fury66 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 does Golden thief bug card work or not in this server please( 100% resist against magical attak) ? because if it works it's a bit unbalanced for magical class.
Cirrus Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Works as intended. There are various ways around it though, not that easy but there are ways for the patient and skilled.
Shayne Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 yes thats true there are various ways around gtb you just need to work things out XD
Sensation Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 This game is meant to be played as a team, of course it will be a great disadvantage for magical classes in 1 vs 1 fights. But ultimately, it would be all about GvG and WoE events, where people gain a truckload of damage from other sources and not wearing GTB, thus making magic classes very appealing if used well. Soon™ changes will be made that should really create a balance between classes and a lot of hot fixes should be made to prevent an excess of high spam-able and abusable skills or rather reduce it. Stay tuned I'd say.
fury66 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 i know the game has been create like that and we can use wyz in all exept 1 vs 1 but why don't you put GTB for magical class like ghostring for asura strike, something like -80~-90% damage. it won't change a lot the pvp and there will be more fun with wyzards and profs...and when a wyz spam JT it's not a problem, take a maya card and you can pawn him if u know how to play.because as i knew, there's no card wich stop arrows, no card wich protect you from sword and spear, no card wich stop bottles thrown on you. there's only a card wich stop magic attaks. Only prof and wyz are disadventaged.
oceanjapan Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 i know the game has been create like that and we can use wyz in all exept 1 vs 1 but why don't you put GTB for magical class like ghostring for asura strike, something like -80~-90% damage. it won't change a lot the pvp and there will be more fun with wyzards and profs...and when a wyz spam JT it's not a problem, take a maya card and you can pawn him if u know how to play.because as i knew, there's no card wich stop arrows, no card wich protect you from sword and spear, no card wich stop bottles thrown on you. there's only a card wich stop magic attaks. Only prof and wyz are disadventaged. Yeah... So, your point is, make cards that stop bottles thrown on you, and card that protect you from sword and spear? xD Well, i agree that it is unfair to magic class, but without gtb, they might be too powerful sometimes, (even with maya...)
fury66 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 Yeah... So, your point is, make cards that stop bottles thrown on you, and card that protect you from sword and spear? xD Well, i agree that it is unfair to magic class, but without gtb, they might be too powerful sometimes, (even with maya...) even with maya yes...(using storm gust). so i have 2 solution : 1.put GTB effet to +90% resist against magic attaks. 2.like another server : GTB give MDEF and you need MDEF equip to complete the buff, that works, in the other server players took mdef equips and magics attaks missed them. let the gms chosse. they can also do nothing but it's a bad solution because there will always be someone to ask for GTB.
oceanjapan Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 mmmm So, wizards listen up. Get thanatos card and do stave crasher xD It hits high enough and GTB cannot nullify that gg well, 90% sounds really good though... I hope it become that way =P
Rayray Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 This has been suggested before and was rejected. GTB stays at is and the GM team will find other ways to balance things out. oh and Profs got a lot of skills to kill sinx trust me. And I see a lot of annoying wizards nowadays. those who SG people then when someone uses GTB they warp. I mean, it is disadvantageous but there are ways around it.( coma for profs, stave crasher for wizards). I saw some guys hit stave crasher like 15-20k at spammable rate which means it isn't impossible.
DeAmascus Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 I had myself brought this up, stating a good argument. It was put as a vote, and got rejected. Trust me, they're not going to do it again. It's been done FAR too many times for them to consider it. And like Sensation said....they're working on balancing it out. It's still worth playing here though, I found ways to get on ladder on my high wiz despite the un-balance. <3
Icon Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Balances are being made. GTB will always annoy someone. If GTB didn't exist people would just use the MDEF build so all magic would do 1 damage. Either way magic classes will have to L2Play. GTB will always be there because my HW and the coma builds will rule if it's ever taken away or nerfed. (I fought very hard to keep GTB since this is one of the few servers that still has it at it's original effect.) Incantation Samurai with Stave Crasher works best, add some other damage cards or the custom cards that increase SC damage. (1k-30k depending on the opponents gear) Thanatos with Stave Crasher only works on people who aren't expecting it. If they know you have it they'll switch to our custom anti-Thana card. (1k-130k depending on the opponents gear) There's some good melee mix builds but even with a good build we're still short on HP, which is one of the things being worked on. (1k-9k melee damage with staff as a weapon .. again, depending on the opponents gear) Just remember .... anyone that wields a 2-handed weapon is your main target for magic ... Safety Wall + RSX + FCP can be your best friend .. just make sure you have good aim with SW ... if someone is weak to magic but not weak enough try to use Stone Curse or Freeze and cast a spell that will affect them more ... custom card that strips shield is very handy as are weapon/armor breaking cards/gears ... and ... surprise attacks and randoming people worx good too :) Now, I'm not saying anyone can get around it but it is possible. ...... wonder how long this will stay open?
Rayray Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 i wonder at that too. And man stone curse is fucking annoying -_-
fury66 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 ok so let close this topic because i've my anser.there's GTB full effect but there's posibilities to attak even if the enemies have it.
