Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I suggest that you should make a command where people can shut off their pk status. like @nopk, so that new players can do their work properly without disturbance. But this command can only be activated when you are at the towns. But It should have a time to use it again. Example : After you logged in then you type the command which will turn off your pk status and suddenly you realized that you want to on your pk status, you can use that. But if you wished to turn it off again, their should be a time limit to use it again, like 15 mins. or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Notq. This is a PK server and people should be aware before they join it's a PK server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrist Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 We all tried to not get get player-killed. We all tried to get better. We all tried to get stronger. Why should others be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Why, can't you wait before they become stronger like you people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 If newer players had the option to turn off PK they'd do it all the time. They wouldn't fit in with the server, they wouldn't bother learning to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Do you think if those new players can fight back at you, do you think they will turn off their pk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Keywords: new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Kevin* Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Think that even full geared people flee when they see someone the cant beat .. like me /ok :P . So its not only about newbies or nubs or whatelse . Be a man , or if you are a girl be brave and try to fight back / resist and if you really cant do anything , change spot : End of the story . Whining about it will never get you anything ^^ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 This kind of discussion never really ends right? It is a PK server. And some people just like killing. um waiting for them to become stronger? how can they become stronger if they don't know how to fight in the first place? We all started like new players, we all experienced that, it is just that we got tired of being killed when we are new players so we did something. hunt items to sell, buy gears, hunt mvp cards, get stronger. That's it. oh and there will be someone who would say "You donated to be strong and I can't donate", which will be wrong of course since I have never Donated(since I can't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Yeah, exactly. This was my first main server and I knew literally nothing about RO in general but PKing and learning to fight taught me about cards, weapons, skills, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Yeah. This is only my suggestion. and I'm not like you guys, I don't run away from people who I can't beat. I have my pride, even if this is only a game. This suggestion is not for me, I'm just trying to help those new players who are keep on posting like they have been killed before they kill the MVP(s) that they are fighting. I know this is a PK server and even though I just started playing here like a week or 5 days ago. Before I play this server I know what will I do. I'm just caring for those newbies sake. Ragnarok is not just about PKing or PVPing. We'll sorry If I got in your way guys, I know that you don't care but, in the server that I played (before this server) people their are helping each other. And I'm kinda' used to what they are doing. Again this is only a suggestion, you can always reject it if you want. /heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrus Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I disagree with this suggestion. From the start I didn't even know about "PK servers," honestly I was surprised you couldn't PK in other servers. I thought that PK was normal. Lol. And it's explicitly stated that this server is a PK server and that should be enough information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I do help others. I made a guild just to help them, most of my members are newbies last week. now most of them are finishing their elite quests and some of them can fight now. oh and MVPs are free for all unless you summoned it. and there is a fine line between helping and making them too dependent on you. And removing PK is not the answer for them. and it gets pretty boring if the only time you can kill is in PVP room, which is most of the time empty nowadays... getting killed when MVPing? go to a private map, bring a prof and summon an MVP then kill it. and I met many newbie players, and they don't seem to be to concerned on the PK, I don't know why you are. oh and about your pride. you can flame me if you want but fighting in something you have absolutely no chance of winning is a little stupid. what is the worth of fighting a losing battle? I am not saying you run, I am saying you pick your own battles. it means go back a few steps for now, then come back when you are stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 oh and about your pride. you can flame me if you want but fighting in something you have absolutely no chance of winning is a little stupid. what is the worth of fighting a losing battle? I am not saying you run, I am saying you pick your own battles. it means go back a few steps for now, then come back when you are stronger. I didn't say that I'm fighting with no chance at my hands. I just said that I'm not running from people that I can't beat. I didn't say that I'm fighiting with them. And until now I'm not into PVPing with others because I know from myself that I'm lacking equips to be able to fight with them. I'm just want to help people and there is a fine line between helping and making them too dependent on you. And removing PK is not the answer for them. and it gets pretty boring if the only time you can kill is in PVP room, which is most of the time empty nowadays... I didn't say anything about removing the PK itself, I just suggest that there should be a command that can "DISABLE" your PK. and afterwards, If you know that you can fight the people that you want to fight with, then go, don't use the command. You can always do that. And what is the logic of killing people who are weaker than you? I can't even answer myself why do you need to kill people who are weaker than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 because you can kill them. disable pk will be abused not by the new guys but by the veterans. they will turn it on when they are about to die and that could ruin the gameplay. And what you said in the last post doesn't make