A Random Player Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Ok, so its a simple question, do wizards have any use in PvP or Woe? I hardly ever see them dueling anyone, nor are there that many of them compared to the other classes. Did GTB really kill them off so easily?
kuoch Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Of course, wizards are a big defense in WoE. Just spamming skills can stun lock most players. But of course if they use GTB, they could obviously get easily asura and die. So yes they are a big part in WoE. As for PvP, eh. I don't think so.
Rayray Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 ^ What Kouch said is true. To be honest, I only use my wizard in WoE( i am so bad at breaking) and 20-30k sg in woe without gtb hurts and annoys a hell lot of people
A Random Player Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Posted October 31, 2009 Yup, because after what I've heard, it looks like wizards aren't as strong as I thought they were, which is getting me thinking on what my new main character should be?
.Sushi. Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Only few players have used wizards well in pvp actually and they did good against people with or without gtb. Like Kuoch said wizards are vital for WOE/GvG defense and strategy forming. If you are into it might as we get really geared to play it very well. Trend nowadays are sinx/champs for pvp/woe chars.
Rayray Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 there are some great wizards out there that could kill people even if they have gtb :D
Dragon Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Wizards are pretty versatile, lacking in the hp department but fair really well in alot of situations. Thana stave or Incan/bos stave comes in handy for gtb users and a strip shield is always nice when not everyone runs to get fcp when they see a wizard in pvp. I would like to think I play my Wizard fairly well, but nonetheless, they are lacking some major modifications to really be a top pvp class. Just remember that every class can be great, just takes strategy and fast fingers. (Gotta love the berry spam here.)
Sorrow Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 They just fail miserably at the moment and that's the truth. Must having to rely on the server's most rare card to become a significant threat is, at best, pathetic. They're pretty useful for hunting stuff and leeching, become "descent" support in WoE, but that's about it... If you want to main a powerful all around class, don't invest in wizzards....at least not here.
Zombee Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 They just fail miserably at the moment and that's the truth. Must having to rely on the server's most rare card to become a significant threat is, at best, pathetic. They're pretty useful for hunting stuff and leeching, become "descent" support in WoE, but that's about it... If you want to main a powerful all around class, don't invest in wizzards....at least not here. Descent, really? I think you mean decent.
Ethereal Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) We all make typos and not everybody has great English skills. --- Anyways, I think Sorrow's right. Some wizards have to rely on Thanatos card to become "powerful," using Stave Crasher. Wizards are the fastest leechers (at least in my opinion), and are good stun-lockers in WoE. Since in WoE damage is reduced by 50% or so, wizards aren't as quick in killing as they could be. They're fun to go around in PvP and then spam skills on people though. Edited November 1, 2009 by Ethereal
Sorrow Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 Descent, really? I think you mean decent. PhOkUs Om TeH sHoObJeKcHi PlEsS.
.Sushi. Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 Wizards are pretty versatile, lacking in the hp department but fair really well in alot of situations. Thana stave or Incan/bos stave comes in handy for gtb users and a strip shield is always nice when not everyone runs to get fcp when they see a wizard in pvp. I would like to think I play my Wizard fairly well, but nonetheless, they are lacking some major modifications to really be a top pvp class. Just remember that every class can be great, just takes strategy and fast fingers. (Gotta love the berry spam here.) Yeah dude you're one of those and Josh too damn you!! Though I never have actually dueled sorrow. :(
Adamxd Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 I tried play battle wiz ( i called it battle wiz/ warlock) 195 aspd/strips/ws etc. Its hard to kill and it takes much time but it's only way to pvp with wizz.
.Sushi. Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) I tried play battle wiz ( i called it battle wiz/ warlock) 195 aspd/strips/ws etc. Its hard to kill and it takes much time but it's only way to pvp with wizz. I already tried that too, only fails because like Dragon said they lack hp modfiers. Edited November 1, 2009 by .Sushi.
Dragon Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 They just fail miserably at the moment and that's the truth. Must having to rely on the server's most rare card to become a significant threat is, at best, pathetic. They're pretty useful for hunting stuff and leeching, become "descent" support in WoE, but that's about it... If you want to main a powerful all around class, don't invest in wizzards....at least not here. Rare???? Since when? Have you been around in the oh last year? Besides the fact Thanatos is no longer a rarity on the server, It is not in any way the only way a wizard can become "powerful". Besides the fact that just one Skoll card completely renders thana pretty much useless for a wizard. To answer the question of can a Wizard be good in PvP, yes they can. I should have posted on my other name since my signature on that account shows the hall of fame week that my wizard won third place for the week. P.S. For those that say wizards are nothing but spam, Think of how many things are "spammed" on ALL the other classes.
.Sushi. Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 I tried a Hybrid one, still the only thing that sucks about Wizzies are their lack of HP modifier!!!! If somehow they manage to increase that one surely wizards would be lovable to use in pvp all the time.
