprite edit thing? i was accused of spriting cause i was spamming ds fast. im like i dont even know that..>.> i got accused of sprite editing with my champ when spamming tss. how dose sprite editing help with that? to my knowledge the only way to spam fast is to do what som dose. You just gotta master your hotkey and do alot of masturbation.
Veggie&Mac Posted May 31, 2010 Report Posted May 31, 2010 i hate gypsys during woe... only do stupid slow grace... is not fun!!!
Sorrow Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 *Champ RSX+GTB Pneuma+Snap+Speed Asura/Investigate Pneuma on you+TSS them with verters *LK double Skolls+double tao+Fshield of defending Charge Attack+Bowling Bashs galore Spear Boomerang Don't forget to joint beat them with every level for extra fun. *Pally double Skolls+double Tao/RSX&tao+Fshield of deaf Defending aura+speed potions+Gloria domine(watch them waste yggs for sp) Use Martyr on them when you get close. *Prof skoll&sinx+tao&rsx+Fshield of defending Energy Coat+Wall of Fog+Fiberlock+Dispell+Cold bolt/Heaven's drive spam If they GTB...warp... lol *Priest skoll&sinx+Tao&RSX+Fshield of deaf&defending. Assumptio+Pneuma+Holy light spam If they GTB you can stay in your pneuma with your GTB ocassionaly using cloaking and singing "Can't touch me!" lol If the damage is still high don't be afraid of asking a friend priest for assumptio ^^ Get FCP for a better performance in avoiding that "oh damn...i'm striped!" or "armor broke!" The astronomic damage AV does usually comes from thana users mostly, it isn't all that powerful if they don't use it, so use skolls, snow cap and the new zodiac to lower that.
Rayray Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 ^ another reason why some AV are so strong is that because of some people's negative defense. they just remove their incantation samurai weapon ..
Sorrow Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 That's a good point too! That's why sometimes double Tao isn't all that great, but for Pallys it is still very important since it boosts Martyr's atk power, although Pallys hardly have any problem with ranged fighters; Defending Aura really reduces any ranged attack by a lot. Double Skel Worker+double TG can really hurt someone with -100 on the equipment def, good to keep that in mind.
Dudu Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Dude lets put things simple A- You suck at prof. (1.1k with all that?) Come on man quit Prof B-I bet he was using thana ( So if you don't go skolls, ur done) """*Prof skoll&sinx+tao&rsx+Fshield of defending Energy Coat+Wall of Fog+Fiberlock+Dispell+Cold bolt/Heaven's drive spam If they GTB...warp... lol"""" C- ^ Sorrow, wtf u think Professors are? Quitters? Runners? Dude i want to see yourself on Prof someday or at least take a look at some of the good professors around "I consider myself a good one :3".If they go gtb, no need to run, just call a gang :3 D-If you cant deal with the enemy, join him or just fkin quit :3 Edited June 4, 2010 by Goldy
Sorrow Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 Dude lets put things simple A- You suck at prof. (1.1k with all that?) Come on man quit Prof B-I bet he was using thana ( So if you don't go skolls, ur done) """*Prof skoll&sinx+tao&rsx+Fshield of defending Energy Coat+Wall of Fog+Fiberlock+Dispell+Cold bolt/Heaven's drive spam If they GTB...warp... lol"""" C- ^ Sorrow, wtf u think Professors are? Quitters? Runners? Dude i want to see yourself on Prof someday or at least take a look at some of the good professors around "I consider myself a good one :3".If they go gtb, no need to run, just call a gang :3 D-If you cant deal with the enemy, join him or just fkin quit :3 "quit it"? that isn't exactly a good tip to a fellow caster! Come on men...from his story, it's clear that he's probably a relatively new player here, cut him some slack! xD And what professors are...hnnn...let's see...they're magic users. Magic is their role and porpouse, they're magic. If Magic becomes nothing what is to become of them then? i'm sorry, but saying "GTB lol" and sitting while your four+ friends do all the playing isn't exactly my idea of fun or exemple of game skill for that matter. Just as watching 4+ on 1 matches...unless the 1 is winning then that's quite entertaining xP! i main professor(fave class), but i rather enjoy MvPing and hunting; monsters don't use GTB O__o Playing prof VS someone with GTB+FCP is like playing soccer without a ball! Call me to PvP when professors have a fair chance on 1vs1 :3 *warps @go 25 or something*
Dudu Posted June 5, 2010 Report Posted June 5, 2010 "quit it"? that isn't exactly a good tip to a fellow caster! Come on men...from his story, it's clear that he's probably a relatively new player here, cut him some slack! xD And what professors are...hnnn...let's see...they're magic users. Magic is their role and porpouse, they're magic. If Magic becomes nothing what is to become of them then? i'm sorry, but saying "GTB lol" and sitting while your four+ friends do all the playing isn't exactly my idea of fun or exemple of game skill for that matter. Just as watching 4+ on 1 matches...unless the 1 is winning then that's quite entertaining xP! i main professor(fave class), but i rather enjoy MvPing and hunting; monsters don't use GTB O__o Playing prof VS someone with GTB+FCP is like playing soccer without a ball! Call me to PvP when professors have a fair chance on 1vs1 :3 *warps @go 25 or something* Well you just killed yourself fella, you actually MAIN a prof and you dont whats like to pvp with it? o_O If they go gtb+fcp, yeah we cant do nothing but, you can just change classes and boom problem solved Want me to pm you when that happens? Sure i will ( I think it would be everyday ) Cuz every single class atm has a chance to pvp 1vs1 with anyy classs! If not follow these instructions n__n 1- Gang 2- Gang 3- Change Class :3 Kthxbye (@go 25?)
