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Well in my honest opinion, it has got to be rather difficult to come up with ways to balance out a class that rely's solely on magic when GTB is highly available on the server. And we all already know that GTB is here to stay. So making a balance for wiz has got to be mind boggling. Thus why we make threads like this to help him out and make his life a little easier. (I hope.)

Yeah a sprite for it would be ridiculous. Just the added effect would be nice. :P

Well I didn't intend for it to be a WoE only Idea. Just added that since its the best place for a wizzy to get kills other than a random run into pvp. Get one kill, then everyone is ready for you next time you come in. So to clarify my statement, I would like to see this as a all around use. Preferably a card that endows a 9x9 cell of water around the caster at all times or something to that effect.

Yes I still like my original idea best, but I added the alternative incase it gets declared to be too overpowered. It can be toned down in increments to find a suitable usage. But I still feel if we get it, it can't be "overpowered" since all you have to do is use GTB or Maya to kill the caster since his hp is far less than yours.

Bump :blink: Anybody else have any Idea's or dislikes about this?

One more added option that may make some people a little happier. Not 100% certain on the amounts(Too lazy to look right now.) But waterball is most effective in I believe a 9x9 Cell of water. The more water the more power. Sooooooo Lets make it a 7x7 or something to that effect If we go with something that will allow you to have a X x X cell of water around you at all times.

Ok, just to ask, Does my presence in the early floors of the castle already force players to use a GTB? And doing so, the few champs that hang out in the same area take full advantage of this. So basically I can actually kill you with a waterball that has some power behind it or I can slow you down long enough with Heavens Drive and JT while the champs take care of you. OR you can use your GTB to get by me in which case you'd still get Wooped as you say if a champ gets a hold of you. So basically stating, me using my wiz in WoE creates the scenario of forcing people to wear GTB, How does me having access to Waterball make it any different? JT is just as good, yet it isnt as spammable as Waterball. And on a second note, Even if we get waterball how many wizards do you really think there will be out there? 200 vit and 2 vit belts and barely break 120k hp? Still a super easy target for every class in the game. And CombatMuffins your opinion has been noted and appreciated, lets keep this civil and argue like men not children. Edit**To Ryoji: reason for waterball in particular is because Mage is my favorite class. I've already asked for a hp mod and other suggestions have been made for coma/w/e it was. My reason for Waterball is because its a very effective mage skill and like I stated before, i rack up 40-75 kills in WoE just because of people either not having or not wearing GTB. Problem I have with this is JT doesnt have as good of a damage output as waterball does and high vit classes like LK and Paladin can take my skills and barely have to use berry's to stay alive. Second reason being Neither castle has a water area for my ability to do it, and getting a professor to actually "SPAM" Deluge just isnt happening(I've tried to get em to do it but they would rather use web/doublecast/firebolt. and I dont blame them, I want kills to.)

Wow. I lack common sense because you carry a gtb, I use primarily magic attacks, and want access to a more powerful magic attack so the few people that I do catch without their gtb on I stand a better chance of killing. As far as "It'll make woe more of a pain in the ass" Me standing at the entrance with two Asura champs gets the job done and I dont even have access to Waterball yet. Having waterball wont make much of a difference since the majority of you wear GTB to get passed me when I SG and MS spam. So anyway, Anyone have any usefull feedback that isnt full of bitching or moaning? Don't like the idea, Tell us about it. Just leave the pointless bitching out of it. I'm still for this idea and dont understand why people wanna cry about it. Atleast I didnt say lets Nerf GTB, I'm magic and I cant do shit without having it removed. HAHAHAHAHA I actually rack up 45-70 kills per WoE and GTB has its full effect. So I say again, leave GTB as is just give me access to my more powerful skills.

Wow. And you call me the idiot.

Are you serious? Where do you see a complaint about gtb or maya. This thread has nothing to do with either. Instead of bitching moaning and groaning, Understand the thread and leave senseless bullshit out of it. I'm merely asking for the chance to use waterball as a wizard without the catalyst of water. AND I even added the sub-title, Has nothing to do with GTB to keep people from Flaming from the start about how we arent gonna mess with GTB. Good, I'm glad. Leave GTB as is. Just help us to improve our arsenal as has been done with other classes in ways of mods and custom cards.

That would be awesome for any other int based class such as Creator or Priest but for wizzy it wouldnt help much. Problem being it has a chance to cast on attack. I would assume this is a melee probabilty. Being a wiz I dont melee and I doubt many would. (Our extremely low hp makes melee a suicide.) But As I first stated, this would be an awesome item for a Creator or a Priest.

That would be fine since my wiz isnt built for surviving Asura and if you get close enough to me to melee because of your GTB, I'm gonna die anyway.(Coma or not.) Asura champs is why I always carry my double OL and Valk Manteau.

Compounded to shield would be fine with me. I'll just carry an extra shield around with me. :thumbsup_anim:

Thus my point. No upperhand advantage would make it not a "Overpowered" thing. Just one I would enjoy very much. :suicide_anim:

Glad to see you back Holy. Long time no see. Anyway, keep giving em hell. ^^

-50%hp lmao I have 78k without tao, and like 93k with. 50% would make me a one hit target.

Well from the past few WoE's I've been in. Everyone that wanted to get passed me had to use a GTB. And the few that killed me had to rely on their GTB to do so. With the exception of Zeitgeist. I still want that rematch. Perhaps after this gets some attention. ^^ Anyway. I would still like to see a change, or a possible card compounded to footgear. lol.

Agreed.

Exactly. I'd like to see the water catalyst removed so that I could run into pvp and maybe get off a few kills without hoping that a deluge or ninja's water skill is active. Or Use it in WoE away from the emp room where I can actually get some action.

Waterball. Very effective skill but no water in our castles to use it. And getting a professor to spam deluge for you is rare. Can we remove the requirement of water to use a full powered waterball?

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Just to add my two cents. It is the way it is. Quit asking for changes as this will only lead to something else you want changed. Or if not "YOU" somebody else will make yet another thread like this asking for a new nerf resulting from fcp not lasting long enough.