Sorrow Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Rare???? Since when? Have you been around in the oh last year? Besides the fact Thanatos is no longer a rarity on the server, It is not in any way the only way a wizard can become "powerful". Besides the fact that just one Skoll card completely renders thana pretty much useless for a wizard. To answer the question of can a Wizard be good in PvP, yes they can. I should have posted on my other name since my signature on that account shows the hall of fame week that my wizard won third place for the week. P.S. For those that say wizards are nothing but spam, Think of how many things are "spammed" on ALL the other classes. Since like...ever? Just compare the number of them available on the server...100? If there are this many...others...over 500 each? So yeah, most rare. Price? Thousands of coupons? While any other don't reach even 100? About the ladder you mentioned; It's the exception, not the rule, sorry. Analyze the facts as a whole please, and compare data. If it was easy&fair, many wizzards would be around participating in the arena and winning with equal chances of others, and that's not what happens, is it? Also the "I did, any other can too" drill sounds to me like bragging, and not a respectable argument. I'm sick of this hypocrisy, magic classes are underated and thrown out because of a single cheap card and you all know that, stop talking as if everything's okay&fair for them. And i don't think spamming is a bad thing XD Everyone does that XP Sushi; yeah their HP sucks big time! XD And you didn't duel me yet cause i don't pvp nor woe :x I just like...hunt monsters, make quests, ignore players in pk zones...
toypupetz Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 It's called to lead by example....meaning if it's been done, it can be done again. I feel the same way as you do about wizards, they are by far my favorite class and have been rendered almost useless due to one highly obtainable card. But there are ways around it only problem on this server is that all those means can be countered with a simple fcp. modifications have been suggested and have all seem to get put into the reject bin even though they were technically excepted by GM's and Mods. I myself have made a few that were given consideration and just tossed aside. It seems wizards will just remain an underappreciated class due to the challenges you face when trying to play as one. As if barely breaking 100k hp isnt bad enough.
Rayray Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Its hard to win using a wizard to be honest, but it is kinda fun. If you got the right equips I can probably say that wizards can get one of the highest damage reduction. But yeah their lack of hp is not funny. and of course their weight limit is also annoying. my wizard can only hold like what, 60-70 yggs. But it is so satisfying to see a weak class becomes a threat when used well.
Sorrow Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 It's called to lead by example....meaning if it's been done, it can be done again. I feel the same way as you do about wizards, they are by far my favorite class and have been rendered almost useless due to one highly obtainable card. But there are ways around it only problem on this server is that all those means can be countered with a simple fcp. modifications have been suggested and have all seem to get put into the reject bin even though they were technically excepted by GM's and Mods. I myself have made a few that were given consideration and just tossed aside. It seems wizards will just remain an underappreciated class due to the challenges you face when trying to play as one. As if barely breaking 100k hp isnt bad enough. Exactly, the problem actually. It's easy to obtain immunity of magic skills and very hard for those who use them to find ways to counter this immunity(because the counter have easy counters Oo). Even I suggested a few things that were looked at with interest but not changed at all. We can just hope to one day get back to the place where magic users deserve here, having utility and fair chances on 1x1. I'm glad though...seems like i'm not the only one who still faves magic classes here <3
Rayray Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 to be honest, it is the only class I dare play in normal servers :p
Adamxd Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) ASK ME FOR DEVO ON PVP AND WE ROCK:P Edited November 2, 2009 by Adamxd
.Sushi. Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) @adam With or without devo gtb+fcp is just a struggle for a wizard to face other class. @topic I was wondering, if the proffessor class is somewhat playable to pvp wise on the magic class aspect how come wizards can't get the same fame I tried a lot of builds on using a wizard gtb is just as whack for any magic user class and it's not a big of a problem at all, if one can switch to strip or stave crasher. the ONE and ONLY problem is the lack of stat modfication as well as the HP one like for example, there would be a specific card for wizard class only that would increase agi/vit/int/dex that doesn't require one to wear mix belts, I don't know if that doesn't sound fair but we probably would love to see a wizard in action and will surely last long in pvp without the use of safety wall. @sorrow Yeah, damnit man, where were you when I needed some farming. </3 Edited November 3, 2009 by .Sushi.
Sorrow Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 @adam With or without devo gtb+fcp is just a struggle for a wizard to face other class. @topic I was wondering, if the proffessor class is somewhat playable to pvp wise on the magic class aspect how come wizards can't get the same fame I tried a lot of builds on using a wizard gtb is just as whack for any magic user class and it's not a big of a problem at all, if one can switch to strip or stave crasher. the ONE and ONLY problem is the lack of stat modfication as well as the HP one like for example, there would be a specific card for wizard class only that would increase agi/vit/int/dex that doesn't require one to wear mix belts, I don't know if that doesn't sound fair but we probably would love to see a wizard in action and will surely last long in pvp without the use of safety wall. @sorrow Yeah, damnit man, where were you when I needed some farming. </3 hnnn...farming? XD Just unfortunate we rarely meet in-game -.- Even priests fair somewhat well in pvp here when compared to wizzards...and professors don't do that well either but i believe Wall of Fog is what gives them a kind of a bigger edge when compared to wizzards, also Professors have a slightly better HP formula, usually they have like 20k HP(median) plus over a wizzard with the same amount of vit, it's still the second lowest Hp formula though.
.Sushi. Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Well, it's the skill variety that sets off prof class from wizards not only WOF and yeah their HP is A LOT better than wizards plus different builds goes well on profs too unlike wizards. But yeah, I just hope they would try something out on the wiz class to improve their HP and other stats.