sense. you are not running from them but you are not fighting them? What are you doing, raising a white flag or something? If you want to help others, help yourself first. You admitted you don't have enough gears right? Why not go get better gears then kill those who PK too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 because you can kill them. disable pk will be abused not by the new guys but by the veterans. they will turn it on when they are about to die and that could ruin the gameplay. That's why I said that it can only be activated when your in town. And what you said in the last post doesn't make sense. you are not running from them but you are not fighting them? What are you doing, raising a white flag or something? If you want to help others, help yourself first. -- Didn't you understand? "And until now I'm not into PVPing with others" You admitted you don't have enough gears right? Why not go get better gears then kill those who PK too much? --That's what I'm doing right now, hunting quest items then sell, kill MVPs, I'm doing everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 this turning into a flame thread wow. This might close before we know it. anyway yeah I would still hate that if they can only turn it in town. example someone killed you, now you know you can kill him then he went back to town and turned pk off. that would've pissed me off so much. I still don't understand the first statement. You didn't explain what you mean in the first sentence. I know you don't PVP anymore, or you would've never put this suggestion. so you are doing everything you can? good for you. Then why put up the suggestion? Don't tell me it is for the new guys, for some reason I don't buy that. I talked to many newbies and none of them got any problem with PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 this turning into a flame thread wow. This might close before we know it. anyway --- we'll it's part of suggesting :-D yeah I would still hate that if they can only turn it in town. example someone killed you, now you know you can kill him then he went back to town and turned pk off. that would've pissed me off so much. - only people that are scared to be pawned will do that. People who are dueling you will not do that, except if your just PKing. I still don't understand the first statement. You didn't explain what you mean in the first sentence. I know you don't PVP anymore, or you would've never put this suggestion. -- I said that I'm not still PVPing with others, the last player that I have dueled with is with -=lago=- . And he totally pawned me, that's why I'm doing my best to hunt my "picked" gears. so you are doing everything you can? good for you. Then why put up the suggestion? Don't tell me it is for the new guys, for some reason I don't buy that. I talked to many newbies and none of them got any problem with PK. -- maybe because this are not their first time playing on a PK server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Kevin* Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Pk wont be removed , commands to disable it wont be implemented , pkers will exist till the end of the world , accept it , no need to discuss further about this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Guys, let's not flame, discuss this as equals. Please. This command could cause a few problems: Players won't adapt to fRO: Newer players starting out won't beable to adjust to the PvP system if they can easily turn it off. If they can't adjust to PK here then they will NOT enjoy it here, without a doubt! MvPing: When you're hitting MvPs and a random person comes along and starts doing the same natural instinct tells you to fight that person off, no? With this command that's something you wouldn't beable to do... It's not going to help newer players either because there's a good chance the person who came along will hit more damage on the MvP. Annoyance: Take for instance some person just killed you so you use the command to turn off PvP and warp back to the person who killed you, you then annoy them by persistant use of ygg leaves, using sight, even flaming that person. These are all possible to happen and probably will. Ontop of that you're wrong when you say fRO isn't a helpful community, just because the majority dislike your suggestion doesn't mean we're not 'helpful'. There's many people and guilds out there willing to help you if you get killed, help give you items, and help show you the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*God Of War*~ Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 sorreee to say but leniz winns again /gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 EXPENSIVE GEAR != BEING GOOD AT PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Guys, let's not flame, discuss this as equals. Please. This command could cause a few problems: Players won't adapt to fRO: Newer players starting out won't beable to adjust to the PvP system if they can easily turn it off. If they can't adjust to PK here then they will NOT enjoy it here, without a doubt! MvPing: When you're hitting MvPs and a random person comes along and starts doing the same natural instinct tells you to fight that person off, no? With this command that's something you wouldn't beable to do... It's not going to help newer players either because there's a good chance the person who came along will hit more damage on the MvP. Annoyance: Take for instance some person just killed you so you use the command to turn off PvP and warp back to the person who killed you, you then annoy them by persistant use of ygg leaves, using sight, even flaming that person. We'll It's okay now, just reject the suggestion. These are all possible to happen and probably will. Ontop of that you're wrong when you say fRO isn't a helpful community, just because the majority dislike your suggestion doesn't mean we're not 'helpful'. There's many people and guilds out there willing to help you if you get killed, help give you items, and help show you the basics. but, regarding this, I didn't say that your community is not helpful, actually, some of them helped me in my questions about this server. I just said that I'm kinda' used to the other server's community, well, I'm new here, aren't I?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
» Pat Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 EXPENSIVE GEAR != BEING GOOD AT PVP 85% of the people reading this didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedric Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 It's just mean that the custom items hear are the strongest gear here. We'll what about my other suggestion regarding the storage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
